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Posted by Don Stauffer on Sunday, December 20, 2020 8:18 AM

Real G

I remember seeing 747 and F-4 Phantom kits which had blocks of wood for the main components and metal detail parts.  IIRC the profiles were pre-cut, but they included cardstock templates to DIY the final contours.  The box art for the kits had the models in finished wood and polished metal.

Well beyond my skillset in 4th grade!  Probably beyond most consumers today too.

 Model airplanes were an almost universal hobby by boys during and for quite a few years after the war.
 

I was getting model kits for presents from relatives by second grade.  I got the hang of the solid wood models within a year, but it took another year before I got the hang of the stick and tissue flying kits.

 

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by Real G on Saturday, December 19, 2020 3:37 PM

I remember seeing 747 and F-4 Phantom kits which had blocks of wood for the main components and metal detail parts.  IIRC the profiles were pre-cut, but they included cardstock templates to DIY the final contours.  The box art for the kits had the models in finished wood and polished metal.

Well beyond my skillset in 4th grade!  Probably beyond most consumers today too.

“Ya ya ya, unicorn papoi!”

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Posted by philo426 on Saturday, December 19, 2020 12:55 PM

My dad told me about the kits that came with blocks that you had to carve to shape.Came in   handy when it came time to carve my Pinewood Derby car in '74! it came out nice painted it silver with airplane decals.It lost a wheel in the race lol!

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Posted by Tanker-Builder on Saturday, December 19, 2020 12:12 PM

Don;

 I never mentioned them. Why? I didn't think you were old enough to remember them!

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Saturday, December 19, 2020 8:53 AM

Okay, they were really not paper models but does anyone remember the old car kits with wood and a lot of die-cut card stock?  They also had plastic wheels/tires and steering wheels.

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by Tanker-Builder on Friday, December 18, 2020 1:43 PM

Hey:

         Gregbale! This is just some info for you. Plastic kit parts in near scales work great for Paper Models. I discovered this quite by accident. Two of my ships didn't quite measure up to 1.400 after being built. They were a wee bit large. Well.A sheet of Generic 1/350 rails stairs and ladders worked great!

      I have been cheating on some by using Faller and Kibri parts on the ships with cranes.It looks like it was made for it.The scales? Why 1/87 and 1/160 for the parts!

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Posted by gregbale on Wednesday, December 16, 2020 11:42 AM

Real G
A quick question to the paper modeling community - why scales like 1/33?

I've occasionally wondered about the 1/33 'standard' as well.

The good news is that since there are some vac canopies available for those 1/33 paper card models, some are indeed adaptable to our plastic 1/32 kits without much difficulty.

It's a potential resource a lot of plastic builders don't know about.

Greg

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"Every time you correct me on my grammar I love you a little fewer."
 
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Posted by philo426 on Wednesday, December 16, 2020 11:42 AM

Thanks!I appreciate it!

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Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, December 16, 2020 11:25 AM

Well, I did build a paper ship but when I put her in the bathtub she came apart...

 

All joking aside that 189 Philo is very impressive and the tractors you posted John and Pawel are amazing!  

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Real G on Wednesday, December 16, 2020 10:39 AM

Daaaaaaaaaang...  Pawel that tractor is amazing!

A friend sent me a postcard with a Pfalz D.III model pattern on it.  I made copies and tried it out.  It was a simple model, but challenging to me.  I did end up making a couple and manually coloring them in different schemes.  But it was obvious that I had no talent for paper modeling!

When IPMS made a separate category for paper models at the Nationals, there were some incredible entries.  There was a large scale Fw-190 that was REALLY nice.

A quick question to the paper modeling community - why scales like 1/33?  Are the models "sheet scale", where the patterns are made to fit on standard sizes of paper?  Inquiring minds want to know.

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Posted by Mrchntmarine on Wednesday, December 16, 2020 10:28 AM

id be interested in a tractor group purchase.

Keep on modeling!

All the best,

William

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Wednesday, December 16, 2020 7:38 AM

Tanker-Builder

Oh Boy!

 Does that mean I can download V'Ger?

 

yep

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by seastallion53 on Tuesday, December 15, 2020 9:34 PM
Thanks don, that is probably where I got it.
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Posted by Tanker-Builder on Tuesday, December 15, 2020 11:01 AM

Oh Boy!

 Does that mean I can download V'Ger?

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Tuesday, December 15, 2020 8:33 AM

seastallion53

Years ago i built a hubble telescope paper model i printed for free off some site i can't remember.model has since been destroyed.

 

NASA has free pdfs of a bunch of their satellites and launch vehicles.

 

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by seastallion53 on Monday, December 14, 2020 6:35 PM

Years ago i built a hubble telescope paper model i printed for free off some site i can't remember.model has since been destroyed.

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Posted by Mrchntmarine on Monday, December 14, 2020 12:14 PM

Pawel

Many people say that, but I don't think it's such a great idea. One thing - if you have a good paper model, it's worth building out of paper, and the result can be satisfying. And then when you build out of sheet plastic it behaves different than paper, you would have to make a lot of changes in the design of the kit - making many parts differently - might be that a good set of plans would make more sense as a starting point than a paper model.

Mopar Madness - I'm not so sure about the wheels, but the rest of that John Deere is just a well done paper model, tke a closer look at the photos!

But check this out - this is one amazing paper model:

Of course it has been painted up and weathered.

