Ways to measure dimensional accuracy?

Thanks DURR. 

I desperately need to update it.  I have so many new pictures I need to get on there from the last year or two.  I'm going to have a separate section which will have all my tank and aircraft pictures as well, I have hundreds from just the past 3 months. 

espin1 i am with you on the  if it looks like the real thing it is ok with me

  i checked out your www very nice   it looks like you have a great family there

Yann Solo wrote:

I fully understand Scott.  The more documentation I have about a subject, the more details and accuracy I expect from the kit.  I'm not too fussy about some little dimensional issues yet but if it does appear out of place like the suspension on the M3 Lee, I must admit I will probably buy the aftermarket kit. To answer your original question, it all depends on how much you want to pay.  A simple mechanical caliper can be of great help and you can have one for a good price at any hardware store.

Take a close look.  Your dial is out of calibration. 

phoenix7187 wrote:

Accuracy is a funny thing. Some don't care about it at all. On the flip side there are those modelers that accuracy is everything. But I do like when a model shows up and has a thousand added/scratch built parts on it the guy talks about how accurate it is only to find out he placed the fuselage crosses a scale 3 feet too far foward. What a way to have your bubble busted  I did this by accident this weekend

Doh!    Bummer man.    Happens to the best of us.

Basically I do the same. Dial veriner (sp) calipers or I have highly accurate scale drawing of some aircraft I can make a comparsion too. I also have a steel mechinest rule that goes down to 1/64 of an inch. Scale drawing and actual pics are good for determining shape problems and such like props, spinners, poorly shaped gun hood on G-10's.

Accuracy is a funny thing. Some don't care about it at all. On the flip side there are those modelers that accuracy is everything. But I do like when a model shows up and has a thousand added/scratch built parts on it the guy talks about how accurate it is only to find out he placed the fuselage crosses a scale 3 feet too far foward. What a way to have your bubble busted  I did this by accident this weekend

DrewH wrote:

You said it Yann! I wasn't going to, glad you did!! He isn't but he is going to count them rivets! Now, how do we keep the ego from inflating?

hey, it's all about context 

now let's see... that bow armor plate is .0001 mm to thick.... 

I fully understand Scott.  The more documentation I have about a subject, the more details and accuracy I expect from the kit.  I'm not too fussy about some little dimensional issues yet but if it does appear out of place like the suspension on the M3 Lee, I must admit I will probably buy the aftermarket kit.

To answer your original question, it all depends on how much you want to pay.  A simple mechanical caliper can be of great help and you can have one for a good price at any hardware store.

Yann Solo wrote:

First :  espins1 wrote: First off, let me state right up front that I'm not a rivet counter....  Then:  espins1 wrote: Are they're any good tools you'd recommend for use in measuring the length of the kit fuselage or wings for example?  What's up Scott?  Do you have other inner battle like that or any dilema you want to share with us. Come on .... let it out of the bag ..... there is no shame in being a rivet counter!

Well, there were two reasons why I was asking. 

I'd like to learn the best way to measure so it will help me when judging accuracy when I write future kit reviews and build write ups.  Also, as my modeling skills continue to evolve and get better, scratchbuilding is starting to enter the picture for me, so I'd like to be able to have a good theoretical starting point for designing accurately sized parts. 

It's funny how as I get better at modeling, accuracy is slowly becoming more and more important to me.  Hopefully I won't go off the deep end and will keep my standards at a sane level. 

First :

espins1 wrote:

First off, let me state right up front that I'm not a rivet counter....

Then:

espins1 wrote:

Are they're any good tools you'd recommend for use in measuring the length of the kit fuselage or wings for example?

What's up Scott?  Do you have other inner battle like that or any dilema you want to share with us.

Come on .... let it out of the bag ..... there is no shame in being a rivet counter!

EdGrune wrote:

My single favorite tool for measuring models is a pair of draftsman's dividers.   When I need to measure a length of railing to cut -- instead of trying to guestimate with a ruler, I simply adjust the thumbwheel to spread the points to the desired measurement and transfer it directly to the railing.

That's pretty much all I use. In addition to what Ed uses it for, I also find it quite handy in rigging biplanes.

I use most of what's already been mentioned as well. Though I'd say the 2 items I use most would be a basic 6" steel rule and a 6" dial caliper. I baught one of those 1/35 rulers that converts right there on the ruler but haven't really used it yet. Maybe when I lay out more structural pieces for dios.

And I must admit the graduations along my cutting mat has been utilized as well.

My single favorite tool for measuring models is a pair of draftsman's dividers.   When I need to measure a length of railing to cut -- instead of trying to guestimate with a ruler, I simply adjust the thumbwheel to spread the points to the desired measurement and transfer it directly to the railing.  

The dividers are also good for stepping off a constant distance (i.e. rivit spacing) or marking a constant distance offset from an irregular surface. 

I got mine from the mechanical drawing tools in the local Staples office supply store,  but I've seen them in Hobby Lobby or other craft stores too.  They are similar to the circle-drawing compass which you used in elementary school math -- but have 2 points instead of a pencil lead.   Pay a bit more to get a better quality set.

One favorite tool is a small metal work square. The ones you use to draw 90 deg angles. I place the square on a sheet of paper, put the square flat side down, and gently move it to the end of the wing lets say. Make a light pencil mark at the base then go to the other side and repeat. Then you measure the distance "over" the pencil lines. Remember the utside of the line was against the square that was touching the outer edge of the wing. It's best to use a digital calliper for that to be precise. After that it's really a matter of simple math.

I had to do that building the Tamiya P-47 to figure out which prop I needed. If you need more help, drop me an email.