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What kind of decal is this?

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What kind of decal is this?
Posted by castelnuovo on Saturday, November 13, 2021 12:57 AM

I have never seen a decal like this. This is for Trumpeter's MiG 15 bis Fagot B. The instructions refer to it as "film". It is not your clasic decal on paper but is a transparent soft plastic sheet.

How do I us it? Do I cut it out or the classic dip in water way?

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  • From: USA
Posted by keavdog on Saturday, November 13, 2021 1:01 AM

Cut it out and usually sandwhich between the IP and a PE overlay

Thanks,

John

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Posted by keavdog on Saturday, November 13, 2021 1:12 AM

I have this kit as well and did a bit of poking around on the web and found this review on modelingmadness https://modelingmadness.com/review/korean/cleavermig15preview.htm

 

     My only real complaint is the instrument panel.  This is done as a "sandwich" of an opaque part, with a photo-print panel like an Eduard kit, and a clear part to go over it - the problem is that the clear part has no engravings for the instruments, which will make painting around the instruments a bit difficult.  I am sure I will make my own panel to go over the photo-print from .010 Evergreen sheet. 

Thanks,

John

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Posted by rocketman2000 on Saturday, November 13, 2021 9:40 AM

There should be two pieces of the panel, a back piece and a front piece.  Glue the decal to the back of the front piece with a transparent glue or white glue, being careful to register it so that the dial faces line up with holes on the front piece.  Then glue it to back piece with white glue.  Do NOT use solvent glue for either step.

 

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by keavdog on Saturday, November 13, 2021 10:09 AM

The problem with this kit is the front piece is a clear flat piece with no relief

Thanks,

John

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Posted by EdGrune on Saturday, November 13, 2021 11:17 AM

Looks like you may have an out of production example, judging from the product number.  The Eduard site doesn't generate any hits.

If you look at the instructions for the current product

https://www.eduard.com/out/media/fe232.pdf

you can see that you are to sandwich the photo film between several PE pieces.  Do you have those PE parts? Or were they not included in the OOP detail set?

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Posted by Eaglecash867 on Saturday, November 13, 2021 11:17 AM

keavdog

The problem with this kit is the front piece is a clear flat piece with no relief

 
That's a bummer.  Normally the whole purpose of the clear acetate printed underlay is to give the appearance of glass.  They felt a clear, unembossed overlay was the way to go?  Yikes.  Trumpeter strikes again I guess.  I saw the author's note at the end of the review you linked, where he says his ended up in the circular file...which is where my Trumpeter Frogfoot is getting really close to going.  Not happy at all with the quality and fit of their stuff.

"You can have my illegal fireworks when you pry them from my cold, dead fingers...which are...over there somewhere."

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Posted by castelnuovo on Saturday, November 13, 2021 7:17 PM

Thanks all. That is a good review, keavdog.

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Posted by rocketman2000 on Sunday, November 14, 2021 9:01 AM

Okay, a plain transparent sheet will still work, though you will have a glossy black panel rather than a flat black one.  However, if you are a good hand painter you can carefully paint around the instruments with flat black.  Also, adding toggle switches is pretty easy.   Drill a small hole at switch location with a pin vise and cut a piece of fine wire.  Glue the wire(s) in the holes.  I find it easier to cut the wire longer (easier to handle) and cut them to length after the glue sets.

Craft stores like HL and Michaels carry some great wire for these, in the beading sections.  It is a fine copper wire plated to look like chrome.

 

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by Chemteacher on Sunday, November 14, 2021 10:07 AM
Would it work if you paint the backing plate white and then just Elmer’s glue it to the panel and omit the clear cover?

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  • From: Mansfield, TX
Posted by EdGrune on Sunday, November 14, 2021 10:46 AM

No, the background needs to be painted 'instrument panel' color.  The dial faces themselves could be painted white

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