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I wanted to cry...
Posted by smeagol the vile on Monday, June 20, 2011 3:29 AM

I was at the flea market today as I always am on Sunday mornings..  I am always on the look out for model kits, especially rare or odd ones.  So far I have found 2 of the 4 that I have really been after, those 4 being.  The Mach 5 from speed racer, The Mystery Machine from scooby doo, The Delorian from Back to the future, and the Ecto 1 from Ghost busters. 

I was walking, looking around, mostly of the kits I see are NASCAR kits, which are wholly uninteresting to me.  Under a pile of them I see the Deloean back to the future kit.  I do a 180 and make a B line for the table.  Grab the box and open it to look... it was started... not to bad, nothing but some parts snapped on where snapping could be done, but it was all open and parts were laying everywhere to the point that I couldn't trust it without sitting there for a good half hour and counting every single part two or three times to make sure.  It was just such a disappointment, one of my 4 grail kits (as far as cars go).

 

Yes, I can get the polar lights ones on ebay, but its a minimum of 15$ and its not the same as getting them for 5$ at the flea market like I did 2 polar lights planet of the apes kits today (5 each)

 

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Posted by SuppressionFire on Monday, June 20, 2011 5:27 AM

Never did understand the appeal of NASCAR...

'Look Bubba they are turning left!'

I guess you got a bad vibe from the Deloean model. Understandable as its buyer beware on partially started kits.Automobile

The 'Mystery Machine' has been reissued, I am sure the price is not too high.

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Monday, June 20, 2011 9:32 AM

So you wanted a complete kit for 5 bucks and passed because it might have been a few parts? If the instruction sheet was still there, it would have been easy to do a parts inventory..

Otherwise youi don't know if you were right or not.. You may have just set your Grail Kit right back on the pile.. 

Plus, you may have been able to scratch-build any missing parts, or substituted others from say, one of the NASCAR kits...

Also, there's a chance that you'd come across a parts-kit later on down the road... Or use that kit for a parts-kit.. Can't build up your spares box if you don't have spare parts..

When you buy a kit that's been outta the box, you gotta THINK outside the box...

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Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Monday, June 20, 2011 9:41 AM

If the kit is cheap enough, it can be used for parts or, as Hans stated, missing parts can be scratch-built

Kits are sold every day on e-bay, in flea markets , garage sales, etc., etc.

Eventually you'll find a complete kit.

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Posted by HisNHer Tanks on Monday, June 20, 2011 10:21 AM

Geeez ya that poor?

I'd have dropped the 5er if it seemed reasonable condition and it meant so much.

All 4 of my Tamiya 1/350th kits were found at train shows of all places. Never paid more than 50 bucks for them. Granted these were unopened, but the point it, you need to be ready to use those moments.

Liberated a 48th scale Lanc from a trainshow as well. It was easy to get some parts clean up by simply scoring some spare parts from Borgfeldt.

Nothing ventured nothing gained eh.

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Posted by smeagol the vile on Monday, June 20, 2011 3:25 PM

Actually, I am that poor.  The job market is horrible right now, I went to said flea market with 17$ to spend.  The kit wasn't 5$ it was marked 10$ as well. 

Also hans, it wasn't parts from the normal car that may have been missing, but parts from the time machine parts, the little fidley bits that would be really hard to replicate that would have been missing.  Plus, didnt really have a half hour to sit there going through every part 2 or 3 times to make sure it was there.

People are the flea markets with kits are dishonest at best.  I have had them reseal kits with missing parts.  reseal the bags INSIDE of the boxes with missing parts, put pieces to differnt kits together in a box to make it seem like its all one kit. 

Then there are the people taht have no idea of value, had one lady ask 5$ for a figure kit that goes for 3.50$ online

 

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Posted by tigerman on Monday, June 20, 2011 10:04 PM

smeagol the vile

Actually, I am that poor.  The job market is horrible right now, I went to said flea market with 17$ to spend.  The kit wasn't 5$ it was marked 10$ as well. 

Also hans, it wasn't parts from the normal car that may have been missing, but parts from the time machine parts, the little fidley bits that would be really hard to replicate that would have been missing.  Plus, didnt really have a half hour to sit there going through every part 2 or 3 times to make sure it was there.

People are the flea markets with kits are dishonest at best.  I have had them reseal kits with missing parts.  reseal the bags INSIDE of the boxes with missing parts, put pieces to differnt kits together in a box to make it seem like its all one kit. 

Then there are the people taht have no idea of value, had one lady ask 5$ for a figure kit that goes for 3.50$ online

Not trying to be an ***, but you're American right? It's $10 not 10$. Sorry, but it bugs me a bit. Wink

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, June 20, 2011 10:13 PM

smeagol the vile

Actually, I am that poor.  The job market is horrible right now, I went to said flea market with 17$ to spend.  The kit wasn't 5$ it was marked 10$ as well. 

Also hans, it wasn't parts from the normal car that may have been missing, but parts from the time machine parts, the little fidley bits that would be really hard to replicate that would have been missing.  Plus, didnt really have a half hour to sit there going through every part 2 or 3 times to make sure it was there.

