Tha General Lee , Ironclads and Figures

Yeah !

Horses bite when startled to and some times because they want to  .

Morrison , Goose ,

You're both right then there's this Make sure your hands are warm where the cow is concerned or she will kick you . They can also be evil minded .Wait till you get the bucket almost full then kick it over !

I must admit an udder lack of experience with cows.

Horses can be a bit skittish and kick when surprised.

So many nipples, so little time.

I did a summer on a dairy farm in Finland. Well, actually about four weeks until the farmer's daughter's father sent me on my way.

I don't remember the cows having a lot of moods. Basically one. Give me a good angle and I'll kick you.

The way you comment on it.............the experience must have been very mooving...............

Yeah ;

But if you startle the cow enough times she gives bad milk .Take it from someone who knows .

I find it difficult to believe those who hold the rights to a cash cow are going to abandon milking said cow........................just sayin'...........

Yep, the folks that own the show want to get out of the business of making money on that.

Now you have to either:

a) Buy out the stock at Round Two

b) pay 21.99 to various companies

or

c) buy the car in one place and the flag in another.

This is what one, online store is saying about licensing:

http://img.dlisys.com/RD225807/aw17_r6_c1.jpg

I'm just happy that thoughtful folks can still get a Rush in today's sound bite  happy world.

That site continues the argument that my new favorite commentator Rush (not seriously but if he and I agree on something, it must be true) has thoroughly debunked.

The flag that was removed is for the purposes of the debate on racism; the Confederate flag. It is recognized by so many people as a symbol of an attempt to continue to treat negroes like farm animals that to label those people stupid or misinformed would be to do so to the majority of people in this country.

In any case, South Carolina's past history is safe and sound. Ben Tillman's statue isn't going anywhere soon.

Which is really a bigger deal in a way. I personally would pay to have another plaque installed on the base of the statue, under the one that says "..Hero of the South, friend of the common people",

reading: "We of the South have never recognized the right of the negro to govern white men, and we never will. We have never believed him to be the equal of the white man, and we will not submit to his gratifying his lust on our wives and daughters without lynching him. I would to God the last one of them was in Africa and that none of them had ever been brought to our shores.

-South Carolina Governor Benjamin Tillman"

Well, I have to confess that site didn't tell me anything I didn't already know.

There was indeed a knee-jerk reaction to the removal of the flag from the SC Statehouse monument. Most of that reaction, from what I can tell, came from people who thought the flag was being "banned" in some way. It wasn't. The SC Legislature just voted to remove one flag from one flagpole.

Came across this this afternoon and it's a very interesting read. 19 Things You Didn't Know About the Confederate Flag:

www.rantpolitical.com/.../15-things-you-didnt-know-about-the-confederate-flag

This proves my point the SC fiasco regarding the Confederate flag is a knee-jerk over-reaction.

Metro isn't bad at all, even during Nats games, nothing like trying to actually drive anywhere near the beltway. If you do find yourself using the metro more than a few times, get a smart pass, you can load it up with money once and won't have to worry about figuring out the fares. I personally enjoy walking around the mall and the smithsonian, pick a museum or two one weekend and just go to them, but then that's the benefit of living close.

The other good alternative is the "Tourmobile" system. You can park at either Arlington or Union Station and buy a Tourmobile pass that's good for the whole day. Not exactly cheap, but it beats walking the length of the Mall or driving around and around looking for a parking space.

Bikes? Forget it! LOL! I wouldn't mind it but the missus hasn't rode a bike in years and son had no interest in bike riding. My sis drove us to the Metro station Saturday and parking nor metro ride was bad. Weekends seem to be the best time to head to DC without dealing with weekday commuters.

If you and your family are up to it, the best way to get around the public parts of Washington is on a bicycle.

Park your car at Arlington Cemetery and forget it. The ride over Arlington Bridge is kind of hairy, but once you get to the Lincoln Memorial all the monuments and museums are wide open to you - and the Mall is dead flat. (You'll discover that Capitol Hill really is a hill, though.)

Another fun bike route: from Rock Creek Park to the Kennedy Center. If you have any luck with the lights, you can make that trip without turning the pedals.

But be sure to get a good lock for your bike.

G -

My mistake. The removal of the Confederate flag at the capital.

