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Lifelike decals cracking. What do I do?

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Lifelike decals cracking. What do I do?
Posted by Jimd0586 on Thursday, November 08, 2018 7:57 AM

Good morning. I posted three weeks ago about bringing detail out on raised panel lines and got some great feedback, so thank you all!

 

I am building the old Hasegawa 1/32 Spitfire Mk Vb for a friend in London. I wanted to give it a "Yankee" flavor (as I am from the US), so I purchased "Lifelike" decals to model Sgt. Jack Evans of No. 71 Squadron, Eagle Squadron. Last night I put on the first decals, the two roundels on the upper side of each wing. I noticed the decals were thick. Anyway, I applied some micro set to the model, slid the decals on, then applied more micro sol and micro set back and forth as I always do with a brush. This strategy has worked fine in the past... The brushing (while very light strokes on my part) actually created a few chips in the decal. At the time I was ticked but figured I would just cover up the cracks with dabs of silver paint to imitate chipped paint.

It was late and I tried to smooth out air bubbles with a cotton swab. Eventually I went to bed hoping the micro set would pull in the decal and tighten it.

This morning I see some light cracking in the decal. It's not the end of the world but it does look unsightly. I have two questions:

1) Why did the decals do this?

2) Any artistic weathering suggestions to try and best cover this up?

My guess is that the decals are thicker. My using the Micro set before the micro sol caused the stiff and thick decal to shrink when it wasn't yet soft. That is the best guess I can come up with.

 I will try and upload a pic here in another post.

 

Anyway, any advice for future decal applying would be great... and most importantly, how best do I hide the roundel cracking on this model? Thanks!

 

Jim

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Posted by Jimd0586 on Thursday, November 08, 2018 11:24 AM

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Thursday, November 08, 2018 12:28 PM

I have used the Micro Sol and Set and find it to be weak and not snuggling the decal like it should specially if thick. I do not go back and forth with the brush. I slip the decal in place, blot out then apply the solution and let it set up and I do not touch anything till dry. Then I will see if it needs further applications specially if bubbles get trapped which are punctured with a pin or the tip of a #11 blade then more solution is applied if needed.

My go to solution is Solvaset that is very strong but works like magic. 

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Posted by GMorrison on Thursday, November 08, 2018 12:58 PM

It could be that the decal is old.

I try not to use Solva Set. It will cause "wrinkling".

It has it's place, but IMO not as a normal process.

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Thursday, November 08, 2018 1:35 PM

GMorrison

 

I try not to use Solva Set. It will cause "wrinkling".

 

Been using it for eons without an issue.

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Posted by GMorrison on Thursday, November 08, 2018 2:07 PM

Eons old bottle LOL. 

Sorry my mistake. I meant Micro Sol, not Micro Set. Yes I use Set all the time.

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Posted by Jimd0586 on Friday, November 09, 2018 8:26 AM

Thanks guys. I tried to post a pic of the decals on the model but it didn't pass muster. Not sure how you guys post pictures on here. In the meantime, any ideas how best to cover up the cracks? Is there a weathering technique that may work best? Like a lite airbrushed coat of something dark over the entire wing or some other strategy?

 

 

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Posted by Jay Jay on Friday, November 09, 2018 1:38 PM

If you apply a wash over your cracked decals you'll only enhance the cracks ,they will be even more visable, like panel lines are after a wash.  I'm not sure that your decal problem is even fixable. You may have to remove the culprits and start over with better decals.

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Saturday, November 10, 2018 10:56 AM
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Posted by littletimmy on Sunday, November 11, 2018 4:12 PM

I clicked on your photo link and I have a few idea's.

1: Take a good look at the remaining decal's on the sheet. Do they have the Decal film printed over the decal ? I had a decal sheet that did not get the clear film printed over the decal's . and my decal's broke apart the same way your's did.

I believe your decal sheet is just Ink printed on the paper. No "Carrier Film" 

2: Your decal's may be old.  Decal's will also do this when they reach the end of their "Service life"

Either way, your best bet, is to remove the offending decal's and get a new set.

 Dont worry about the thumbprint, paint it Rust , and call it "Battle Damage".

  

 

    

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