ok, look at this "pro" and his models, LOL

QUOTE: Originally posted by Wingman_kz I haven't looked at the items in question and don't intend to.

Aw, come on...you have to look.


click to supersize

Supersize the image and take a look at the paint on the exhaust diffusers.

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BTW, technically the term you would use here libel, not slander. Slander is oral defamation, libel is written (or published) defamation. Message boards are considered a form of publishing and therefore falls under libel.

defamation - http://dictionary.law.com/definition2.asp?selected=458
slander - http://dictionary.law.com/definition2.asp?selected=1969
libel - http://dictionary.law.com/definition2.asp?selected=1153
fair comment - http://dictionary.law.com/definition2.asp?selected=723

Yeh, I started to add *libelous* but I wasn't sure. For the record, I'm not angry, just voicing my opinion. And no, I'm not going to look.

He's right when he says "what a price!", yes, exactly, what an extortionate price for something that looks like it just came out from under a turd, please explain what a socity is?

I think he only owned four different paints when he made that Apache.

white, black, puke green, olive green.

At least we know where the missing chromate green from the P-38 went.

O.K guys.
I went back to the pics again.
The builder has the basics and fundimentals down.
What i see missing is the skills to finish them out.
wash's,drybrushing,pastels and such.
I personally would give that person a rank of novice.
I also would advise that modeler to work on their finishing skills.

This person could use "OUR" encouragements not our critisism.

Yes the person did over sell themselves in the bios of the kits but we should look beyond that part.

Actually, that puke green looks more like a bad glue job. For those who don't believe me, I can show you some models where that has happened!

You are thinking of this the wrong way James. This isn't a hobbyist, this is someone claiming to be a professional selling his models for top dollar on a very public auction site.

Would you encourage the Yugo car company to do better if they claimed every car was hand built by a team of professionals and only made with the finest qualities. That there Yugos were in line with Lamborghini. Then when you get one, the thing is made from cardboard.

I, too, refuse to look (but I have an opinion, anyway).

ACTUALLY, he IS a Professional... did anyone bother to look up the definition of that while they had their dictionary open?

" participating for gain or livelihood in an activity or field of endeavor often engaged in by amateurs"

Seriously, though... did anyone notice the glue smears in the Apache rocket pods?? (Or was that "weathering?? LOL) OK, so I looked.

To me, this isn't libel... it's discussion of something that is public domain. What, we aren't allowed to critique online photos of model kits? "Liberal" is more like it...
SUE me? Who AM I, anyway? Does anyone know? Try doing a trace, and then try proving it.

I've seen all this talk before, and there's no reason to walk on eggshells here. Maybe the suggestion that it's libelous could be construed as "threat of personal harm..."

FITTER

I really think it's time to retire this subject. Everyone obviously isn't going to agree, so let's move on to a happier subject.

Keep cool....This guy ' ve a great sense of humor !

RonUSMC.
I agree with you in princaple.
However I cannot join in on bashing a person that I do not personaly know.
Yes the modeler is of limited skills.
Yes the prices are very high for a kit of that level
Yes the sales pitch is over the top.
That does not make it ok to make such attacks that I've seen in this thread.

It's clear that this person does not posess a modeler's soul.
You would think that from the sales pitch that this person deeply cared about their work.
A quality that I did not see in the photos.

"Let the buyer beware!"

Hmm...

I think it might be time to lock this thread and move on to other things.

I'll give everyone 24 hours for closing statements and then we'll adjourn this thread.

In closing I just want to say...

If the glove doesn't fit, you must acquit!

QUOTE: Originally posted by RonUSMC If the glove doesn't fit, you must acquit!

Took a couple of seconds, but now I got it.

AAAAH! The topic won't die! I'm not going to bash the English or his claim as a 30 year modeler. Heck my first model was at age 5, so I guess I'm a 38 year modeler! Anyway, my beef is that he claims they represent aircraft from Operation Iraqi Freedom. The F-15, for example has markings from a Japanese squadron(Samurai Head on inside of starboard tail)! It is obviously a ploy to strike while the iron's hot regarding OIF and throw out anything with OIF attached and prey on the ignorant, acurate or not (F-15 nose gear is acually backwards!) That's my opinion and it's just that.

I would like to say that this guy is on to something though.

Offering professionaly (novice)built models online.
What a concept.
If you wanted to sell models that you build ,that would be the way to do it.
The next step will be custom built models online for sale.

Okay, time to pull down the shades, turn off the lights and put this one to bed.