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Alley project WIP (Some pics of the finished box dio)

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Alley project WIP (Some pics of the finished box dio)
Posted by vespa boy on Thursday, March 12, 2009 5:04 PM

Last year I spent a lot of time travelling around the country giving lectures and staying in hotel rooms with the worst views...service alleys, electrical substations, brick walls etc. So I wanted to incorporate that experience into a box diorama so that the viewer would look out of a hotel window into a lane-way. A reversal of the usual box diorama where you are looking into an interior space.

 Because this was different from my other projects in that it wasn't a piece of ground, I thought I would also include components that fellow modellers and friends had made...a blank brick wall by Howard Hazelton, a photo etch fire escape by Ken Hamilton, an empty bottle by Virgil Suarez. Usually I scratch build everything, but I wanted to honour my diorama buddies with this build.

 

I did a rough layout to check the composition and the idea...A fire escape, lots of plumbing and electrical lines as well as a trash chute.

And then set about cutting up Howard's beatifully cast hydrocal walls and casting some bands of plaster  to fit the architecture I had in mind

 

Here is how the shadow box starts to take shape. There will just be a small window through which the viewer has to peer and see the lane outside. The front wall, which in this photo only comes half way up, will cover the entire face and the small window will be the only way to see the dio.

 Ken had some 1/24 scale fire escapes etched to his specs and kindly sent me a set. If you haven't read his book on dioramas, then you are missing out on something special.

And I set about detailing and modifying it

1. by making individual rafts and edging them

2. Assembling the rafts to make platforms

 3. And then adding railings and ladders. Its still not finished but it will give you an idea of where it is headed

 

And I made some doors to exit onto the fire escapes using brass sheet glued onto a plastic core

 

Its a long way from being finished. I'll update as the build progresses. All thoughts/comments are welcome. Thanks for looking.

 

 

 

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Posted by psstoff995 on Thursday, March 12, 2009 5:36 PM

AMAZING as usual!!!

Always enjoy vespa boy updates! Big Smile [:D] I can't wait-

Any website or contact information with these 1/24 scale items? They look amazing. I thought it was strange to see you going outside the box (or inside in this caseTongue [:P]) and using pre-fab. materials but your modifications look really nice so far and I'm glad that you're doing this as a tribute to you're dio buddies. Are most of your dios in or around 1/24 scale? Always wondered. I really like the shadow box idea as well.

If you're going to completely seal it off from outside lighting, I think it would look amazing if you added some kind of "street light" bleeding in from the near by road into this dark alleyway- maybe an interior light on in the apt. across the alley or something?

But very very cool.

-Chris

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Posted by PaintsWithBrush on Thursday, March 12, 2009 7:36 PM
What an interesting concept, viewing exclusively through the window. Your builds always fascinate me. I look forward to seeing the progression of this one. Thank you for posting it.

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Posted by psstoff995 on Thursday, March 12, 2009 7:42 PM
I was wondering vespa- will the viewing wall with the window on it look like the interior wall of the hotel room? I think that'd be really cool- some campy hotel wallpaper and poorly painted trim Tongue [:P]

-Chris

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Posted by Wirraway on Friday, March 13, 2009 4:27 AM
Beautiful work on the fire escapes.

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Posted by camo junkie on Friday, March 13, 2009 4:42 AM
really nice Thumbs Up [tup]. love the details.
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Posted by subfixer on Friday, March 13, 2009 7:23 AM
You and your work truly amaze me, thanks for including us.

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Posted by vespa boy on Friday, March 13, 2009 8:32 AM

Thanks for the kind words gentlemen. Its always good to get feedback on a work in progress.

PO'ed: You are right about having the areas around the window looking like a hotel with wall paper/pastel paint and a below window air conditioner. The bay window looks a little nice. I may go for something more boxy.

Also I don't know if any of the parts that I used are commercially available We all make and share bits and pieces. I'll ask and see what they say.

Lastly I work in 1/24 scale. It makes measuring easy 1'=1/2" or in a pinch 1mm=1")

PaintswithBrush: you sound very familiar. Have we crossed paths on another forum?

