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Posted by scottrc on Monday, May 16, 2016 1:05 PM

This thread popped up in my "Forums" list but I did not open and read the links.  I just don't think the following words should never be associated with fine scale modeling:

Naked = BuildReview = Youtube

These words associated together could create a metal picture that would require years of therapy to fix. A Google search also results in a call from the IT manager and a closed door talk in the HR office.  

On a more serious note, childish, immature, playground name calling also has no place in our hobby, even if we spend hours playing with model airplanes, cars, ships, and anatomically correct female fantasy figures, we can all act like adults and respect each an everyone's talents, intersts, and point of view.  

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Posted by Moff on Monday, May 16, 2016 12:03 PM

Rob! 

 

"Gaiety is the most outstanding feature of the Soviet Union." - Josef Stalin 

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Posted by BlackSheepTwoOneFour on Sunday, May 15, 2016 11:18 AM

He's gone and done it again. Why even bother posting anymore? You might as well not contribute to the site and just leave. Just saying...

I don't know if you realize it or not, but any valuable or invaluable advice you posted do come in handy for others. But continuation of posting and deleting them is depriving others of your input. Sad really.....

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Posted by Pawel on Sunday, May 15, 2016 3:57 AM

Rob - thank you very much, it means a lot to me! Maybe I can post another update of my build in a few days. Thanks again and have a nice day

Paweł

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Sunday, May 15, 2016 12:07 AM

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Posted by BlackSheepTwoOneFour on Saturday, May 14, 2016 4:46 PM

midnightprowler

Rob, I am with the rest, I find your posts very informative. Don't give the trolls what they want.

 

 

Deleting your posts gives the trolls the upper hand because they got you where they want you. Don't delete your posts to give the trolls the satisfaction.

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Posted by midnightprowler on Saturday, May 14, 2016 6:21 AM

Rob, I am with the rest, I find your posts very informative. Don't give the trolls what they want.

Hi, I am Lee, I am a plastiholic.

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Posted by Pawel on Friday, May 13, 2016 3:21 PM

Hello Rob!

I know you've had your share of problems with stupid people here on the FSM forums, but I also find it a big loss to the community, that you are deleting your posts. At first I couldn't understand it at all, now it's a little bit easier, but still it's a pity.

I'd also like to use this opportunity to thank you for your great help with building my armor models, especially the CEV - I'm still working on it, by the way. For example you supplied me with the details on how the driver's hatch operates - before you did I really had a problem to find that info on the 'net. So thanks again for sharing and have a nice day

Paweł

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

www.vietnam.net.pl

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Friday, May 13, 2016 2:42 PM

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Posted by Nathan T on Friday, May 13, 2016 1:58 PM

Rob Gronovius

 

 
Bish

Rob, i have seen you make this coment before and i am afraid i have to respond and give you an honest view. I do think you are slightly over reacting about all this, and it is a real shame you decide to remove your posts and even a bigger shame you won't give people honest advice which many long for just because of the odd comment, which i must say i have seen very little here.

Just had to put in my 2 cents

 

 

 

My opinion or advice is no more valuable or honest than any other person's comments. No information I post here wouldn't be provided by someone else. As a matter of fact, guys like Mike D. here probably have better, more accurate information or opinions that are more valuable than anything I would post. I normally remove the post after I've seen that the intended person has acknowleded it or after the discussion has run its course. No loss to the communtiy at all; the person gets his question answered or information provided and those offended by my substandard posts don't have to put up with them for long before they are removed.

 

Who the heck is Mike D? Isn't he long gone?

 

 

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Posted by Moff on Friday, May 13, 2016 1:40 PM

hogfanfs

 

 
Moff
 
knox

I just follow Toshi for my reviews. He is nice, has cool stories, and is a very fast builder of quality models.  Never a dull moment.  

Forgot to mention-- it's free.   

 

 

 

Is he on YouTube? Where can I find him?

 

 

 

 

Moff,

Toshi is not a master builder, he is a Grand Master Builder, and you can find him right here on FSM!

Here:

http://cs.finescale.com/fsm/modeling_subjects/f/2/t/171009.aspx

and here:

http://cs.finescale.com/fsm/modeling_subjects/f/2/t/170878.aspx

 

 

 

Nice!

"Gaiety is the most outstanding feature of the Soviet Union." - Josef Stalin 

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Posted by Moff on Friday, May 13, 2016 1:35 PM

Bish

 

 
Rob Gronovius
 
Bish

Rob, i have seen you make this coment before and i am afraid i have to respond and give you an honest view. I do think you are slightly over reacting about all this, and it is a real shame you decide to remove your posts and even a bigger shame you won't give people honest advice which many long for just because of the odd comment, which i must say i have seen very little here.

