PAPER MODELS ?

Well , Good Morning PAWEL !

Here I sit replying again ! It's 7;10 A.M. my time .I got to thinking , ( I know , for an old curmudgeon like me that's dangerous ) You know of course , that ship moved across country twice too ! I believe you may be right !Thread ( even silk fly fishing line ) is affected by humidity.

   The thing is fully rigged including running and standing rigging . Still one of my favorites . The objects you can get are somewhat daunting sometime .I was thinking of DON'S reply when I looked at my Nuclear Plant ( The cutaway model ) There's about twenty or more inches of piping visible on it . I learned real quick how to make tubes ( I/e Pipes ).

     I also use this trick .I dampen the paper after I've cut it to size ( with a little overage ) and using rubber bands let it dry after rolling it around something like a piece of brass tubing .That has worked for me many years now . . There's a Paper-Model website and one fellow was building a humongous freighter ! It was a training tool used by the British Maritime to make sure crewmen knew their ship top to bottom in the Merchant Navy .It's over five foot long ! Every frame , doubler and flange is there , believe you me . Well , You have a good day and thanks for following this . Tanker - Builder

Howdy!

Well if you're living in a jungle, then the humidity would probably be something to watch for... But I just got out of a flat that was so humid that I had problems with maintaining my clothes in the closets in a wearable condition. Still, the paper aircraft I had (uncoated!) sat there for seven years without a problem. So that's not a big thing. Well built paper models have lots of "frames" inside them, to keep them stiff, that helps, too. Those masts that bent probably did this because of the combination of humidity and load.

Thanks for reading and have a nice day!

Paweł

Hi :

    Pawel probably knows  .Now for me As I build I spray the parts with Clear craft spray as I do it . This way the whole thing is protected from moisture ( I/e Humidity ).  One final spray when totally finished and there you have it .

     I have a full hull , two Masted ship I built years ago and didn't spray The paper tube masts bent . I went and put a brass rod inside to straighten it and sprayed the heck out of them .They've stayed true for about ten years now .

Hody Pawel :

    I have to tell you my friend , that over half of my really interesting little ships and two big ones are Maly Modelarz ! they have nice assembly drawings if one doesn't speak Polish  . Shoot , I've even thought about learning that and Portuguese too .

  Thank You for the input   Tanker - Builder

I'd bet my house that was plastic. Amazing work.

Does humidity not affect these things?

Here is another amazing example of a paper model................

................a T-72b on a flat bed rail car

http://www.rctankwarfare.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?f=82&t=9913

Don - it helps to have a tapered "master" - but isn't absolutely critical. You might just go with a cylindrical one, longer than the part you're making and a diameter equal or smaller to the smaller base of the cone.  Then you just start to roll the part, shifting it a small angle at different portions of the part. You start parallel to one edge, and end up paralel to the other edge. Then, while glueing, you concentrate to get a nice, even seam, it helps to keep the "master" inside the part. After that is done, while the glue is still wet, you shape the already closed part and shape it to be smooth and perfectly round, and that should do it.

Hope it helps, have a nice day - and merry Christmas, by the way!

Paweł

Don Stauffer

Do you need a lathe turned "mold" for tapered gun barrels?  The main batteries on most ships have tapered barrels- these are the ones I have so much trouble with.

Do you need a lathe turned "mold" for tapered gun barrels?  The main batteries on most ships have tapered barrels- these are the ones I have so much trouble with.

Naw, when rolling parts, when you got good paper, you just take a drill bit, a screwdriver or a piece of wire and roll the part around it. Cylinders and cones are no problem. OK, a gun barrel is a kind of challenge, but doable with good thin paper and some practice. Normally, with the exception of very small rolled parts, you make a separate "lip" you glue inside the part, so that the round part doesn't show a step or ridge, just a small seam, you usually conceal positioning it so as to look down and be in the shadow.

Have a nice day

Paweł

I must presume the paper model builder must create a considerable number of jigs for support during paper folding and rolling.

Perhaps some round parts are designed so the ends butt together with an under-folded seam support? 

How do they do that?  With some paper kit brands that is the toughest challenge for me- round parts do not come out very round.

I had a beautiful 1/200 HMS Tiger that I built in the past from a paper kit. I was really impressed how they designed the paper so when you fold it you have a round gun barrel.

Just wanted to refer everyone to an old thread dating from July 2012:

Home»Discussion Forums»Modeling Subjects»Armor»PzKpfw V PANTHER Modelik 27/10 (Paper model)

PzKpfw V PANTHER Modelik 27/10 (Paper model)

http://cs.finescale.com/fsm/modeling_subjects/f/3/p/148786/1589635.aspx#1589635

There is a guy in the IPMS chapter here that does some fabulous paper models. Mostly ships, but a little of this and that as well.