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Posted by russianfist on Friday, March 13, 2009 10:30 AM

I must say that the simplicity of your work has such a great quality.

The "less is more" approach is wonderful.

If I may ask, how did you get the tubes on the hand railing to bend without folding?

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Posted by psstoff995 on Friday, March 13, 2009 10:55 AM

Thanks for filling me in vespa- that's very cool can't wait to see this progress, maybe I'll pick up a hint or two- as for all you guys making and sharing parts- that's really cool- that PE turned out really really nice and the bricks look dead on- I like your additions of the stonework.

The scale choise makes sense to me!

-Chris

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Friday, March 13, 2009 8:30 PM
Always liked your stuff....  Even if you do seem to spend an inordinate amount of time staring out of windows..Big Smile [:D]

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Posted by vespa boy on Sunday, March 15, 2009 8:18 AM
 russianfist wrote:

If I may ask, how did you get the tubes on the hand railing to bend without folding?

The railings are brass wire, so I didn't have to worry about them folding (I used needle nosed pliers to form the corners). When I do all the piping on the side of the building it will be a concern. I have seen that micromark offers two options:1.  a small pipe bender 2. tightly wound springs into which you insert the tubing and then when the tubing is bent it apparently doesn't fold. I am going to buy both and see which works better

 

HVH It worked for Jimmy Stewart in Rear Window. I hope it will work for me!

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Posted by Stern0 on Sunday, March 15, 2009 9:18 AM
Awsome work VB....fire escapes and door are top notch...super realistic..can't wait for more!Big Smile [:D]
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Posted by dpty_dawg_ca on Thursday, March 19, 2009 9:51 PM

Hi NK

Another great build you've git going. Your attention to detail is incredable. I'm looking forward to see this thing progress.

Carl

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Posted by jtrace214 on Friday, March 20, 2009 2:20 PM

Vespa, I have used the spring ones from Micro-Mark they work real good. I  used them on one of Revels chopper kits made a set of "ape hangers" with them outta alum. tubing Should work just as good with brass I assume.

 

John

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, March 21, 2009 8:47 AM
Oh, wow...this could be my fav piece you've done...reminds me of all those tenament buildings we think of in the large cities, like New York, Philadelphia, Kharkov, etc...sublime...also a good WIP for all those folks who have questions about shadow-boxing...very cool...
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Posted by panzerguy on Saturday, March 21, 2009 10:34 AM

   

   Vespa this is really cool. The fire escape is a piece of art all by itself.

   But that door! As soon as I saw it it brought back memories of when I was a kid living in the Village in NY. The door leading out on to our buildings roof looked just like it only it was painted red.

 

 

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Posted by starduster on Saturday, March 21, 2009 11:12 AM
 Truly outstanding work, do you by any chance photograph these views or is this all from memory ? the modeling on this board just amazes me, thanks for sharing this is one build I'm gonna watch.  Karl
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Posted by vespa boy on Sunday, March 22, 2009 1:51 PM

Serno and Panzerguy thanks for the comments on the fire escape. PG glad to know it rings true to someone who has first hand experience with these doors. A friend lived in Chelsea (NYC) in the late 80s and had a door like this. The inside was like a submarine door, there was a circular handle in the centre which locked bars into place on all four sides!

Carl: Thanks. They are high compliments from  you. Your builds have a great respect for detail. Can't wait to see more of your current build as it evolves.

jtrace: Thanks for letting me know about the pipe benders. Good to know the simple solution works!

Manny: Thanks. I've not built a shadowbox dio before so I am working it out as I go. I have some true surface mirrors to add on one side and I am gooing to work out a hinged lid with glazing for the top.

Starduster: This is a composite build. Lots of details from lots of different places. I have started using photos to record details. I used to do it all from sketches and memory, but I bought a small digital camera and it allows me to record all kinds of details:

 

I've been making progress. I have built a second door and have almost finished two more platforms. Its tedious work, but necessary. More updates soon.

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Posted by the doog on Monday, March 23, 2009 10:24 AM

Narayan, it's been a while since I peeled over here in dio's, but I have to say that you never fail to impress, amaze, inspire. That brass door is just....well, I can't find the words for it!

