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Posted by grandadjohn on Sunday, August 24, 2008 3:04 PM
The Phoenix Police Department used NOTAR's for many years, receiving them new right after manufacturing started until they retired them a couple of years ago. The only problem they had with them was they were underpowered, same as the Army found when they tested them.
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Posted by Loach Driver on Sunday, August 24, 2008 8:50 AM

I can't say for sure, but that photo looks like they (MD Helicopters) are possibly doing autorotations to the water to certify the fixed floats being fitted to the MD520N. Not sure why the helicopter is so 'tail-low' though. Normally the helicopter is levelled out just before touch down. It definetly shows the advantages of the NOTAR system.

 

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Posted by ww2modeler on Saturday, August 23, 2008 7:15 PM
 Melgyver wrote:

David,

Eliminating the tail rotor has several advantages.  You are removing a high rpm component that is subect to vibration problems, eliminating a gear box and tail rotor assembly that require time changes and overhauls.  Eliminating a high noise source and danger area to people and objects.  A tail rotor strike could ruin everybody's day!  There is probably a weight and power reduction savings also.

Cool, thanks for the info.

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Posted by Melgyver on Saturday, August 23, 2008 12:15 PM

David,

Eliminating the tail rotor has several advantages.  You are removing a high rpm component that is subect to vibration problems, eliminating a gear box and tail rotor assembly that require time changes and overhauls.  Eliminating a high noise source and danger area to people and objects.  A tail rotor strike could ruin everybody's day!  There is probably a weight and power reduction savings also.

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Posted by ww2modeler on Saturday, August 23, 2008 10:48 AM

Thats sort of interesting. Is there an advantage to that system over a tail rotor?

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Posted by Melgyver on Saturday, August 23, 2008 10:31 AM

David,

There is a blower in the base of the tail boom that blows air out a controlable vent in the rear of the tail boom that counter acts the torgue instead of a conventional tail rotor. 

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Posted by ww2modeler on Saturday, August 23, 2008 10:12 AM

So do the fins on the back provide stability instead of a tail rotor?

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Posted by HeavyArty on Saturday, August 23, 2008 9:32 AM
No idea what that exact helicopter is used for.  The NOTAR is a variation on the MD500 series.  It was originally an experimental item, but is now mainstream.  It cuts down on the number of moving parts and allows things like the tail in the water to occur.

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Posted by HeavyArty on Saturday, August 23, 2008 9:31 AM
No idea what that exact helicopter is used for.  The NOTAR is a variation on the MD500 series.  It was originally an experimental item, but is now mainstream.  It cuts down on the number of mooving parts and allows things like the tail in the water to occur.

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Posted by ww2modeler on Saturday, August 23, 2008 8:53 AM

 HeavyArty wrote:
Yup, MD520 NOTAR w/floats it is.  Pretty cool helo.

Cool, thanks for the info. Does anyone know what it was used for?

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Posted by HeavyArty on Saturday, August 23, 2008 1:41 AM
Yup, MD520 NOTAR w/floats it is.  Pretty cool helo.

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Posted by minimortar on Friday, August 22, 2008 9:52 PM

Looks like an MD520 with floats. Interesting that the tail is in the water as there's a lot of moving parts still going on inside the tail-boom.

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Posted by smokinguns3 on Friday, August 22, 2008 8:13 PM
no tail rotor ill bet you its a notar helo.
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Interesting Helicopter *pic*
Posted by ww2modeler on Friday, August 22, 2008 7:47 PM

Does anyone know what this is exactly, just found it browsing through. Looks sorta interesting.

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