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  • Member since
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  • From: New Braunfels, Texas
Attention ! - Aircraft, Armor, Car and Ship Builders ! !
Posted by Tanker-Builder on Sunday, April 11, 2021 8:07 PM

Okay:

      So your new at this. Who Cares? You do right? You want to build the best model you've ever built, now that you have three or four good attempts under your belt! Right? Then why are you afraid to try P.E.?

      Yes! it's Daunting, Scary and Down Right Difficult, Not so, my modeling friends of whatever age! Okay, How do you do it? Well, first settle on the Model you want to build. Do your research and get the Kit, Paint and Books gathered together. Oh, Then Don't forget aftermarket Decals if your model needs them. Now for the P.E.

     You are going to order it AFTER you do a tutorial. Your tutorial can be found in most good Stores selling a general line of craft supplies. They are called "Metal Earth Models By Fascinations" These little Metal kits come in all levels of ability from very simple to very, very difficult!

     You are going to invest in at least four. First one the simplest. You'll need a good pair of Smooth Jawed Needle nose pliars and either a Toenail Nipper or P.E. ( Read Sprue Cutters) and a small container of Gel Super glue. You don't really need the glue, But if you break a tab off it helps!

      Yes, my friends every Metal Earth kit is polished stainless, that uses tabs and flow chart instructions to go together! The instructions are numbered for every part. Now this is not the case with Photo etched material UNLESS it comes with the kit, and they have alternate part numbers for you to use for that!

      But you need to be comfortable, snipping, folding and assembling each part of these kits before you graduate to P.E.. Why? Well here's a good fer instance.The 1/350 P.E. from Eduard for Trumpeter's model of the U.S.S. North Carolina has you do things you didn't think you could with little pieces of metal! And it is a thinner version of the material in the Metal Earth kits. Now a great deal more Awesome sets, they are! Are those from Gold Medal Models,Toms Modelworks ,Steel Navy and many others.

       The trick for Ship builders and Aircraft, and yes, Armor modelers is scale. What scale do you prefer? The smaller the scale the more difficulty you might have with the P.E. Why? Well the sheer size of the small parts in 1/700 would be indeed daunting to someone who's never done a ship in that scale , much less the P.E.. Plus, remember P.E. in many cases has to be glued together!

       That's another reason I recommend the  Metal earth kits. I have been doing models for years and have used everything from E.Z.line and Box and Cabinet nails and everything else that would work for the effect I wanted. I even used to do ship rails in the liners from mens shirt collars because you could lay out the lines and scrape them in with anX-Acto drawn backwards on the surface then clean that off, then over lay the lines with Colored artist's ink.Wipe that gently off and you have the rail and post lines left behind on a clear see through material.

 I never did anything else except the spinning props. A circle of the plastic with faded blade appearances was a trick my art teacher taught me on paper. Then I had to do one in plastic to prove to her I paid attention.

    If you do Metal earth, You will be more comfortable investing in the P.E. for your project. Also remember even they can slow down the fastest. I used to do them in one evening.The latest one I am doing is the Off-Shore oil rig with the Tanker. the scale is so small it has slowed me down considerably. the Tanker is only five inches long when done!

     So see, even I have to slow down sometimes. Try the Metal earth. Get your project set up and P.E. to your heart's content. Oh, In case you haven't figured it out there's a good reason for this recommendation. You learn how to Hold, Fold, Bend and Curve metal, like you would find yourself doing with P.E. So it is good training because it is stiffer and therefore a wee bit more of a challenge to do. But it is GOOD TRAINING!

  • Member since
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  • From: Denver
Posted by tankboy51 on Sunday, April 11, 2021 9:58 PM

Sorry, I prefer polystyrene plastic models.  Opening the box, taking out the various sprues, opening the instructions, checking out the decals, snipping the pieces off and glueing the parts together are hobby I like.  I also  enjoy painting them.  I have done a couple of all metal kits, interesting, but I like 1/35 scale armor and 1/48 prop planes, mostly WW2, a few jets and current armor.  I think I'll stay with them.  I am in Internatioal Plastic Modelers Society, or International P#%s And Moan Society.

  • Member since
    August 2014
  • From: Willamette Valley, Oregon
Posted by goldhammer on Sunday, April 11, 2021 10:17 PM

I think TB was suggesting that the Metal Earth kits were more for practice in bending, assembling and gluing the dreaded PE used on styrene kits.  I'll second his thoughts, it is an easier step than destroying a high dollar set of PE if someone has no experience with it.  Gave me a little more confidence than going in cold, but I can still destroy the stuff in a hurry.

