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Sikorsky R-4
Posted by BlackWolf3945 on Wednesday, March 26, 2003 9:49 PM
Does anyone know of some good references for the Sikorsky R-4? I can see myself building one in the not too distant future. And since I'm not a rotor head I just haven't paid alotta mind to what's out there for this one.

I'm going to be looking for the works, cockpit details, general details and colors & markings. I'd like to do one of the earliest operational Egg-Beaters as used by the 1st Air Commando Group in the CBI.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 26, 2003 10:17 PM
Some very basic info:

http://www.wpafb.af.mil/museum/air_power/ap23.htm

A nice drawing:

http://home.t-online.de/home/airbornegrafix/HistoricAircraft/sikorsky.htm

There is a lot more out there
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Posted by Cobrahistorian on Wednesday, March 26, 2003 10:56 PM
Blackwolf,

The 1st Air Commando book by Schiffer Books has some really good shots of the R-4s used in the CBI.

Hope that helps!
"1-6 is in hot"
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Posted by BlackWolf3945 on Wednesday, March 26, 2003 11:33 PM
Hmmm... I'm gonna have to track that book down. Squadron.com, here I come!! Tongue [:P]

Thanks Cobra!

Claymore, yeah saw the USAF Museum page on the R-4. I just checked it out again, and I realized that this thing weighed only slightly more than my old car, Josephine! And I do have to complete a couple searches for other websites. Google is a godsend! (Even though I can't seem to find what I want this time around!)

Anyone else? Especially looking for interior, landing gear and rotor detail.

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Posted by Cobrahistorian on Thursday, March 27, 2003 11:39 AM
Blackwolf,

I forgot to mention, the New England Air Museum in Windsor Locks, CT (just north of Hartford) has a completely restored one too.

Jon
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Posted by BlackWolf3945 on Thursday, March 27, 2003 8:35 PM
Hmmm... is that a recent addition to their collection? A few of us took a trip to Sturbridge Mass. for a Regional show a year or so back and made a trip to this museum. I don't recall seeing one there and their website doesn't show it either.
Sad [:(]

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Posted by Cobrahistorian on Thursday, March 27, 2003 10:48 PM
Blackwolf,

Its in their civilian hangar hanging from the ceiling over the HH-52A.

Jon
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Posted by BlackWolf3945 on Friday, March 28, 2003 12:57 AM
Wow... I'll have to ask some of the guys if they remember it, cuz I don't! Tongue [:P] I must be going blind! Although, I just developed this fascination with the Egg Beater recently, so it may have escaped my attention. Anyhoo, it'll be a while before this kit comes out, so I have plenty of time to gather stuff .

Anyone know if the R-4 on display at the USAF Museum is currently hanging as well?

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Posted by midnightprowler on Friday, March 28, 2003 4:13 AM
Steve, what kit are you talking about? I would like to build a R-4, but don't know of any kits.
Lee

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Posted by BlackWolf3945 on Friday, March 28, 2003 12:51 PM
Hey Lee,

Well, I haven't been sworn to secrecy or anything so...

I had a short exchange with Joe Myers of Accurate Miniatures on another forum. He was asking for "requests", so to speak. I guess he was trying to get a gauge of what we all wanted.

I had mentioned several subjects that I'd like to see in the future including some more CanAm & World Championship of Makes cars (Lola T70 could be on the way - I know, this ain't the car forum, but I'm excited about this one), and one of my suggestions for an aviation subject was the R-4.

Got an email the following day from Joe, and he basically wanted to know if I was psycho, er... psychic because there's an R-4 in the works and, according to him, it's about 80% finished. (If I remember correctly).

Anyhoo, I think we can reasonably expect to see a 48th Egg Beater in the next year or two, or three... Tongue [:P]

I just hope it doesn't go the way of their Beaufighters and DML's A-26's.

The only "decent" kit of the R-4 that I know of at this point is MPM's 72nd offering. It's a typical MPM job and I was almost gonna build it until I heard about the 48th kit. I can wait!

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Posted by FITTER on Friday, March 28, 2003 6:28 PM
Here is another model of the R-4:

http://www.sikorskyarchives.com/r4.pdf

FITTER out
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Posted by Cobrahistorian on Friday, March 28, 2003 6:48 PM
Fitter,

COOL MODEL!!!!!

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, March 28, 2003 11:10 PM
I've got a copy of the Special Hobby R-4 kit. It's a combination of injected, resin and photo etched with a vacuformed canopy. I have not had time to build it yet but it looks like a good kit. Anyone build one yet?
Paul
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Posted by BlackWolf3945 on Saturday, March 29, 2003 2:10 AM
Picket,

Special Hobby did an R-4? What scale is it, 72nd?

Fitter,

You're a card! Tongue [:P]

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, March 30, 2003 3:59 PM
Blackwolf ... the Special Hobby kit is 48th. They also have a Mil Mi-1 out. I have them both but have not had time to start construction. According to my notes, they are about $18 each. I would not recommend them to beginners but I believe they's make a fine kit for someone with experience.
Paul
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Posted by BlackWolf3945 on Sunday, March 30, 2003 5:48 PM
Hmmm... the local shop has the Mi-1 (which I've been hemming and hawing over for awhile!), but I wasn't aware of the 48th R-4.

Yeah, all the Czech kits (MPM, LTD, Czech Model, Special Hobby, Pavla etc.) are pretty ugly. I've been trying to get brave for a while now and build the LTD IAR-80/81 and LaGG-3. Thankfully, Mirage came out with a P.11c so I can relegate the LTD kits to trade bait or burnt-out airfield diorama duty! Tongue [:P]

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Posted by DAVEY5 on Friday, April 18, 2003 8:57 PM
Fun kit 1/48 special hobby Modelexpo-online.com 17.00. This kit finishes out
nice.Helps to have scratch ability or good kit to learn scratch skills.Vac um fusaloge, but all and all a fun kit.
if you need more nfo Dhi69@aol.com
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Posted by DAVEY5 on Friday, April 18, 2003 9:00 PM
Fun kit 1/48 special hobby Modelexpo-online.com 17.00. This kit finishes out
nice.Helps to have scratch ability or good kit to learn scratch skills.Vac um fusaloge, but all and all a fun kit.
if you need more nfo Dhi69@aol.com
To fly is great To hover is divine ...........
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