Wedding carriage

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Life-Like-Hobby-Kits-Lafayette-Coach-Model-Kit-09671-/273177409586I have a kit of the Lafeyette coach that comes with the queen and prince made by life like.

There's the old Tamiya field kitchen too. Maybe the wheels are useful.

There was a wonderful series of kits back in the early 1960s of wagons. There was a stage coach, a chuck wagon, an ore transporter and probably others I don't remember. They were at a pretty large scale, maybe 3/4"-1'-0" or even larger.

THe wheels were one-piece cast plastic, everything else was a mixed lot of pre cut wood, wire, cloth, leather and cast metal accessories.

I've never been able to find anything on these since.

This old brain is kind of remembering a plastic model built many many years ago of a royal coach pulled by a couple of white horses.The coach was bright red with a LOT of gold trim. I remember building it and having my brother destroy it. So, I built a second one. Evidently it was easy to get at the time and reasonably priced. Can't remember the company that produced it. 

Jim    

GMorrison

There's the old Tamiya field kitchen too. Maybe the wheels are useful.

There was a wonderful series of kits back in the early 1960s of wagons. There was a stage coach, a chuck wagon, an ore transporter and probably others I don't remember. They were at a pretty large scale, maybe 3/4"-1'-0" or even larger.

THe wheels were one-piece cast plastic, everything else was a mixed lot of pre cut wood, wire, cloth, leather and cast metal accessories.

I've never been able to find anything on these since.

 

Indeed there are quite a few carriage and stagecoach models.

I did find one picture perfectly side-on that gives a profile to work from.  And another reasonable profile with a man standing in front of the carriage.  I guess I could guess they guy's height to estimate the scale.  I really need a back or front view, though.  I guess I could assume a standard wheel tread gauge.  I think it is 56 and a half inches.  Don't know for sure how close carriage builders stuck by that standard, but I think virtually all horse drawn vehicles did, didn't they ( so they would always be able to run in the ruts).

Don, the Coach is known as an Ascot Landau, it was of 5 built in the 1880's. I could not find any information of the dimensions. You could try contacting the Royal Collection Trust, they might be able to give you some info.

https://www.royalcollection.org.uk/about/royal-collection-trust/contact-us

Like I said, the one used by his grandparents is still readily available on eBay for little money.

Bish said,

Don, the Coach is known as an Ascot Landau, it was of 5 built in the 1880's. I could not find any information of the dimensions. You could try contacting the Royal Collection Trust, they might be able to give you some info.

https://www.royalcollection.org.uk/about/royal-collection-trust/contact-us

Thanks!  Great suggestion.  My query to them is sent.

Don Stauffer

Bish said,

Don, the Coach is known as an Ascot Landau, it was of 5 built in the 1880's. I could not find any information of the dimensions. You could try contacting the Royal Collection Trust, they might be able to give you some info.

https://www.royalcollection.org.uk/about/royal-collection-trust/contact-us

 

 

Thanks!  Great suggestion.  My query to them is sent.

 

That wasn't much help.  They said it does not belong to them and they have no info on it.  My best bet, I guess, is to find a square-on rear shot and assume a standard wheel tread.

Thats a pity. I know they are looking after by the Royal mews and that was on the same site, but there was no direct way of contacting them. I hope youcan work it out, would be really nice to see.

If you'd like to scratch-build a coach or wagon, you might find Armand Bayardi's resin wagon wheels useful.  This is his Civil War cannon wheel, for example:

http://armandbayardi.com/shop/civil-war-cannon-wheel/

but it could do for a carriage or coach wheel, too.

That one is in 1/24 scale but he has others, in other scales.  It's worth it to browse his site for the other products he makes, too.

Best regards,

Brad

the Baron

If you'd like to scratch-build a coach or wagon, you might find Armand Bayardi's resin wagon wheels useful.  This is his Civil War cannon wheel, for example:

http://armandbayardi.com/shop/civil-war-cannon-wheel/

but it could do for a carriage or coach wheel, too.

That one is in 1/24 scale but he has others, in other scales.  It's worth it to browse his site for the other products he makes, too.

Best regards,

Brad

 

Thanks, Brad, but the carriage is a light carriage, and has a very thin rim.  I don't mind scratching the wheels- scratching the whole thing, in fact, but the critical thing is getting the right dimensions.  Scale drawings would be neat, but I think I have enough photos now to do the job if I can just get a couple of key dimensions.  One thing I have learned now about the carraige from photos is that it is modified often!  But I am sure wheelbase and wheel tread do not change.

Buckingham has to have the equivilent of a public affairs office, they should be able to come up with pics or dimensions for it. 

Might also try some of the news agencies over there.

Have you looked at card?

The Coach you are thinking of still exists ! 

 I run across it from it from time to time . It's Pyro/Life-Like's edition before Lindberg ever got them. It was called the British Coronation Coach , Not real close but pretty when done . 

GMorrison

Have you looked at card?

 

I assume you mean the paper/card stock kits. I am not familiar enough with the vendors of those kits to try.  Any suggestions on which vendors might have such a subject?