Recasting for Personal Use, Customizing

Recasting for your own personal use has always been acceptable in modeling circles. Even the late Shep Paine used recasting of kit parts and figures to build his amazing dioramas.

Now are you planning on making modifications to an old figure and then recast it for other purposes than your own personal use?

Just a question on this,just to understand if I may.some one buys one figure,say from Alpine,but then wants more of them for his own use,so he duplicates the original to make six more for his own use.Thats considered acceptable ? Why,is he not robbing the sale of six more figures from Alpine ? 

Not condemning anyone or defending a viewpoint ,just want to understand the thinking,do I have it right ?

Easy to understand.  You BOUGHT the figures from Alpine.  You are not leasing them.  As long as it is for your own personal use and not selling them, it is ok.  Remember the 2017 Supreme Court decision on the people's right to own their products, lock, stock, and software.

Tojo72

Just a question on this,just to understand if I may.some one buys one figure,say from Alpine,but then wants more of them for his own use,so he duplicates the original to make six more for his own use.Thats considered acceptable ? Why,is he not robbing the sale of six more figures from Alpine ? 

Not condemning anyone or defending a viewpoint ,just want to understand the thinking,do I have it right ?

what's a cassette .

richs26

Remember the 2017 Supreme Court decision on the people's right to own their products, lock, stock, and software.

Can you give more information on this decision? I haven't heard of it.

Rob Gronovius

 

 

Tojo72

Just a question on this,just to understand if I may.some one buys one figure,say from Alpine,but then wants more of them for his own use,so he duplicates the original to make six more for his own use.Thats considered acceptable ? Why,is he not robbing the sale of six more figures from Alpine ? 

Not condemning anyone or defending a viewpoint ,just want to understand the thinking,do I have it right ?

 

 

 

It's the same concept in music. If I buy the vinyl record, I can make a cassette recording of it to play in my car or on my walkman. I cannot make a copy to sell though. Nor do I have to buy the cassette version if I wanted to play it in my car.

 

 

Thank you Rob,makes sense,a law would really be unenforceable 

steve5

what's a cassette .

 

Its like an 8-track or Beta-max tape 

Tojo72

 

 

steve5

what's a cassette .

 

 

 

 

Its like an 8-track or Beta-max tape 

 

Noticed Steve5 didn't want to know what a vinyl record was; thankfully I can say the Grammaphone was before my time.

That's because vinyl is making a comeback thanks to hipsters and music aficionados.

Est.1961

 

 

Tojo72

 

 

steve5

what's a cassette .

 

 

 

 

Its like an 8-track or Beta-max tape 

 

 

 

 

Noticed Steve5 didn't want to know what a vinyl record was; thankfully I can say the Grammaphone was before my time.

 

When I was young, I don't believe records were vinyl.  They were real brittle, made from something similar to bakelite, and 78 rpm.  The vinyl, I believe, came with the 45s and long play discs.

Rob Gronovius

That's because vinyl is making a comeback thanks to hipsters and music aficionados.

 

I understand the nostalgia, but I would argue the sound quality.  Digitization noise is well below the noise of the surface noise of a needle and grooves.

Don Stauffer

I understand the nostalgia, but I would argue the sound quality.  Digitization noise is well below the noise of the surface noise of a needle and grooves.

Fun story:

I worked with a guy that claimed to have hearing above the range of normal human hearing. He claimed he could even hear hysteresis loss in an audio transformer. In his eyes, CDs are a scourge to the audio world. He went so far as to get radio tube amplifiers, superior he says.

The man is a big music fan. One day, I passed his cubicle and he calls me in for a listen to his latest music find. He had a CD playing through desktop speakers. Immediately, I say, what is wrong with your CD player? It doesn't sound right. He looks at me, mystified. What do you mean, he asks. I told him it sounds distorted. He looks at me and says, yeah it's probably a bad connection. At which he begins giggling the speaker wire resulting in a lot of distortion. Then he says, very good! I am impressed you could hear that. I am thinking, how could you NOT!

I walked away thinking... and you can hear hysteresis losses.

The superiority of vinyl records was a concept when they were replaced with analog magnetic tape recordings. Even then, it depended on a lot of other parameters.

I am no expert, but I do think digital recording has changed all of that.

As for the original question, my own opinion is closer to what Tojo originally pointed to. 

If I buy an object and replicate it because I want multiple of it, that would not be the intent of the original creator.

Rob Gronovius

That's because vinyl is making a comeback thanks to hipsters and music aficionados.

 

We were the orginal hipsters before they were. They're the ones missed out how we to listened to music before 8 track, cassettes, and beta....

We all still held on to our LPs and 45s records. Now it's time these companies come out with the big stereos we used to have back in the 80's. Those little phographs don't even come close compare to the big ones. LOL!!

Hey;

 Someone mentioned a Gramaphone . What's wrong with them ? We thought the scratches and groans were part of the music . Besides it was a nice looking piece of Furniture !

GMorrison

As for the original question, my own opinion is closer to what Tojo originally pointed to. 

If I buy an object and replicate it because I want multiple of it, that would not be the intent of the original creator.

Rob Gronovius

 

 

GMorrison

As for the original question, my own opinion is closer to what Tojo originally pointed to. 

If I buy an object and replicate it because I want multiple of it, that would not be the intent of the original creator.

 

 

 

Recasting for personal use has been around for ages, Shep Paine talked about it in his decades old books. It started with needing multiple copies of things like 5 gallon cans, drums, arms for additional poses, etc.

 

 

My understanding is that Verlinden started his resin figures using the old 1/32 Airfix multipose figures as his starting point. Of course they were altered from the originals... 

Well, if you can afford buying the extra models, then go for it. But, if you don't have much money, then recasting for your self would be ok. |As long as you don't sell any of the kits.