A build without any paint, so one can see any faults and blemishes/seam lines and such. The guy on Cybermodeler does this from time to time with new kits. You mentioned drama, like high school drama, so no, I won't go check out the link. The guy is sort of a male internet drama queen, and I don't like to see that mixed with modeling. Sounds like typical Facebook bs...

But the title does bring some rather horrid visions to mind.

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Rob Gronovius

The downside is the build kit is often "sacrificed" unless you are able to deconstruct it and finish it normally. Hard to get folks to volunteer doing naked builds on hot, new releases with kits they purchased out of pocket. Many manufacturers prefer to see their review kits showcased by a skilled modeler as a finished product as opposed to a bare plastic toylike item so you don't get the kit donations you'd like.

 

Nathan T

A build without any paint, so one can see any faults and blemishes/seam lines and such. The guy on Cybermodeler does this from time to time with new kits. You mentioned drama, like high school drama, so no, I won't go check out the link. The guy is sort of a male internet drama queen, and I don't like to see that mixed with modeling. Sounds like typical Facebook bs...

 

ikar01

But the title does bring some rather horrid visions to mind.

 

Interesting.Wow,I'm glad that none of my builds or opinions generate this kind of reaction.

Tojo72

Interesting.Wow,I'm glad that none of my builds or opinions generate this kind of reaction.

 

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Rob Gronovius

 

 

Moff

 

Couldn't you just fix the problems after review? Though I guess for something like a misalignment, it would be pretty hard to fix post-glue. 

 

 

 

 

 

With some tank kits, yes, easy enough to remove tracks, paint the vehicle, detail the areas you want, reassemble. For items that require interior paint, like cockpits, turret or engine areas, it might be tough or impossible. I guess if you assembled a car without gluing the major assemblies, you could finish it as normal.

One of the reasons why I stopped doing reviews or commenting on accuracy issues of available kits is because of the online bullying that occurs like is happening on that blog. It's not like I did it for money or free kits, I did it to help out other modelers and to pass on my observations so they could make a more informed decision. While not as profane or intense as those remarks, the same vibe here is the reason why I delete my posts after several days.

 

I'm so weak! I checked out the blog.

You can say that again guys! 

I enjoyed DoogsATX's builds when he posted here and still use a number of his techniques. I bookmarked his site but haven't checked it in some time though. 

There was a lot of griping about the heavy hand of the mods here a year or so ago when they cracked down on a number of people. No complaints from me, this is the kind of stuff that seems to happen whenever a site isn't moderated. Potty 'humour', F-bombs, political and religious/anti-religious rants, etc. Big thanks to Aaron and formerly Tim for keeping this site clean and sane. I don't get it either why well-educated intelligent people feel a need to act like two-year olds on the internet...   

Gamera

I don't get it either why well-educated intelligent people feel a need to act like two-year olds on the internet...   

Those two year-olds have quite a large vocabulary of profanities  

I have yet to hear a satisfying explanation for why people act the way they do on the internet. 

hogfanfs

I'm so weak! I checked out the blog.

 

I'm weaker - I'm actually subscribed to it 

Moff

 

 

I have yet to hear a satisfying explanation for why people act the way they do on the internet. 

 

Because they have no accountability. There are no consequences for their actions/words. I would imagine if they spoke like they type to the person's face, there would be consequences.

hogfanfs

 

 

Moff

 

 

I have yet to hear a satisfying explanation for why people act the way they do on the internet. 

 

 

 

 

 

Because they have no accountability. There are no consequences for their actions/words. I would imagine if they spoke like they type to the person face, there would be consequences.

 

In a million years they wouldn't speak face to face like that to anyone.

Very true Bruce and Tojo- unless they want a knuckle sandwich... 

We all forget at one time or another we built our first kit without slinging any paint. I know I did.

Be active on online forums and mail lists much more than about 5 years, or so, and you're bound to be a victim of these tiny-brained keyboard mashers.  I know, I've been attacked before.  Don't stoop to their level.  Stepping away from that forum or mail list for a while seems to be the best way to deal with it.  They'll find another forum to troll on before long, and things can get back to normal. 

Aside from reviews, I've done a couple of bare model builds.  It was kind of therapy to get away from the 'must detail everything' builds that were getting in the way of actually finishing a kit.  Build one without paint or any detail that's not contained in the box.  It's very theraputic, and in a way, quite fun and educational.  I concentrated on fit and finish, and actually finished a kit!  I took a kit I got on sale, and one that was common.  It turned out better, and more fun, than I originally thought!! 

Try it, just don't do it as a review, so the trolls stay away. 

Gene Beaird,
Pearland, Texas

Man... I ended up with a headache reading the hate. Now I'm not hugry for lunch anymore.

Hi Tojo 72 ;

    I was speaking about this very subject to a neighbor and friend this very morning . He and I have come to the conclusion that they use the distance and the internet as sort of an armor.

     Shoot , most folks anymore , don't even look you in the eye when they speak to you .That is if they aren't there with their face stuck in their electronics .

    i have a feeling that all said is true .Any behavior like that would NOT be really tolerated in person .  T.B.

I thought i would check out the link as i am always up for a good laugh, got about 1/10th down and got bored. Really, people need to get a life, go build some plastic.

Rob Gronovius

 

Moff

 

Couldn't you just fix the problems after review? Though I guess for something like a misalignment, it would be pretty hard to fix post-glue. 

 

 

 

 

 

With some tank kits, yes, easy enough to remove tracks, paint the vehicle, detail the areas you want, reassemble. For items that require interior paint, like cockpits, turret or engine areas, it might be tough or impossible. I guess if you assembled a car without gluing the major assemblies, you could finish it as normal.

One of the reasons why I stopped doing reviews or commenting on accuracy issues of available kits is because of the online bullying that occurs like is happening on that blog. It's not like I did it for money or free kits, I did it to help out other modelers and to pass on my observations so they could make a more informed decision. While not as profane or intense as those remarks, the same vibe here is the reason why I delete my posts after several days.

 

Rob, i have seen you make this coment before and i am afraid i have to respond and give you an honest view. I do think you are slightly over reacting about all this, and it is a real shame you decide to remove your posts and even a bigger shame you won't give people honest advice which many long for just because of the odd comment, which i must say i have seen very little here.

Just had to put in my

Saw the topic, now I have to get dressed.

templar1099

Saw the topic, now I have to get dressed.

 

Its that an OPP's moment or i have just got out of bed moment.

templar1099

Saw the topic, now I have to get dressed. 

Comment of the day candidate right there. Perfect timing.

BlackSheepTwoOneFour

We all forget at one time or another we built our first kit without slinging any paint. I know I did.

 

templar1099

Saw the topic, now I have to get dressed.

 

Your comment = the only reason I posted this thread.