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Why ? Collections and the Future
Posted by tankerbuilder on Thursday, March 5, 2015 9:15 AM

Hello Everybody ;

     I was sitting on the porch the other day and this popped into this old grey mind . What is going to happen to All my models and supplies after I am not here to build or admire them . Will they be worth anything ? If so , How Much ?  The tools I've collected and use daily will be there too  . Along with all the paints and other stuff .

     I don't do much in the way of weathering so I don't have that stuff . I do have Vallejo paints for figures though .  All kinds of foil chrome and enough Alclad to choke a horse ! ( haven't used much of it ) and All my Testors Model Master Paints .

 Now here's the news you NEVER want to hear .Your stuff isn't worth enough to fix a windshield on a pickup ! Why ? Well who's going to give your descendants enough to make it worthwhile . NO ONE ! At least for most of it . Your " Rare " stuff  for instance ? Who besides you know it's rare in the world of models ?

 I think we should stop for a day or two and think about our mortality for a minute . Then , think about our models in the shop , on the bench and in the stash . I guess we all could donate it to Fine Scale Modeler to start a museum of plastic kits ? Naw , I think they have enough on their plate .  You do know of course , that most Museums won't take anything as well , don't you ?

   My experience with them is, if it fits in their agenda , Maybe . Mostly NO ! They would require a storage space equivalent to the largest sports complex in their city . No museum is going to go there . Okay , so here we are . Many , many expensive kits , many old ( maybe collectible in value ) kits and then all the after-market improvement kits as well .

I have an idea that may or may not sit well with any of you  .I donate , usually about once a year , models to the Wounded Warrier Project here in San Antonio . Right now it's money and groups of kits through my LHS . I also have a group I am setting aside for the V.A craft center at Audie Murphy and another to the V.A. in Martinez , California .

 Well , you say , What good will that do ? Your family will be freed from the burden of figuring out how much each kit is worth , If it's started , and the same if it's in the box , unbuilt and Not started in any way .The other thing is flea markets .They could take the time to rent a space and sell there  .My final thought on that is , I have a note on my note board , to contact Fred Sterns in Buffalo and Dean Sills to value and buy what's left .

     Now as to the built stuff , I have left a note detailing who wants what and where they are .With their phone number and E-mail address .This way I don't see any going to a garage sale . See , I still worry about stuff that won't even be a concern for me . BUT it will be a concern for those left after we leave .

    I know the subject is one no one wants to talk about , but we should talk about this to loved ones and those legally responsible for the estate we leave behind . No matter what it is .Make sure you cover this in your will too !  Models to us , are our link to history and the world before us ,and the world around us . This is something No One understands , Or the reason why we are driven to make them as perfect as possible .

I will leave you now , especially after ruining your day . Don't ever stop Modeling .! Why ? it's re-creation , history telling and just plain relaxing for us even with the Fubars . Model On      Tanker Builder     P.S.            Don't think for a minute you are doing your children a favor Unless they or a Grandchild expressed a very strong interest . Mark those models and set them aside first ! Also inventory the models in note-books by category and type . I do have to make this one fact evident though .Partially started models are worth the cost of recycling only ! Why , Most want to start it themselves .That's why the V.A requires fully unstarted kits !

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Posted by BLACKSMITHN on Thursday, March 5, 2015 10:05 AM

Well, since none of my kids have expressed any interest in the modeling I do, and since I don't have grandkids (yet), I imagine my wife's next husband will just throw everything out before he and my widow run off to spend all my life insurance money.

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Posted by tankerbuilder on Thursday, March 5, 2015 10:10 AM

I think it's wonderful that you are that young .

   I can't seem to put on the brakes , not that I want to . I am 72

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Posted by GMorrison on Thursday, March 5, 2015 10:20 AM

Hope she doesn't read your posts, Black...

Just kidding.

I've been involved in disposing of a number of households recently. It's that time in our lives, I guess.

A partial answer, Tanks.

There's stuff people leave behind thats difficult to deal with, and it's a burden in a way on your descendants.

The biggest PITA is car repair related stuff. All that old oil, expired solvents, on and on. Even the vehicles. We had an old 1943 jeep to deal with. So you think, well thats gotta be worth something. Post it online and all the jeep wonks go "its a Ford frame with a GMC front axle, and a Korean engine. Too much work yada yada." So you pay to have it towed or sell it for  that amount to the tow company.