People are the flea markets with kits are dishonest at best.  I have had them reseal kits with missing parts.  reseal the bags INSIDE of the boxes with missing parts, put pieces to differnt kits together in a box to make it seem like its all one kit. 

Then there are the people taht have no idea of value, had one lady ask 5$ for a figure kit that goes for 3.50$ online

Well if you didn't have half-an-hour to check out your "Holy Grail" kit-find, and you had cash in hand to get it,  I question how much of a "Holy Grail" to you it really was...

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Posted by bbrowniii on Monday, June 20, 2011 10:27 PM

tigerman

Not trying to be an ***, but you're American right? It's $10 not 10$. Sorry, but it bugs me a bit. Wink

Thank you, Tigerman!

By the way, its a DeLoRean, not a DeLoean...

'All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing' - Edmund Burke (1770 ??)

 

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Posted by smeagol the vile on Monday, June 20, 2011 11:11 PM

Ah, I didn't realize I was posting to have the placement of my symbols and the spelling of my car names commented on.  I didn't get the spelling right because the in forum spell checker didn't know either.  And ya know, im tired of a select few of you being well.. complete ***holes to me on the majority of the treads I start, you can go to hell for all I care.

 

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Posted by bbrowniii on Monday, June 20, 2011 11:29 PM

smeagol the vile

I didn't get the spelling right because the in forum spell checker didn't know either. 

WOW...Confused 

But you are right, Smeagol. We shouldn't be bustin' yer chops over such trivial stuff as grammar and spelling.

So, about that model - I gotta tell ya, if it was one of my 'holy grail' kits, I'da snagged it, even with a chance that it was missing parts. Maybe that kit isn't as important to you as you think it is?

'All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing' - Edmund Burke (1770 ??)

 

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Posted by subfixer on Tuesday, June 21, 2011 3:43 AM

bbrowniii

 tigerman:

Not trying to be an ***, but you're American right? It's $10 not 10$. Sorry, but it bugs me a bit. Wink

 

Thank you, Tigerman!

By the way, its a DeLoRean, not a DeLoean...

It's DeLoreann, not DeLoRean!  Geeked

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Posted by Real G on Tuesday, June 21, 2011 4:23 AM

Uh guys, for the record, it's DeLorean.

It was a Holy Grail car for me too, but the real one.  I have never experienced  "love at first sight" with any machine, except with this car.  It sounds funny and stupid, but when I laid eyes on a DeLorean cruising up the street back in 1982 (yes before the movie) I felt like I was staring at the most beautiful girl in the world!  Being that I was in high school with only a paper route for spending money, a $25,000 car (well $18,000 if you could haggle effectively) was way out of my league.  I went through college dreaming of getting one, but the longer I waited, the more unrealistic the dream became.  I almost had a chance to drive one at a car dealership that was trying to unload it, but guess what, the car wouldn't start!  Just like in the movie.  We couldn't get to the battery because the front hood release handle was torn out!  Recently I noticed that someone is selling DeLoreans that have been built on a new stainless steel chassis with a combination of original stock and rebuilt parts, but the asking price is now something like $57,000.  I have no illusions about what the car is and what it can and cannot do, but sigh...  Becoming older has taught me that some things are not meant to be, and the mature thing is to let it go.  So that's why I build sci-fi models instead!  Cool

Smeagol, sorry to invade your thread, but I had to share.  Is everyone asleep, or on another thread yet?  Good.  Shoot me a conversation, and I might be able to help you "live the dream."

 

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Posted by bbrowniii on Tuesday, June 21, 2011 9:42 AM

subfixer

It's DeLoreann, not DeLoRean!  Geeked

Uhh, no, it's not.

D-e-L-o-r-e-a-n, Delorean.

 

'All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing' - Edmund Burke (1770 ??)

 

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Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Tuesday, June 21, 2011 4:55 PM

bbrowniii

 

 subfixer:

 

It's DeLoreann, not DeLoRean!  Geeked

 

 

Uhh, no, it's not.

D-e-L-o-r-e-a-n, Delorean.

bbrowniii

Are you a Wheel of Fortune fan?

( just wondering  Embarrassed)

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Posted by bbrowniii on Tuesday, June 21, 2011 6:28 PM

Absolutely! Big Smile

'All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing' - Edmund Burke (1770 ??)

 

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, June 21, 2011 6:32 PM

I'd like to buy a vowel, please...

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Posted by the doog on Tuesday, June 21, 2011 8:31 PM

If you won't pay a measly 15 bucks for it, you don't want it that bad.

BTW, I built the Mystery Machine for Jenn last year.

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, June 21, 2011 8:38 PM

the doog

BTW, I built the Mystery Machine for Jenn last year.

What is the Mystery Machine???Hmm

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Posted by fermis on Tuesday, June 21, 2011 8:44 PM

Manstein's revenge

 the doog:

BTW, I built the Mystery Machine for Jenn last year.

 

What is the Mystery Machine???Hmm

Scooby-dooby-doo!!!!!

I got one of them rollin around the stash somewhere.......my daughter wasn't interested.

