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tips for painting sherman underwater?

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tips for painting sherman underwater?
Posted by chucky17 on Tuesday, June 21, 2011 5:21 PM

Hi im going to make a diorama with a sherman underwater. But if its been there

it would have barnacles,etc on it. But i wanted to know what texture to put on the sherman

could anyone recomend any products

 

thanks

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Posted by TD4438 on Tuesday, June 21, 2011 6:01 PM

You can lay Tamiya weathering powders on pretty thick for a bit of texture,then clearcoat them for a durable finish.They have two different rust colors.

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Posted by TomZ2 on Tuesday, June 21, 2011 6:11 PM

You wanted to know what texture to put on the sherman? Try that sexy new one, "marine growth". Examples:

BLUB, bud!

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Posted by spadx111 on Tuesday, June 21, 2011 6:54 PM

i guess that would keep the overspray down.

Ron

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Posted by Bgrigg on Tuesday, June 21, 2011 7:13 PM

Don't use water based paint!

So long folks!

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Posted by chucky17 on Tuesday, June 21, 2011 9:05 PM

guys, only serious suggestions.

no BULLS***

 

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Posted by TomZ2 on Tuesday, June 21, 2011 11:23 PM

chucky17

guys, only serious suggestions.

no BULLS***

And why should THIS thread be any different from any other in this playpen?

    Skepticism, like chastity, should not be relinquished too readily.
        George Santayana, as quoted in Quotations for Our Time

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Posted by Bgrigg on Wednesday, June 22, 2011 12:55 AM

chucky17

guys, only serious suggestions.

no BULLS***

 

Gee, I am SO sorry that I have a sense of humor. I keep forgetting that far too many people don't have one for themselves. I know which side of the ledger you go on, now. Good luck with your Sherman dio. There are certainly enough of them at the bottom of the oceans.

So long folks!

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Posted by subfixer on Wednesday, June 22, 2011 4:12 AM

I would use SCUBA, but if you are shallow enough, a snorkel might work.

I'm from the government and I'm here to help.

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Posted by SuppressionFire on Wednesday, June 22, 2011 6:54 AM

The pictures posted are obviously WWII vintage tanks, looking closer at the quality & color I would say very recent photographs. That would date the wrecks at 70-80 years underwater.

Rust then after a few weeks marine life would find homes on the sunken tank. The best reference photographs would be the lower hulls of dry docked ships. This should help with the color & texture you need, also help choose how deep you want to take the project.

A very fresh sunken tank could have air & oil escaping, say one of the unfortunate duplex drive Normandy invasion tanks, possibly a crew member or two swimming above it?

Should make a unique vignette. Post some pictures when you get going!

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y211/razordws/GB%20Badges/WMIIIGBsmall.jpg

 

 

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Posted by TomZ2 on Wednesday, June 22, 2011 10:39 AM

SuppressionFire

A very fresh sunken tank could have air & oil escaping, say one of the unfortunate duplex drive Normandy invasion tanks, possibly a crew member or two swimming above it?

And that’s exactly why those unfortunates I posted weren’t DD. Overused. There are plenty of other fish (tanks) in the sea. There was a documentary, something akin to "Normandy -- what went wrong", that dived on the remaining sunken DDs off Omaha Beach. Yeah, they’re still there. Who’s going to move them? Makes a nice paperweight.  

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Posted by chucky17 on Wednesday, June 22, 2011 4:03 PM

thanks for the help mate. Ive thought of maybe to sprinkle sand on the tank and also other scenic items before i paint and weather it up.

 

thanks again

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Posted by the doog on Wednesday, June 22, 2011 6:53 PM

agentg

You know, if anyone ever criticizes the Finescale forums, take a look at this link---this was posted on April 20th; it is a masterful, stupendous example of pure Art, and he got 17 lousy replies! Sheesh!

Not only that, but no explanation whatsoever of his techniques or methods. FINESCALE MODELER FORUM RULES! Personally, I think he missed the amount of rusting it should have had on the surface, but I may be wrong; if he got it from a photo,, then he may have been dead-on?

