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P-40 pilot
Posted by blackdog62 on Wednesday, January 27, 2016 5:07 PM

I just finished the book kittyhawk pilot about James f. "Eddie" Edward .

The book doesn't have any photos of hisaircraft.

I was hopping that somebody may have a photo of any of his p-40s that he flew in north Africa in 260 squadron. It wouldn't mater which victory marks it has. I guess while I'm asking any photo of the Spitfire's he flew in Italy would work also.

The book is quite good it is dictated by himself from his flight log and memory.

I would recommend it to anybody interested in ww2 biography.

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Posted by Cdn Colin on Wednesday, January 27, 2016 5:20 PM

That does sound like a good read!

I don't think the RAF put victory marks on their aircraft.  It would be easy enough to find the squadron code but the aircraft letter would be a bigger challenge, if he had his own assigned aircraft.  Camouflage would be to a standard pattern.

 

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Posted by fermis on Thursday, January 28, 2016 4:07 AM

Seems to be rather famous!

 

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Posted by Cdn Colin on Thursday, January 28, 2016 7:14 AM

Good call!  I suspected, but didn't make the connection.  Here's a source for markings, if you don't have them:

http://www.canmilair.com/products.asp?cat=33&pg=2

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Posted by stikpusher on Thursday, January 28, 2016 12:54 PM

Cdn Colin

 

I don't think the RAF put victory marks on their aircraft.  

 

 

RAF fighters with kill marks were not common, but not too rare either.

 

 

 

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Posted by Texgunner on Thursday, January 28, 2016 2:25 PM

Any idea about the identity of the last pilot Stik?  I noticed he has kill markings for all three of the Axis Powers.  Impressive career...Big Smile

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Posted by stikpusher on Thursday, January 28, 2016 2:33 PM

Texgunner

Any idea about the identity of the last pilot Stik?  I noticed he has kill markings for all three of the Axis Powers.  Impressive career...Big Smile

Gary

 

 

Sure do my friend. That would be Clive "Killer" Caldwell. Highest scoring ace in the RAAF.

 

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Posted by Texgunner on Thursday, January 28, 2016 2:50 PM

stikpusher

 

 
Texgunner

Any idea about the identity of the last pilot Stik?  I noticed he has kill markings for all three of the Axis Powers.  Impressive career...Big Smile

Gary

 

 

 

 

Sure do my friend. That would be Clive "Killer" Caldwell. Highest scoring ace in the RAAF.

 

Ah, that's good to know!  An Aussie flyer, eh?  "Bloody struth mate!"  He's got a mighty impressive billboard goin' on that ship.  Thanks for the info!!


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Posted by stikpusher on Thursday, January 28, 2016 2:59 PM

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

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Posted by knox on Thursday, January 28, 2016 5:10 PM

Thanks for the article.  A bittersweet read.                              gk

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Posted by blackdog62 on Thursday, January 28, 2016 10:08 PM

Fermis....thank you so much for the pics. 

From the book it sounds like he ranked as one of the high ranked aces to come out of Africa. But he dose mention the top guys seems he flew with them all at 1 time or a other. even has afew story's about flying with the Americans when they got involved.

That one 70 yr old p-40 is a  unique find indeed. That would make a nice build but it would be beyond my skills to do it any Justice.

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Posted by blackdog62 on Thursday, January 28, 2016 10:21 PM

Thank you all for the response.

All those guys just seem to have loved to fly. Most of them seem to say the same thing you just had to have luck on your side.

I can only wonder what a new pilot would think walking up and looking at scores like on those planes. Mighty impressive.

Is killer Caldwell the pilot that flew with the wooden leg ?

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Posted by fermis on Thursday, January 28, 2016 11:14 PM

There is a few more pics, I just picked a coulpe.

I just googled "260 squadron P-40" and went to "images".

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Posted by stikpusher on Friday, January 29, 2016 12:12 AM

blackdog62

 

Is killer Caldwell the pilot that flew with the wooden leg ?

 

 

Not as far as I know. The only Allied/RAF ace pilot that I am aware of with artificial legs was Douglas Bader. He flew in the early part of the war and was shot down over France and captured in 1941, sitting out the rest of the war in German POW camps.

 

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Posted by blackdog62 on Friday, January 29, 2016 9:17 AM

Fermis... thank you for researchering and posting. I thought I did that but I used his name must had did something wrong. When it comes to me and the Web who knows what I did.  

Stick pusher...I remember that story know the German Luftwaffe even set up a new wood leg for for him hrough the red cross because lost his after he baild out.

I can't remember the details I think the RAF smuggled something to him in them.

Or he tried to escape after he got the leg. Need to hit the books on that one.

 

 

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Posted by fermis on Friday, January 29, 2016 9:27 AM

blackdog62

Fermis... thank you for researchering and posting. I thought I did that but I used his name must had did something wrong. When it comes to me and the Web who knows what I did.  

Stick pusher...I remember that story know the German Luftwaffe even set up a new wood leg for for him hrough the red cross because lost his after he baild out.

I can't remember the details I think the RAF smuggled something to him in them.

Or he tried to escape after he got the leg. Need to hit the books on that one.

 

 

 

...He cut off his other leg and sent it home...then his left arm...then the Germans shot him because they thought he was trying to escape!!!Stick out tongue

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Posted by blackdog62 on Friday, January 29, 2016 10:05 AM

Lol he almost made it.

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Posted by Cdn Colin on Friday, January 29, 2016 12:28 PM

I've read Bader's autobiography.  When he bailed out he had to leave one of his legs in the cockpit.  Goering himself took pity on him laying in hospital with no legs and arranged for one RAF plane to fly over one Luftwaffe base at a specified time and drop him some spare legs.  As soon as he had them, Bader tied bed sheets together and escaped from the hospital.  When the recaptured him they took his legs away as a punishment.

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Posted by stikpusher on Friday, January 29, 2016 3:56 PM
Yes, Bader was the embodiment of indefatigable. True willpower no matter what the odds or situation.

 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Friday, January 29, 2016 4:31 PM
"Air Aces" on AHC has the story of Bader. "Tin Legs" i believe they called him. Very impressive how he could withstand higher G's because of his missing legs. I have a print of his plane in my hobby room along with a print of one of the Abbeville Boys, I don't remember who at the moment though.

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Posted by blackdog62 on Friday, January 29, 2016 10:29 PM

That's a amazing man...never give up.

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Posted by OldGoat on Saturday, January 30, 2016 2:37 AM

JRD Braham wrote in his book "Nightfighter" that Bader once placed pingpong balls in the cavitys of his legs. He feared that if he bailed out over water they would drag him down.

Braham said he could not imagine Bader's surprise when, at altitude, they began to pop due to the drop in air pressure.  

I found that amazing.

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Posted by blackdog62 on Saturday, January 30, 2016 7:05 PM

I never heard that i believe it.  It was something a!ot of pilots feard going in the drink.

It seems most had a item or something they wouldn't fly without.

So he had 2 false legs?

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Posted by Cdn Colin on Saturday, January 30, 2016 7:53 PM

Yes, he had both amputated after a flying accident.  One above and one below the knee, if I remember.  He had one leg of one set shortened to improve his golf swing.

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Posted by blackdog62 on Sunday, January 31, 2016 10:05 AM

That is some strong will. Makes my chronic ailment seem minute.

LOL got to love the golf angle. Anything for a better score.

 

 

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