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The bullying has got to stop
Posted by Aaron Skinner on Thursday, June 23, 2011 9:03 AM

Gents,

None of us knows everything about everyone else's circumstances on these Forum. Let's lighten up on the snide remarks and personal criticisms. This kind of covert bullying has become an increasing problem and concern on the Forums. I find the pile-on effect particularly troubling. As soon as one member says something sideways to another then the cliques rear their ugly heads and it's katy bar the door. I'm tired of it and it is starting to affect the quality of the Forum experience, not only for the people involved, but for other members who come here looking for a shared experience with fellow modelers, only to discover insults and personal attacks. As our quidelines and etiquette state: "Remember the human." There is a person at the other end of the computer and they may not get that you are kidding or may not appreciate your humor even if they do get it. Online communication is not the same as face-to-face and it's easy to be misunderstood. The anonymity of the keyboard also allows posters to say things to others that they probably wouldn't say face-to-face. Think about what you are posting and how it may be interpreted by others.

Let this be a warning to everyone. It stops here. From this point on bullies will receive one warning. Any subsequent offenses will result in account suspension.

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Posted by Hogzilla on Thursday, June 23, 2011 1:24 PM

Thanks Aaron! I have to raise my BS deflectors to maximum power to read some of what is posted on your FSM forum. As I have not seen any apologies made to smeagol I predict this will not be your last warning about  the topic of bulling.  -  Danny

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Posted by bbrowniii on Thursday, June 23, 2011 6:37 PM

Hogzilla

 As I have not seen any apologies made to smeagol

Well, allow me to be the first:

Smeagol, I've been bustin' on you pretty hard recently. I took it too far. I apologize.

'All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing' - Edmund Burke (1770 ??)

 

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Posted by smeagol the vile on Thursday, June 23, 2011 10:39 PM

Thank you Aaron, first off, I appreciate that.  I have run into it a few times myself and have seen it happen to a few people.

 

Brown, I accept your apology.

 

to Karl and Hans.  I dont know how much time you guys spend at the flea market (this is not a criticism) but the kits you find there if they are started you are going to really REALLY have to go over them with a fine tooth come to the point where it becomes an extension of building it (and a not fun part).

I would have had to make sure that not only every part was in there but that the person didn't glue anything together wrong, or didn't mess any parts up sanding/filing, or droped glue on it, didnt just pull a part off the sprue and tear the part as opposed to nipping it off and cleaning off the stub.

At the flea market you dont know who has owned the kit previously and if it has been opened and started there are A LOT of 'what ifs' when it comes to those kits, I have purchased a few and for the most part I regret them, the only two I dont were a Triceratops kit which I need to strip and redo and the Mystery Machine which I almost regretted untill I found one of the piece lodged inside one of the rubber wheels.

I bought one, the guy had opened it, took the back part of the building out, and resealed the bag then put it in the box!  Can you believe that?!

As much as I want that kit it wasn't worth that much work.  I CAN get it on ebay if I want, but it is also the thrill of the hunt.  There is some fun of finding this rare kit that I really want hidden under a pile of stuff on someone's table of junk and to get it for 5$  Buying them online is not the same.  I am sure some of you understand that.

Karl, do you have a picture of that Mystery Machine?  Was it the one that came with Scooby and Shaggy pre-painted or were they kits?  Alot of the ones online, actually, 90% of them havem as figures, the one I found had them as kits.

 

I have made some amazing buys at the flea market, a PC game pad I am still using from some old guy for a dollar who had no idea what it was, literally, he asked me what it was when I bought it.  Sunday I got a Bob McKenzie Action figure to go with my Doug one (from McFairland toys) for 3$.  I found a 60$ limited edition spiderman and green goblin two in one kit for 15$.  I have found... so many, seriously, so many reference books for such a MINIMAL cost it is amazing.  One guy has a table 'all books 1 dollar' found so many references its nuts.  Its about the hunt man

 

 

Edit:  Fermis, your daughter wasn't interested in Scooby doo?!  What is she, a communist?!  How do you not like Scooby?

 

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Posted by fermis on Friday, June 24, 2011 5:18 PM

smeagol the vile

 

 

Edit:  Fermis, your daughter wasn't interested in Scooby doo?!  What is she, a communist?!  How do you not like Scooby?

 

 It was more a case of not being into building the model. Who on earth coulndn't dig Scooby?

 She'll give me a run for my money on the target range though, she's a he!! of a shot!

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Posted by Bgrigg on Friday, June 24, 2011 5:34 PM

How is asking if somone's daughter is a communist based on whether or not she like Scooby-Doo, not a personal attack? Hmm

I like Scooby-Doo, but Scrappy-Doo needed to be run through a meat grinder!

So long folks!

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Posted by fermis on Friday, June 24, 2011 5:53 PM

 Because it was not percieved that wayWink

 

Bgrigg

.... Scrappy-Doo needed to be run through a meat grinder!

Ditto

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Posted by Bgrigg on Friday, June 24, 2011 6:14 PM

Yes, Fermis. I know. Perception is a funny thing, eh?

So long folks!

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Posted by fermis on Friday, June 24, 2011 6:41 PM

Yes, yes it is!

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