Didn't get that chance this time. We talked about going back on Monday but decided not to due to where the Metro station we go to (Branch St. Terminal), parking will be hard to get because of DC commuters filling up parking spaces pretty early and fast. Plus, the downside the terminal coming back will horrendous at the evening rush hour at the Metro station and the ride home.

Next time we come down to visit my sister, that will be a first priority destination.

You really need to go to Air and Space if you haven't already. And kids love it.

There's a good wiki article about the CSA flags. The original Secession flag had a blue cross in the manner of St. George (vertical/ horizontal) that was replaced in large part over concern that it excluded Jewish people.

Virginia certainly is the beginning of the European part of the American story, at least in the East. A lot of history there. I'm not sure George owning slaves is too ironic. That's the way it was. 70 years later the world had changed, and it took a force called Lincoln (who did not own slaves) to make it happen. Not alone of course.

No states seceded; 11 tried and failed, but they lost the war and could not get international recognition. Half of Virginia stayed with the Union (West Virginia). A big chunk of Southern Maryland tried and failed. If I remember correctly, the CSA invaded Kentucky, which wanted to stay neutral, and the Union drove the CSA out.

BS214, one more time SC did NOT ban the flag. You could fly it tomorrow in your front yard across the street from the Capitol.

The people of the State have decided not to fly it on State lands.

Kind of under the radar, but in other news the US House of Representatives voted this week, without debate, that the flag cannot be flown in National Cemeteries anymore. Which I believe was the only Federal lands on which it could fly for other than historical purposes. Which is just to say that if someone wants to put the flag on the grave of their Confederate ancestor, they'll have to go pay for the land themselves, not rely on the Federal Government to pay the rent.

Four of the first five Presidents were Virginians; John Adams of Massachusetts was the exception.  That's the "Virginia Dynasty" that's sometimes referenced in Presidential discussions.   Sorry, old history teacher and History major,  I just can't help myself!

Gary

Another interesting thing I completely forgot and a lot of folks didn't realize at the time is our first President of the United States, George Washington was a southerner from Virginia and owned slaves himself. Kinda ironic isn't it?

Greetings from Southern Maryland. Just sitting in my hotel room with my family after a trip to our Nation's Capitol. Went to the Smithsonian of Natural History Musuem and Smithsonian Museum of American History. Touring The Price of Freedom there is worth seeing starting from the beginning of the American Revolution right up to Desert Storm. Interestingly enough, I found out something I never knew regarding the Confederate Flag. the so-called Stars and Bars that SC banned, was NOT the original Confederate Flag for the Confederate States of America. Keep in mind, 7 ( or was it 8? I forget) states seceded.the first flag was red, white, red stripes with blue corner box with 8 stars in a circle. The stars and bars came later.

Texgunner

Interesting conversation gentlemen!  

On the subject of the Confederate Airforce, some of you may remember this one :

I hadn't seen that build.

I like the "low vis" marking design. 

Anyone do a build for the "Sovereign State of Texas" ? 

Interesting conversation gentlemen!  

On the subject of the Confederate Airforce, some of you may remember this one :

http://cs.finescale.com/fsm/modeling_subjects/f/2/p/138207/1436827.aspx#1436827

That quote about the Confederate Constitution banning the slave trade is even more ridiculous than GM noted.

The United States Constitution guaranteed that the U.S. Congress would keep its hands off the overseas slave trade for twenty years - i.e., until 1808. That was one of several concessions to persuade the southern delegates to sign the document. Shortly after that provision expired, Congress did pass a law banning the importation of slaves from overseas. From that point onward all slaves in the U.S. were either descendants of other American slaves or smuggled in illegally. The South had been getting along without legally imported slaves for more than fifty years before it seceded.

The U.S. Navy's Africa Squadron had the job of trying to shut down the transatlantic slave trade. It had scarcely any success. Donald Canney's book on the subject attributes the Africa Squadron's dismal record, in part, to the Navy's refusal to assign steamships to the mission, and to the fact that most of the Secretaries of the Navy in the mid-19th century were southerners.

Its true, not to mention we have no news station that is in the middle.   WAY left or WAY right.  Listen to Fox then ABC and the situation is right in the middle.  Both do have certain points correct then the slant comes rolling in.  

Honestly the BBC and Canadian News tend to throw both sides portrayals which is good to see.  However we never actually get the full view of things.