Paint isnt too hard anymore, waste disposal companies have systems, but it can cost money.

Anything related to hunting. Guns can be sold, but self loading set ups especially if there is lead shot. Gun stores cant buy powder or ammunition, you sure don't want to sell it to a private party, and police departments wont touch it.

As for model supplies, the tendency is for people to toss it in the dumpster. But thats a bad thing for paints and solvents.

Obviously we dont know exactly when we are going to go, or if we do we're past being able to clean up after ourselves.

My only take away is to try to clean up after yourself as you go along, and whatever you decide you want to have happen to your models, write it down.

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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Posted by DURR on Thursday, March 5, 2015 1:13 PM

i have thought of this many times for a few yrs now         and now reality is hitting         i got maybe a yr then i'm done   well originally  my wife was going to call a dumpster but.... good news  i have convinced her with my brothers help  they will dispose of my stash on evil-bay split the money 50/50  hey if they recoup 10% of their value thats 550-600 bucks for the 2 to split     in the mean time  i am building my brains out the best i can with my limited ability keeping 5-6 in progress on the bench

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Posted by tankerbuilder on Thursday, March 5, 2015 2:36 PM

You See ;

This is what I find myself doing too .Now , I do wonder why  .Well certain ones are slated for those whom have shown an interest in the subject matter . I guess till that time I will build , detail and paint like I have a contract to fulfill  .On that infamous pail list the last thing happens at age 125 ( YEAH SURE ! ) well , we can dream can't we ?

     That's making a statement to a young group of students about what life was like in 1943 . I believe the shock of realizing we did without the self driving , eco-friendly cars and tiny houses , cell phone wrist units and  I- Pads , Pods and Tablets , there was life . Granted , crude by today's standards but a darned good life ! Oh fiddly , Model On !     Tanker - Builder

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Posted by Tojo72 on Thursday, March 5, 2015 2:43 PM

My Built stuff will probably stay in the basement display cases since they aren't bothering anyone or in the way."That is until my wife gets married again". Big Smile

My best friend will sell my stash off for her as there are a handful of kits that may fetch something on Ebay.

But thats it,not a huge stash of kits and supplies on hand anyway,and my stuff ain't fit to be displayed in any museum or VFW post.

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  • From: Cameron, Texas
Posted by Texgunner on Thursday, March 5, 2015 11:05 PM

GMorrison

Guns can be sold, but self loading set ups especially if there is lead shot. Gun stores cant buy powder or ammunition, you sure don't want to sell it to a private party, and police departments wont touch it.

I have a lot of ammunition and the guns that shoot it.  My plan is that my son and son-in-law will be set for years to come, so that they and my grandsons will be shooting far into the foreseeable future.  If it had to be sold, who better than a private party?  I have friends who would be glad to have it, heck, if it came to that, the ammunition would be given to them.  They know how to put it to good use.

Gary


"All you mugs need to get busy building, and post pics!"

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Posted by GMorrison on Thursday, March 5, 2015 11:15 PM

Friends are different than a private party.

What I am talking about is people you dont know.

It all sounds easy now, but Im telling you that when the time comes and your kids have to deal with your friends kids, its a whole different story.

I'm just talking from experience here as a gun owner, a guy who has inherited guns, and other things that are regulated for sale.

You need to have your son in law named as the recipient of all of that stuff, in writing, and have his verbal agreement, and the same from his wife, that its going to be ok.

And likewise your friends, and their kids.

Take a little advice from someone who had to deal with this.

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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  • From: Cameron, Texas
Posted by Texgunner on Thursday, March 5, 2015 11:40 PM

My son and son-in-law will be able to divide the inheritance between them.  I can't foresee a problem in that regard.  My son will be bequeathed the NFA items, per ATF regulations.  I understand that there will not need to be another transfer tax paid.  I do believe though that a trust would be a better idea, and we have been discussing that.  Thanks for the advice!  I do appreciate it.Smile


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Posted by Jon_a_its on Friday, March 6, 2015 7:06 AM

Hmmm, size of stash x rate of build = I'm going to live forever! Wink

Told my partner to either pile it on the lawn & set me on top, viking style, or ebay it, enough for a holiday or 2!

