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Posted by Stern0 on Monday, February 2, 2009 11:38 PM
That is very nice work! That whole layout is fantastic. Yes the pictures help alot....Thank you for sharing.Big Smile [:D]
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Posted by Bodge on Monday, February 2, 2009 1:33 PM

Hi SternO, an easy way for ripples and other water effects is put your grasses etc in then pour clear resin and when final pour has hardened off get some pva glue and a cocktail stick and dipping the stick into the glue then drag it across the surface to build up ripples . you can do straight or circles and with this method you have good control over the desired effect by adding more or less for size of ripple effect required. This method looks strange to begin with as the glue is white but it turns clear when dry. Hope this helps, Andy.

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Posted by Stern0 on Monday, February 2, 2009 12:24 PM
Thanks AJ... Im afraid that there are alot of grass work and I would hate to wait for the pour, working time seems to be limited also..having my plants in place would be a little easier. I have not worked with this before, just didnt know how thin it was....Thank you all for the feedback.Big Smile [:D]
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Posted by ajlafleche on Monday, February 2, 2009 12:11 PM
I put my "reeds" in place in the base, then poured in the epoxy. It's viscous enough to fill in the spaces.

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Monday, February 2, 2009 11:57 AM

Working time is going to depend on the amount of hardener you use, but my average time is about 15 minutes before it sets up too much for pushing and pulling...

As for the move, thanks.. I'm doing a little bit at time all week long, lol... One of the benefits of being the building super...

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Posted by Stern0 on Monday, February 2, 2009 11:15 AM

 Hans von Hammer wrote:
Personally, I drill and "plant" vegetation in the water...

Thank you Col. That sounds like a good option...about how long do you have to work with the 2 part?  Hope your move went well!!!

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Monday, February 2, 2009 9:50 AM
Personally, I drill and "plant" vegetation in the water...

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Posted by Stern0 on Monday, February 2, 2009 9:37 AM

AJ, Col. VH, What water I'm using is not at question, your recomendations have helped me make a decision regarding that and I am definatly going to use the water effects....Was wondering if the 2 part will flow between reeds and grass, or do I have to install veg afterwards?...It will be a tight group of reeds, cattails, grass and weeds...Col. the water effects runs $14.99 at the LHSBig Smile [:D]

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Monday, February 2, 2009 8:55 AM
Might have to give that stuff a try...  What's the price range?

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Posted by ajlafleche on Monday, February 2, 2009 8:52 AM
Go back to the stuff I posted in the previous thread. I used two part epoxy for the base of the water then added splashes and ripples with Woodland Scenics "Water Effests"

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Monday, February 2, 2009 7:52 AM
I always used plaster for running/moving water...  You can gain some transparency and depth with other effects like whitewater and ripples with silicone caulk over the plaster...

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Posted by Stern0 on Saturday, January 31, 2009 3:28 PM

will do lineman, From what I have gathered I think that casting resin will do for any water, but I may use the WS water effect for the motion and ripples ect...I will keep ya postedSmile [:)]

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Posted by lineman on Saturday, January 31, 2009 2:08 PM
I'm also thinking of using water in my next diorama. I have used the woodland scenic stuff before. It works well for standing water only. I'd like to try casting resin this time so please keep me posted on what you use and how it works.
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Posted by Stern0 on Saturday, January 31, 2009 9:04 AM
Thank you Doog for the speedy reply! This will be my first attempt at running water and still weighing the options. Drying time will be my biggest concern with putting in the weeds...Ill need alot of time...I will read up on the products and see which better suits my needs, thanks again!Big Smile [:D]
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Posted by the doog on Saturday, January 31, 2009 8:36 AM

I don;t have much experience with anything beyond casting regular clear pools of standing water, but I would think that if you want to show "flow" you would have ot get something that doesn't necessairly self-level?

I know that Woodland Scenics has some product that is specifically used to model falling or flowing water effects. I would think that you'd have to pour the water first, and then texture it, and then quickly sink in the reeds.

You'd have to read up on the usage of that product first of course, and see what the working time is, and then tailor your technique to that.

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Another "water" Question
Posted by Stern0 on Saturday, January 31, 2009 8:20 AM
I'm laying a little ground work on a dio and was wondering how simulated water flows around a tight group of weeds and or grass, should this be sunk into the "water" after the pour or will it get the effect desired already in place. Does this differ with the type used? Im leaning toward a clear casting resin as opposed to the woodland scenic stuff. Any input much appreciated
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