More here: http://www.kartonowki.pl/modele-galeria/model/5897,ursus-c-330

Thanks for reading and have a nice day

Paweł

 

Pawel - one a scale of difficulty, 1 being beginner, 10 advanced, can you rate this tractor build?  Tks Wm

Keep on modeling!

All the best,

William

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Posted by Tanker-Builder on Monday, December 14, 2020 10:07 AM

Hi;

      I can safely tell you this though. Paper or( Card) models can be as challenging as you wish. The thing to remember, Craftsmen and Women, These models require a very, very Sharp eye. And sharp X-Acto blades and Scissors

    You don't cut on either side of the line for ANY reason, unless told to. You Must cut On The Line on all parts. Why? because if you don't the parts after glueing, won't fit.

     These have been figured out to the finest, almost can't see it line. Fold on the line, Cut on the line. Beautiful Models await! For a final comment. I specifically recommend in cutting tools not regularly seen on a modelers bench. Any and all sizes of FISKAR scissors 

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Posted by scottrc on Monday, December 14, 2020 9:30 AM

I keep telling myself that I want to do a paper or card model ship.  The ones I see done by masters of the trade have me in awe as to what they can do with paper and color.

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Posted by Pawel on Sunday, December 13, 2020 4:47 PM

Hello!

Don - I tried to locate a (pirate) download for you, but no luck so far. But a legal copy can be had here for a little more than 15$ plus shipping:

http://www.answer.pl/pl/home/3478-ciagnik-ursus-c-330.html

If you decided to order I think it would be best if I contacted the publisher for you, because the english translation of the site looks a little buggy. But I ordered models from them before and got them with no problem whatsoever, so if anybody wanted to order something I'd be glad to help.

Have a nice day

Paweł

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Sunday, December 13, 2020 8:26 AM

Space Ranger

Paper models can be used as templates for scratchbuilding in sheet plastic.

 

I do that, though not just in plastic.  I use the paper for patterns for plastic, wood, and metal.  Each material has its optimum use.  For curved areas I prefer wood, and plastic for sheet, though if a sheet is to have a wood grain I use thin plywood.  Some parts need strength and I then use sheet or rod brass or aluminum.  Working on a Link trainer now- built it first in plastic and using more printouts as patterns for the mullti-media version. 

Question- is that tractor availalbe for download?

As to the original question, yes, I have built several, including some Great Lakes bulk carriers.

During WW2 Kix cereal offered paper model kits as premiums.  A boxtop purchased choice of P-40 or Zero.  Penny used as noseweight.  They did fly, though not as well as balsa kits of the time.

 

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Posted by Keyserj on Sunday, December 13, 2020 7:59 AM

Mopar Madness

Is that John Deere scratchbuilt or from a pattern?!

 

I am not sure how he builds it because he only posts pictures of his complete models.

 

Pawel- That is an amazing model for sure.

"Why don't you knock it off with them negative waves?"- Oddball

 

John

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Posted by Pawel on Sunday, December 13, 2020 3:10 AM

Many people say that, but I don't think it's such a great idea. One thing - if you have a good paper model, it's worth building out of paper, and the result can be satisfying. And then when you build out of sheet plastic it behaves different than paper, you would have to make a lot of changes in the design of the kit - making many parts differently - might be that a good set of plans would make more sense as a starting point than a paper model.

Mopar Madness - I'm not so sure about the wheels, but the rest of that John Deere is just a well done paper model, tke a closer look at the photos!

But check this out - this is one amazing paper model:

Of course it has been painted up and weathered.

More here: http://www.kartonowki.pl/modele-galeria/model/5897,ursus-c-330

Thanks for reading and have a nice day

Paweł

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

www.vietnam.net.pl

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Posted by Space Ranger on Saturday, December 12, 2020 6:04 PM

Paper models can be used as templates for scratchbuilding in sheet plastic.

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Posted by philo426 on Saturday, December 12, 2020 5:38 PM

Yes that is Why I missed that !well at least they look pretty impressive due to their size!

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Posted by Pawel on Saturday, December 12, 2020 5:19 PM

philo426
the kit does not tell you ,but I backed most of the paper parts with 1/16 basswood for strength and to keep the wings straight

Philo - the kit does specifically tell you to strenghten designated parts with 1 mm cardboard - but it does so in Polish, so I wouldn't be surprised that it didn't quite come through...

Mały Modelarz kits usually have all the bulkheads, spars and so on, printed on a sheet of very thin paper, the same the instructions are printed on, so it's kinda obvious they have to be strenghtened somehow. Another popular convention is to mark the part numbers with a star/asterisk - * - meaning they have to be backed up with 1mm (or 0,5mm - depending on what the instructions say) cardboard.

Good luck with your paper model builds!

Paweł

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

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Posted by Mopar Madness on Saturday, December 12, 2020 3:07 PM

Is that John Deere scratchbuilt or from a pattern?!

Chad

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At the plate: 1/48 Airfix Bf109 & 1/35 Tamiya Famo

On deck: Who knows!

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Posted by philo426 on Saturday, December 12, 2020 2:33 PM

So true

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Posted by Keyserj on Saturday, December 12, 2020 2:31 PM

I have never done one but it is amazing what people are able to make out of paper. 

A guy on another forum I am a part of makes some spectacular paper models like the one below.

 

"Why don't you knock it off with them negative waves?"- Oddball

 

John

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