Just had to put in my 2 cents

 

 

 

My opinion or advice is no more valuable or honest than any other person's comments. No information I post here wouldn't be provided by someone else. As a matter of fact, guys like Mike D. here probably have better, more accurate information or opinions that are more valuable than anything I would post. I normally remove the post after I've seen that the intended person has acknowleded it or after the discussion has run its course. No loss to the communtiy at all; the person gets his question answered or information provided and those offended by my substandard posts don't have to put up with them for long before they are removed.

 

 

 

Well, i have to disagree. We all have our own experiances that are unique to us. Your own personal experiance are a perfect example. Sure, plenty of people may have book knowledge, but we all know thats not the same as hands on. And yes, others may have had first hand experiance, but theirs will be differant from yours.

Ok, the person you are responding to gets there answer, but the ones to come in the future will be the ones who lose out.

At the end of the day, its all your choice, but i think it is a loss to the community and a thumbs up to the idiots.

But, at least these posts of yours survive in our quotes, sorry mate, but bugger all you can do about that Wink

 

Personally Rob, I'd love to read your posts. The haters can go fly a kite. Letting them bother you is want they want. I strongly urge you to leave your posts up, because I really would love to read them.

"Gaiety is the most outstanding feature of the Soviet Union." - Josef Stalin 

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Posted by Bish on Friday, May 13, 2016 1:29 PM

Rob Gronovius
 
Bish

Rob, i have seen you make this coment before and i am afraid i have to respond and give you an honest view. I do think you are slightly over reacting about all this, and it is a real shame you decide to remove your posts and even a bigger shame you won't give people honest advice which many long for just because of the odd comment, which i must say i have seen very little here.

Just had to put in my 2 cents

 

 

 

My opinion or advice is no more valuable or honest than any other person's comments. No information I post here wouldn't be provided by someone else. As a matter of fact, guys like Mike D. here probably have better, more accurate information or opinions that are more valuable than anything I would post. I normally remove the post after I've seen that the intended person has acknowleded it or after the discussion has run its course. No loss to the communtiy at all; the person gets his question answered or information provided and those offended by my substandard posts don't have to put up with them for long before they are removed.

 

Well, i have to disagree. We all have our own experiances that are unique to us. Your own personal experiance are a perfect example. Sure, plenty of people may have book knowledge, but we all know thats not the same as hands on. And yes, others may have had first hand experiance, but theirs will be differant from yours.

Ok, the person you are responding to gets there answer, but the ones to come in the future will be the ones who lose out.

At the end of the day, its all your choice, but i think it is a loss to the community and a thumbs up to the idiots.

But, at least these posts of yours survive in our quotes, sorry mate, but bugger all you can do about that Wink

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by BlackSheepTwoOneFour on Friday, May 13, 2016 12:59 PM

What's the point of posting then deleting it? Might as well not post anything at all. It makes no sense. Leave your post for others to see and learn.

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Posted by hogfanfs on Friday, May 13, 2016 12:44 PM

Rob Gronovius
  

My opinion or advice is no more valuable or honest than any other person's comments. No information I post here wouldn't be provided by someone else. As a matter of fact, guys like Mike D. here probably have better, more accurate information or opinions that are more valuable than anything I would post. I normally remove the post after I've seen that the intended person has acknowleded it or after the discussion has run its course. No loss to the communtiy at all; the person gets his question answered or information provided and those offended by my substandard posts don't have to put up with them for long before they are removed.

 

IMHO, I don't think you give yourself enough credit, Rob. I feel you are an invaluable source for information on modern AFV's. I can understand, but, It's too bad that that you feel that way. I for one have learned a lot from your posts. I'll just have to make sure I catch them before you delete.

 Bruce

 

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Posted by hogfanfs on Friday, May 13, 2016 12:35 PM

Moff
 
knox

I just follow Toshi for my reviews. He is nice, has cool stories, and is a very fast builder of quality models.  Never a dull moment.  

Forgot to mention-- it's free.   

 

 

 

Is he on YouTube? Where can I find him?

 

 

Moff,

Toshi is not a master builder, he is a Grand Master Builder, and you can find him right here on FSM!

Here:

http://cs.finescale.com/fsm/modeling_subjects/f/2/t/171009.aspx

and here:

http://cs.finescale.com/fsm/modeling_subjects/f/2/t/170878.aspx

 

 

 Bruce

 

 On the bench:  1/48 Eduard MiG-21MF

                        1/35 Takom Merkava Mk.I

 

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Posted by Moff on Friday, May 13, 2016 12:32 PM

knox

I just follow Toshi for my reviews. He is nice, has cool stories, and is a very fast builder of quality models.  Never a dull moment.  