Ok--now to address the post; I think you have to address and consider what you're going to use for water--is it going to be transparent? Translucent? Colored? How much should you tailor the finish to either compliment the material?

Celluclay would be the perfect material for sculpting barnacles, or even just random growths. Also, you could simply layer the sides with putty and rough it up before it cures to simulate sea growth or rampant rust decay.

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Posted by SuppressionFire on Wednesday, June 22, 2011 7:14 PM

the doog

 

 agentg:

You know, if anyone ever criticizes the Finescale forums, take a look at this link---this was posted on April 20th; it is a masterful, stupendous example of pure Art, and he got 17 lousy replies! Sheesh!

Not only that, but no explanation whatsoever of his techniques or methods. FINESCALE MODELER FORUM RULES! Personally, I think he missed the amount of rusting it should have had on the surface, but I may be wrong; if he got it from a photo,, then he may have been dead-on?

He was dead on. One of the best models I have viewed in a long time, if not ever!

Duplex Drives?

Just make sure none are Canadian units, it seems most of ours made it to shore...Hmm

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y211/razordws/GB%20Badges/WMIIIGBsmall.jpg

 

 

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Posted by TomZ2 on Wednesday, June 22, 2011 7:16 PM

agentg

Thats one way to shut up those who would doubt the realism of the modelers subject!

    Skepticism, like chastity, should not be relinquished too readily.
        George Santayana, as quoted in Quotations for Our Time

Addendum: I’d say Peter “pepe” Horvath nailed the about of seaweed on that particular sandy Saipan beach. Dang fine work!

Tags: seaweed

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Posted by Bgrigg on Wednesday, June 22, 2011 7:32 PM

the doog

 

 

Personally, I think he missed the amount of rusting it should have had on the surface, but I may be wrong; if he got it from a photo,, then he may have been dead-on?

Look at the fourth image, he has put real photos of the tank around the base. You can clearly see that the top has lots of marine growth, but the dio model does not. I bet that seaweed would be REALLY hard to do, and I can understand why he didn't try to duplicate it. It is a spectacular diorama, in any case. Only 17 replies? That's pathetic! I feel like joining just to make it 18!

So long folks!

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Posted by TomZ2 on Thursday, June 23, 2011 1:32 AM

TomZ2

 

 agentg:

 

Thats one way to shut up those who would doubt the realism of the modelers subject!

    Skepticism, like chastity, should not be relinquished too readily.
        George Santayana, as quoted in Quotations for Our Time

Addendum: I’d say Peter “pepe” Horvath nailed the amount of seaweed on that particular sandy Saipan beach. Dang fine work! Bow Down

Theres a technical glitch in the copy of this post that has the typo “about” for amount. The FSM edit function doesnt seem to know what to do with itself.

Tags: seaweed

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Posted by Tojo72 on Thursday, June 23, 2011 5:55 AM

the doog

 agentg:

Check this out

http://www.armorama.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=SquawkBox&file=index&req=viewtopic&topic_id=174774&page=1

G

 

You know, if anyone ever criticizes the Finescale forums, take a look at this link---this was posted on April 20th; it is a masterful, stupendous example of pure Art, and he got 17 lousy replies! Sheesh!

Not only that, but no explanation whatsoever of his techniques or methods. FINESCALE MODELER FORUM RULES! Personally, I think he missed the amount of rusting it should have had on the surface, but I may be wrong; if he got it from a photo,, then he may have been dead-on?

Ok--now to address the post; I think you have to address and consider what you're going to use for water--is it going to be transparent? Translucent? Colored? How much should you tailor the finish to either compliment the material?

Celluclay would be the perfect material for sculpting barnacles, or even just random growths. Also, you could simply layer the sides with putty and rough it up before it cures to simulate sea growth or rampant rust decay.

 

Doog,I went over there and revived the post,he's up to 46 replies now,what diorama,truly great work,thanks for the heads-up

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