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Armed MBB 105 Captured Iraqi Helicopter

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Armed MBB 105 Captured Iraqi Helicopter
Posted by SnakeDoctor on Tuesday, October 2, 2007 1:41 AM

I was in OIF in 2003 at the Baghdad airport when two Iraqi helicopters were brought to the airfield. The gun mounted under the belly is a 20mm. I don't know where they were found at and where they ended up however I suspect that you might see them flying with a US flag on the side some day.

 

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Posted by rotorwash on Tuesday, October 2, 2007 6:18 AM

Great pic!  Thanks for sharing.  How you been doin' these days?

    Ray

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Posted by AH1Wsnake on Tuesday, October 2, 2007 1:13 PM

Wow, outstanding picture! Thanks for sharing.

Does anyone here have any photos or color profiles of these aircraft actually in Iraqi service? This scheme gives me an entirely new idea for the little 1/48 BO-105 kit I have lying around. I'd love to see what would have been mounted on the side armament pylons.

Andy

p.s. snakedoctor, were you able to get any more walkaround shots of these birds at the time?

 

 

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Posted by supercobra on Tuesday, October 2, 2007 8:22 PM

These look pretty trashed.  I remember seeing pictures of a row of new looking BK-117s with the tailbooms cut off.  Story was we did it so the insurgents couldn't fly them against us.  What are the chances of that happening?  I think we did it so we could sell/give them Hueys.

Great picture - thanks for sharing. 

 

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Posted by Cobrahistorian on Tuesday, October 2, 2007 9:04 PM

Great pic indeed!  I was just looking over the Revell 48th scale kit the other day.  May have to pick one up now...

 

 

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Posted by RotorheadTX on Wednesday, October 3, 2007 5:55 PM
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Posted by AH1Wsnake on Wednesday, October 3, 2007 8:28 PM

Sweet. So they made it back to the US! Alright, there has got to be more pictures floating around somewhere, then.... especially pics of that gun system, which is what I'd most need.

Jon, this sounds like your turf. Any word in the grapevine on whether these will be museum pieces? (Or maybe refurbished for other......tasks)

Andy

 

 

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Posted by rotorwash on Wednesday, October 3, 2007 11:26 PM

Ok, it's not Iraqi, but man can this guy fly!  I just love NOE!

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=105395

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Posted by empeter on Wednesday, October 3, 2007 11:36 PM

 AH1Wsnake wrote:
...there has got to be more pictures floating around somewhere, then.... especially pics of that gun system, which is what I'd most need.

The Iraqi's obtained the BO-105 from several sources, including Spain. Spanish versions were modified with the raised skids and 20 mm cannon just like their own. They called it the Bo.105GSH. If you don't find pics of the Iraqi aircraft, pics of Spanish aircraft should suffice.

Here are a few, unfortunately without the cannon.

 

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Posted by rotorwash on Thursday, October 4, 2007 12:15 AM

Here's a couple of BO-105's from ALLIED FORCES SOUTHERN EUROPE Exercise Dynamic Mix 2002 with the 20mm cannon.

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As you can see, I found a way to include a HUEY in this thread!

   Ray
 


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Posted by chopperfan on Thursday, October 4, 2007 9:29 AM
 rotorwash wrote:

Ok, it's not Iraqi, but man can this guy fly!  I just love NOE!

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=105395

That is neat, Ray. Thumbs Up [tup] But NOE ain't all that new. Big Smile [:D]

I used to work for the Tulare Mosquito Abatement District back in 1970 and Ronnie Light, rest his soul, flew like that 6 days a week. Now I know the military was surely doing it then too. And I don't mean this as a slight to any of our fine pilot friends out there. Just saying that civilian ag pilots have been doing for quite awhile, too. Wink [;)]

Randie [C):-)]Agape Models Without them? The men on the ground would have to work a lot harder. You can help. Please keep 'em flying! http://www.airtanker.com/
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Posted by rotorwash on Thursday, October 4, 2007 10:37 AM

Randie,

  I know what you mean, but I don't have any movies of dad buzzing the trees for VC!

        Ray

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Posted by chopperfan on Thursday, October 4, 2007 12:53 PM
I hear you, Ray. Big Smile [:D]
Randie [C):-)]Agape Models Without them? The men on the ground would have to work a lot harder. You can help. Please keep 'em flying! http://www.airtanker.com/
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Posted by SnakeDoctor on Thursday, October 4, 2007 8:15 PM

These were shots taken at an airfield we were at in northern Kuwait. Also one more of the two 105's

 

 

 

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Posted by rotorwash on Thursday, October 4, 2007 9:03 PM

Who did the 412 belong to?

   Ray
 

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Posted by SnakeDoctor on Thursday, October 4, 2007 9:34 PM

Hi Ray:

I don't know for sure. The folks at Langley make it difficult to track who owns or operates these aircraft. I'm sure the registration number could be tracked however was it leased ? ,and what company actually is leasing it might be a good novel someday. Some civilian littlebird models also came to the Baghdad airport while I was there. You could always tell the government guys as they had all the nice equipment Smile [:)]

 

Ed

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Posted by rotorwash on Thursday, October 4, 2007 9:41 PM

Thanks, Ed.  How are things going these days?  You still in Taiwan?

      Ray
 

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Posted by SnakeDoctor on Thursday, October 4, 2007 10:08 PM

Hi Ray:

Yes I am still here. This will be my last full year here and then I head back to the factory. I just toured our hangar and we have three W's in various stages of teardown , and some Taiwan IDF's , a couple of other jet trainers, and a Kamov counter rotating bladed helicopter operated by Vancouver Island Helicopters. I am going to miss being this close to aircraft, after 45 years. BUT I get all excited about models.

 

Ed

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Posted by chopperfan on Friday, October 5, 2007 8:01 AM
 rotorwash wrote:

Who did the 412 belong to?

   Ray
 

Ray. This is what the data base shows for the 412.

EASTERN SHORE HOLDINGS INC
12 CLUB HOUSE DR
REHOBOTH BEACH, DELAWARE 19971-9679
SUSSEX
UNITED STATES

Hope this helps. 

Randie [C):-)]Agape Models Without them? The men on the ground would have to work a lot harder. You can help. Please keep 'em flying! http://www.airtanker.com/
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Posted by rotorwash on Friday, October 5, 2007 7:22 PM

Randie,

   Thanks for the info!

           Ray
 

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