Forgot to mention-- it's free.   

 

Is he on YouTube? Where can I find him?

"Gaiety is the most outstanding feature of the Soviet Union." - Josef Stalin 

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Friday, May 13, 2016 12:11 PM

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Posted by knox on Friday, May 13, 2016 11:42 AM

I just follow Toshi for my reviews. He is nice, has cool stories, and is a very fast builder of quality models.  Never a dull moment.  

Forgot to mention-- it's free.   

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Posted by Moff on Thursday, May 12, 2016 10:00 PM

MJames70

Some people like to bloviate, then whine and cry for ages if someone dares to criticize them. For they are the anointed, stepped down off the cross to help us little ones see the error of Our ways. Welcome to the Internet. 

 

 

Hah! Big Smile

Gotta love that sarcasm.  

"Gaiety is the most outstanding feature of the Soviet Union." - Josef Stalin 

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Posted by MJames70 on Thursday, May 12, 2016 7:14 PM

Some people like to bloviate, then whine and cry for ages if someone dares to criticize them. For they are the anointed, stepped down off the cross to help us little ones see the error of Our ways. Welcome to the Internet. 

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Posted by Moff on Thursday, May 12, 2016 6:09 PM

templar1099

Saw the topic, now I have to get dressed.

 

 

Your comment = the only reason I posted this thread. 

"Gaiety is the most outstanding feature of the Soviet Union." - Josef Stalin 

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Posted by echolmberg on Thursday, May 12, 2016 2:37 PM

BlackSheepTwoOneFour

We all forget at one time or another we built our first kit without slinging any paint. I know I did.

 

 
Often, it was the paint and the vinyl stickers that were keeping my models from falling apart!  
 
Eric

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Posted by Beans on Thursday, May 12, 2016 2:31 PM

templar1099

Saw the topic, now I have to get dressed. 

Comment of the day candidate right there. Perfect timing.

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Posted by Reasoned on Thursday, May 12, 2016 2:19 PM
Just proves there are people with a lot more time on their hands than me...God bless them. As for the "naked build concept", I suppose it has some merit in that you would clearly see any glaring fit issues with THAT kit. Which is the rub, I’ve read where two different modelers will review the exact same kit but will have differing reported issues with fit (e.g., wing root issues for one but not for the other). Perhaps this is due to the engineering of the mold or a particular run of the mold or perhaps it has something to do with the builder, who knows. At the end of the day, I guess that’s why we are modelers, we’re supposed to try and fix those minor warts as best we can (major surgery is another thing). However, if I’m paying $40 for an Eduard Bf 109 Profipack, I don’t think it unreasonable to expect a better “naked fit” than a $12 Revellogram.

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Posted by Bish on Thursday, May 12, 2016 12:36 PM

templar1099

Saw the topic, now I have to get dressed.

 

 

Its that an OPP's moment or i have just got out of bed moment. Big Smile

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by templar1099 on Thursday, May 12, 2016 12:22 PM

Saw the topic, now I have to get dressed.

"le plaisir delicieux et toujours nouveau d'une occupation inutile"

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Posted by Bish on Thursday, May 12, 2016 12:12 PM

Rob Gronovius
 
Moff

 

Couldn't you just fix the problems after review? Though I guess for something like a misalignment, it would be pretty hard to fix post-glue. 

 

 

 

 

With some tank kits, yes, easy enough to remove tracks, paint the vehicle, detail the areas you want, reassemble. For items that require interior paint, like cockpits, turret or engine areas, it might be tough or impossible. I guess if you assembled a car without gluing the major assemblies, you could finish it as normal.

One of the reasons why I stopped doing reviews or commenting on accuracy issues of available kits is because of the online bullying that occurs like is happening on that blog. It's not like I did it for money or free kits, I did it to help out other modelers and to pass on my observations so they could make a more informed decision. While not as profane or intense as those remarks, the same vibe here is the reason why I delete my posts after several days.

 

Rob, i have seen you make this coment before and i am afraid i have to respond and give you an honest view. I do think you are slightly over reacting about all this, and it is a real shame you decide to remove your posts and even a bigger shame you won't give people honest advice which many long for just because of the odd comment, which i must say i have seen very little here.

Just had to put in my 2 cents

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by Bish on Thursday, May 12, 2016 12:09 PM

I thought i would check out the link as i am always up for a good laugh, got about 1/10th down and got bored. Really, people need to get a life, go build some plastic.

 

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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