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  • Member since
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  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Posted by Don Stauffer on Thursday, May 24, 2018 8:58 AM

GMorrison

Have you looked at card?

 

I assume you mean the paper/card stock kits. I am not familiar enough with the vendors of those kits to try.  Any suggestions on which vendors might have such a subject?

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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  • From: New Braunfels , Texas
Posted by Tanker - Builder on Wednesday, May 23, 2018 2:19 PM

The Coach you are thinking of still exists ! 

 I run across it from it from time to time . It's Pyro/Life-Like's edition before Lindberg ever got them. It was called the British Coronation Coach , Not real close but pretty when done . 

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Posted by GMorrison on Wednesday, May 23, 2018 12:40 PM

Have you looked at card?

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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  • From: Willamette Valley, Oregon
Posted by goldhammer on Wednesday, May 23, 2018 9:58 AM

Buckingham has to have the equivilent of a public affairs office, they should be able to come up with pics or dimensions for it. 

Might also try some of the news agencies over there.

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  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Posted by Don Stauffer on Wednesday, May 23, 2018 8:33 AM

the Baron

If you'd like to scratch-build a coach or wagon, you might find Armand Bayardi's resin wagon wheels useful.  This is his Civil War cannon wheel, for example:

http://armandbayardi.com/shop/civil-war-cannon-wheel/

but it could do for a carriage or coach wheel, too.

That one is in 1/24 scale but he has others, in other scales.  It's worth it to browse his site for the other products he makes, too.

Best regards,

Brad

 

Thanks, Brad, but the carriage is a light carriage, and has a very thin rim.  I don't mind scratching the wheels- scratching the whole thing, in fact, but the critical thing is getting the right dimensions.  Scale drawings would be neat, but I think I have enough photos now to do the job if I can just get a couple of key dimensions.  One thing I have learned now about the carraige from photos is that it is modified often!  But I am sure wheelbase and wheel tread do not change.

 

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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  • From: Bethlehem PA
Posted by the Baron on Tuesday, May 22, 2018 12:54 PM

If you'd like to scratch-build a coach or wagon, you might find Armand Bayardi's resin wagon wheels useful.  This is his Civil War cannon wheel, for example:

http://armandbayardi.com/shop/civil-war-cannon-wheel/

but it could do for a carriage or coach wheel, too.

That one is in 1/24 scale but he has others, in other scales.  It's worth it to browse his site for the other products he makes, too.

Best regards,

Brad

The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.

 

 

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Tuesday, May 22, 2018 9:02 AM

Thats a pity. I know they are looking after by the Royal mews and that was on the same site, but there was no direct way of contacting them. I hope youcan work it out, would be really nice to see.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Posted by Don Stauffer on Tuesday, May 22, 2018 8:38 AM

Don Stauffer

Bish said,

Don, the Coach is known as an Ascot Landau, it was of 5 built in the 1880's. I could not find any information of the dimensions. You could try contacting the Royal Collection Trust, they might be able to give you some info.

https://www.royalcollection.org.uk/about/royal-collection-trust/contact-us

 

 

Thanks!  Great suggestion.  My query to them is sent.

 

That wasn't much help.  They said it does not belong to them and they have no info on it.  My best bet, I guess, is to find a square-on rear shot and assume a standard wheel tread.

 

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Posted by Don Stauffer on Monday, May 21, 2018 8:23 AM

Bish said,

Don, the Coach is known as an Ascot Landau, it was of 5 built in the 1880's. I could not find any information of the dimensions. You could try contacting the Royal Collection Trust, they might be able to give you some info.

https://www.royalcollection.org.uk/about/royal-collection-trust/contact-us

 

 

Thanks!  Great suggestion.  My query to them is sent.

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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  • From: Fort Knox
Posted by Rob Gronovius on Sunday, May 20, 2018 11:39 AM

Like I said, the one used by his grandparents is still readily available on eBay for little money.

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Sunday, May 20, 2018 11:24 AM

Don, the Coach is known as an Ascot Landau, it was of 5 built in the 1880's. I could not find any information of the dimensions. You could try contacting the Royal Collection Trust, they might be able to give you some info.

https://www.royalcollection.org.uk/about/royal-collection-trust/contact-us

 

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Posted by Don Stauffer on Sunday, May 20, 2018 11:03 AM

Indeed there are quite a few carriage and stagecoach models.

I did find one picture perfectly side-on that gives a profile to work from.  And another reasonable profile with a man standing in front of the carriage.  I guess I could guess they guy's height to estimate the scale.  I really need a back or front view, though.  I guess I could assume a standard wheel tread gauge.  I think it is 56 and a half inches.  Don't know for sure how close carriage builders stuck by that standard, but I think virtually all horse drawn vehicles did, didn't they ( so they would always be able to run in the ruts).

 

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by GMorrison on Saturday, May 19, 2018 8:59 PM

GMorrison

There's the old Tamiya field kitchen too. Maybe the wheels are useful.

There was a wonderful series of kits back in the early 1960s of wagons. There was a stage coach, a chuck wagon, an ore transporter and probably others I don't remember. They were at a pretty large scale, maybe 3/4"-1'-0" or even larger.

THe wheels were one-piece cast plastic, everything else was a mixed lot of pre cut wood, wire, cloth, leather and cast metal accessories.

I've never been able to find anything on these since.

 

"Craft Master Wagons of the Old West". Highly recommended.

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

fox
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Posted by fox on Saturday, May 19, 2018 8:41 PM

This old brain is kind of remembering a plastic model built many many years ago of a royal coach pulled by a couple of white horses.The coach was bright red with a LOT of gold trim. I remember building it and having my brother destroy it. So, I built a second one. Evidently it was easy to get at the time and reasonably priced. Can't remember the company that produced it. 

Jim  Captain  

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Posted by GMorrison on Saturday, May 19, 2018 10:18 AM

There's the old Tamiya field kitchen too. Maybe the wheels are useful.

There was a wonderful series of kits back in the early 1960s of wagons. There was a stage coach, a chuck wagon, an ore transporter and probably others I don't remember. They were at a pretty large scale, maybe 3/4"-1'-0" or even larger.

THe wheels were one-piece cast plastic, everything else was a mixed lot of pre cut wood, wire, cloth, leather and cast metal accessories.

I've never been able to find anything on these since.

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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    December 2002
  • From: Fort Knox
Posted by Rob Gronovius on Saturday, May 19, 2018 9:52 AM

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Life-Like-Hobby-Kits-Lafayette-Coach-Model-Kit-09671-/273177409586I have a kit of the Lafeyette coach that comes with the queen and prince made by life like.

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  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Wedding carriage
Posted by Don Stauffer on Saturday, May 19, 2018 9:25 AM

Watched parts of the Royal wedding this morning.  Loved that coach!

My love of cars and trucks has expanded in recent years to include their predecessors.  I have built a stagecoach kit and an artillery piece + limber, and am not adverse to scratchbuilding.  But where in the world would I find scale drawings.  I have been able to make drawings from good photos (perpendicular to major axes of vehicle) of racing cars, so hoping to find enough pictures.  But I would like to reference it to a known scale, and this requires knowing some well defined dimension (wheelbase, wheel tread, or wheel diameter).

Any ideas on how to find either scale drawings or dimensions on this vehicle.  The narrator at least said it was a landau style, I believe.

 

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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