Slight issue with the 'old & vintage' collectables...

it's only of value while those of a similar vintage to ahem.. us, so as fewer of us are left to appreciate the old stuff, it should get cheaper to buy!

& besides, my partner can't see any future use for my left-handed golf clubs!  Movie

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Posted by tankerbuilder on Friday, March 6, 2015 10:34 AM

AHA !

That's why I sold off my clubs already  .Gees , I miss walking the courses , Playing eighteen or nine and having a cocktail in the clubhouse  .Legs can't take it anymore and my walker ( which is needed if long time afoot , doesn't have turf wheels ! ) LOL..

    Nah , really It pains me to say it , But many wives and sons/daughters would just load it up and " Goodwill " it . This is a travesty beyond comprehension , but there it is  . What do you do with this stuff? Make it specific and then they can do what you ask !

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Posted by BlackSheepTwoOneFour on Friday, March 6, 2015 10:41 AM

I'm sure some of us share your thoughts. Knowing my wife, she's already said told me she's tossing everything model related all out in the trash and there's nothing I can do to stop her. Sad thing, she's right. Although I did tell her I'd come back to haunt her for doing such a thing. LOL!

If I had my way, I would donate them to a Disabled Veterans Club of sorts so they can enjoy them. As for completed builds, it's hard to say. Hopefully my wife & son will know better enough to hold onto a few for sentimental reasons to remind them of how much I love building kits. Maybe they will pass them on to my future grandkids too.

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Posted by GMorrison on Friday, March 6, 2015 10:44 AM

Oh I don't think its really a travesty. We accumulate a LOT of crap though a lifetime. No one wants old golf clubs anyways, even lefties. You just cant play the game with them, if you care about your game.

I had probably ten big Sony televisions to sell, the tube kind. All more than 32", all pretty new. I could not GIVE them away. Why when a bigger flat screen is available at Walmart for a couple of hundred dollars.

Really, we need to pay attention and clean up after ourselves before we go west. It can really put a bias on how you are remembered, to leave behind a dump.

I routinely bust up my older models, scrounge any usable parts like cast metal guns, and throw them away. Sentimental fool I am, but they start to fall apart, they aren't all that well made, they collect dust and take up room.

Digital photo collection on the cloud suits me fine. They look better on screen than in real life.

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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Posted by ikar01 on Friday, March 6, 2015 6:12 PM

As is usaual in our club, they will help take care of that, wither by just buying everything outright or helping her sell it at a contest.

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Posted by Weird-Oh on Tuesday, March 10, 2015 5:16 PM

I have a good friend (who's a lot younger than me) who sells stuff on eBay all the time, and is well-versed in researching value. I'm sure he wouldn't mind handling the task, especially if he gets a cut. Then my wife can afford to have my ashes launched into space like I want. :-) There must at least be some interest in modeling, judging by the stratospheric amounts some old kits bring on the market. I'd like to think that my collection will go to someone who'll appreciate it. I can dream.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Tuesday, March 10, 2015 6:00 PM

I think about this often as of late. I have Pulmonary Fibrosis, which is terminal so I don't really know when it will take me. Maybe 3 years, maybe never. I will have a couple of years where I will decline sharply so can judge when that time may be, assuming I will be unable to receive a lung transplant at that age.

I told my wife to see what see can get for boxed kits at the club. I'm cheap and find most of my kits on eBay, probably from some other poor guy who's wife or kids are trying to get the best price for a stash left behind, so there won't be too much loss. Besides, there is probably a total of 50 kits in my stash, so there aren't too many to sell off.

As far as the finished builds, knowing her, she will probably hold on to most of them for memories sake, knowing how much pleasure I get from building. She really likes looking at them as well. After she goes, it won't really matter then. The grandsons may play with them and more than likely blow them up like I did with my childhood builds.

I'm working on donating most of my builds to the Veterans home as soon as they make a cabinet for them, and if that falls through, I'm looking for other destinations which may appreciate them.

It does seem kinda sad though. My father passed away a few years back, and while I have made a tidy profit for his fishing lures and model trains (which has supported my hobby to this point), it just seems sad to see something that gives one joy just disintegrate into the dust of time.

Steve

Building a kit from your stash is like cutting a head off a Hydra, two more take it's place.

 

 

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