I got turned on to paper models at Nats this year. Saw a table with some of them built up. The free ones you can print are especially appealing. I just need to do some serious searching and pick one out one of these days.

Hey ! Goose ;

  Don't feel bad .When My client sent me the TRUMPETER  - ARIZONA to build , Besides all the Plastic there was fifteen frets of P.E. he sent to detail it with ! Two came taped to the box he said .

Hi:

 Listen , I have many of their models .All you have to do is find the exploded drawing and go from there .The Polish languge is not a barrier ! The paper model theme is simple Boxes , circles and tubes and a few more generic shapes . PAWEL , Here's something for you .I have most of my paper  models of really nice stuff  from Kartonowy Arsenal !

Though I did not ask the builder, I presumed from the start that the ship model was no more 100 percent paper.than any of the plastic models in the contest consisted of only 100 percent plastic.

It has been decades since I have seen a model entered into a contest that was exclusively made of plastic.

Hmmm.......now that I think of it, I believe the mid 1980s was the first time I was able to buy a plastic model airplane kit that contained not only plastic but photo etch and cast metal landing gear.

Starting to feel a bit old............

Raualduke - of course not. It has a solid cardboard inner structure and lots of parts soldered out of wire

By the way - use of correct materials is very important to the build. So if you print your models at home, be sure to use paper, that's heavy enough, otherwise it won't work. You would want something slightly thinner than an average business part - or something like a magazine cover. Not all printers can handle correct material without wrinkling. Once I printed a paper model on a regular office paper, but then had to use spray glue to fix that paper to a correct strength material

Have a nice day!

Paweł

Help me out here.that's not entirely paper,is it?

I remember being beat out by a paper ship model at a big contest. I had entered a scratch built Great Lakes ore carrier that I was really proud of.  Did get second place, but a paper WW2 cruiser beat me out and walked away with first place!

That Fuso was an incredible piece of work.  The builder commented that it took him, if I remember correctly, something like 3 years and 3000 hours to build that model.   Wow!

John

See? That's what I was talking about - that Fuso came from a Polish publisher, Wydawnictwo Kartonowy Arsenał/Haliński. Their online shop is here:

www.halinski.com.pl/indexgb.php

There are also other companies, just as good:

http://gpm.pl/en

www.wak.pl/paper-models-c-1.html

modelik.pl/index.php

And others - not translated so well:

http://www.sklep.jsc.pl/

http://www.orlik-models.pl/

www.kartonowakolekcja.republika.pl

ksiegarniabytom.pl/.../844

www.renova-model.com.pl

Hope you can find something for you - and if you have language problems maybe I can help you - thanks for reading and have a nice day

Paweł

Pawel

Hello!

Poland rose to a major paper model power some years ago and is still going strong. there are companies like GPM, Fly Model, Kartonowy Arsenał, WAK and the oldest of them all - Mały Modelarz - since 1957! They do many ships in scales from 1:350 to 1:200, Aircraft in 1:33, tanks and wheeled vehicles in 1:25, some tanks in 1:16, and also rail vehicles and buildings. have the time.

Paweł

I would very much like to buy some of the Polish made paper , 1/25 scale armor kits but am uncertain who I can trust with my money for an online order.

The builder did a beautiful job on it.

I am pretty far along on a WW2 Link Trainer model.  I am a pretty experienced modeler, but this is my first complex paper model.  Boy, am I a novice! It looks like junk!  I am mainly building it to help do scale drawings for a scratch multi-media version.  I am sure learning new skills via trial and error!

Some things I like about paper models;  Low cost is one, there are many free files online, run through your printer with cardstock.  If I screw up a part (or loose one), just reprint that page!  As someone else said, sure are a lot of diverse stuff out there!

Hello!

Poland rose to a major paper model power some years ago and is still going strong. there are companies like GPM, Fly Model, Kartonowy Arsenał, WAK and the oldest of them all - Mały Modelarz - since 1957! They do many ships in scales from 1:350 to 1:200, Aircraft in 1:33, tanks and wheeled vehicles in 1:25, some tanks in 1:16, and also rail vehicles and buildings. For many models there are vacu formed canopies and laser cut parts available. Recently there's a model of the Mi-24 chopper in 1:33 avaialable - you should see that!

On a side note, should you have problems with Polish instructions, drop me a note, I'll help you if only I have the time.

So that would be it, best greetings and have a nice day

Paweł

I've got a 1/25 Maus tank paper model some time go.  The instructions are in Polish.  Don't know when I'll ever get into it