  • Member since
    January 2020
  • From: Maryland
Posted by wpwar11 on Monday, April 12, 2021 5:39 AM

Not a bad idea to practice on those metal kits if you plan on using PE.  I've done a handful of builds with PE details for the cockpit.   My feeling is PE isn't worth the squeeze.  Skilled detail painting and proper weathering yields a better result.  There's also better aftermarket products available now.  Quick set IP comes to mind.

  • Member since
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  • From: Hatboro, PA
Posted by Justinryan215 on Monday, April 12, 2021 6:30 AM

This lighthouse is a metal earth kit...it was a fun build!

 

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"...failure to do anything because someone else can do better makes us rather dull and lazy..."

Mortal as I am,I know that I am born for a day.  But when I follow at my pleasure the serried multitude of the stars in their circular course, my feet no longer touch the Earth...

 

  • Member since
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  • From: Western North Carolina
Posted by Tojo72 on Monday, April 12, 2021 7:16 AM

Thanks but no thanks TB

I grudgingly add a little PE to my kits,so I won't be doing a whole kit made of PE

  • Member since
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  • From: the redlands Fl
Posted by crown r n7 on Monday, April 12, 2021 7:41 AM

me too, as for me if it comes in the kit I'll use them.

 

 

 Nick.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Monday, April 12, 2021 7:53 AM

I like them for the occasional "getaway" from plastic, but then again, I'm nuts.

Steve

Building a kit from your stash is like cutting a head off a Hydra, two more take it's place.

 

 

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  • Member since
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  • From: Western North Carolina
Posted by Tojo72 on Monday, April 12, 2021 8:14 AM

modelcrazy

I like them for the occasional "getaway" from plastic, but then again, I'm nuts.

 

Yeah, your the guy that hollows out 1/350 planes and adds PE to the guts Crying

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Posted by modelcrazy on Monday, April 12, 2021 9:16 AM

Tojo72

 

 
modelcrazy

I like them for the occasional "getaway" from plastic, but then again, I'm nuts.

 

 

 

Yeah, your the guy that hollows out 1/350 planes and adds PE to the guts Crying

 

Just 23 more to go.

Steve

Building a kit from your stash is like cutting a head off a Hydra, two more take it's place.

 

 

http://www.spamodeler.com/forum/

  • Member since
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  • From: New Braunfels, Texas
Posted by Tanker-Builder on Monday, April 12, 2021 9:53 AM

Oh My;

 I didn't think anyone still called it that, Tankboy. Now there is something else.

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  • From: Denver
Posted by tankboy51 on Monday, April 12, 2021 10:29 AM

I only say that about IPMS in a very joking manner. They were not that bad. We just like to complain about models don't we?  I have been a member and officer for about 40 years, go figure.  As far as PE goes, I've been using it off and on since the dawn of time.  Not anymore,  I like doing things OTB.  I've got so much PE sitting around it is ridiculous.

  • Member since
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  • From: New Braunfels, Texas
Posted by Tanker-Builder on Monday, April 12, 2021 10:52 AM

Tankboy51;

    This is funny that you should mention this. I too have P.E. floating around and have yet to find in my stash the Ship or Tank or even Plane It was meant for! I think it was because I kept the P.E. in a big three ring Bonder( Well, a couple of them) and the models got lost or whatever and the P.E was in a different place in those binders.

   I have four sets in four sizes for the 1941 Arizona and I only have one Arizona in 1/200 for which I don't have a set, Go figure!

 When C.A.M.S( the ORIGINAL Model Society) From Jacks Hobby Shop in Jacksonville , Arkansas, got our I.P.M.S. status this was a norm. Complain about the rules, Complain about whatever. It's human nature, even in a joking manner

  • Member since
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  • From: New Braunfels, Texas
Posted by Tanker-Builder on Monday, April 12, 2021 10:56 AM

Modelcrazy;

     How high is your Eye doctors bill? Doing stuff like that has been rattling around this old gord for some time. I don't think I'll pull the trigger on that though. It is fun to see what you accomplish with an Optivisor though, isn't it?

  • Member since
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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Monday, April 12, 2021 11:16 AM

I like the Eduard ZOOM sets. Nice pre-painted instrument panel, seat-belts, and a few cockpit details to dress up your aircraft kit. Pretty simple to apply and about ten bucks US- nice entry drug into adding PE parts. 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

  • Member since
    October 2019
  • From: New Braunfels, Texas
Posted by Tanker-Builder on Monday, April 12, 2021 6:30 PM

Hi Gamera;

 You are so right. I got their set for the P-51-D. I used them on the on the old Monogram 1/48 version. had to modify a little, but gorgeous results. My friend from the Tuskegee Airmen loved it. He's gone now, But his Son kept the plane!

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