Simply "Art", man!

I'll have to remember to look in more often! Blush [:I]

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Posted by Kolschey on Monday, March 23, 2009 3:25 PM

Great stuff! It is a serious pleasure to see your most recent project.

This is absolutely museum/gallery quality work. I strongly recommend that you see if you can find a venue for exhibition for all of the dioramas that you have shown. I believe you would be very well appreciated.

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Posted by detailfreak on Monday, March 23, 2009 4:44 PM
pretty awesome stuff there vespa,as far as railings and such,check out your local welding supply you might be able to use a brazing rod and avoid the kinking altogether. cant wait to see more.those rods come in all sorts of dia. just gotta dig for it.

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Posted by vespa boy on Thursday, May 21, 2009 11:10 AM

Things in life have been busy, but I have managed a few hours at the bench. These are update (and crappy) photos, but they give an idea of how this is coming along. I have finished construction on the three landings, got them fitted into the wall and started weathering the bricks. All comments and thoughts welcome.

 

 

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Posted by psstoff995 on Thursday, May 21, 2009 5:47 PM

Wow!! I thought for a moment I was looking at ref shots until I saw the raw brass- I love the weathering job- especially on the concrete facing (I think that's what it is?) type work

-Chris

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Monday, May 25, 2009 1:56 AM

It will be a real shame to see all of that gorgeous brass gone to the scabrous sort of paint jobs they always seem to have.  Or even an honest rusting.

REally looking forward to the collections of tuving, elctrical conduit, plumbing connections, roof drains all snaked in through there.  Ought to be really fun with cable/telco/electical wiring in place, too.

Handy thing about the "viewport" window, most motels use "public domain" prints, so you should have no trouble finding an example ro put on the wall <g>

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Posted by Jim Barton on Tuesday, May 26, 2009 2:14 PM

 psstoff995 wrote:
I was wondering vespa- will the viewing wall with the window on it look like the interior wall of the hotel room? I think that'd be really cool- some campy hotel wallpaper and poorly painted trim Tongue [:P]

 

You could even make the wallpaper look faded and torn.

Great idea for a shadow box!

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Posted by razorboy on Thursday, May 28, 2009 12:35 PM

Nice Work!  Very impressive.

rb

 vespa boy wrote:

Last year I spent a lot of time travelling around the country giving lectures and staying in hotel rooms with the worst views...service alleys, electrical substations, brick walls etc. So I wanted to incorporate that experience into a box diorama so that the viewer would look out of a hotel window into a lane-way. A reversal of the usual box diorama where you are looking into an interior space.

 Because this was different from my other projects in that it wasn't a piece of ground, I thought I would also include components that fellow modellers and friends had made...a blank brick wall by Howard Hazelton, a photo etch fire escape by Ken Hamilton, an empty bottle by Virgil Suarez. Usually I scratch build everything, but I wanted to honour my diorama buddies with this build.

 

I did a rough layout to check the composition and the idea...A fire escape, lots of plumbing and electrical lines as well as a trash chute.

And then set about cutting up Howard's beatifully cast hydrocal walls and casting some bands of plaster  to fit the architecture I had in mind

 

Here is how the shadow box starts to take shape. There will just be a small window through which the viewer has to peer and see the lane outside. The front wall, which in this photo only comes half way up, will cover the entire face and the small window will be the only way to see the dio.

 Ken had some 1/24 scale fire escapes etched to his specs and kindly sent me a set. If you haven't read his book on dioramas, then you are missing out on something special.

And I set about detailing and modifying it

1. by making individual rafts and edging them

2. Assembling the rafts to make platforms

 3. And then adding railings and ladders. Its still not finished but it will give you an idea of where it is headed

 

And I made some doors to exit onto the fire escapes using brass sheet glued onto a plastic core

 

Its a long way from being finished. I'll update as the build progresses. All thoughts/comments are welcome. Thanks for looking.

 

 

 

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Posted by redleg12 on Thursday, May 28, 2009 4:21 PM

Stunning....absolutly stunning.

I am always impressed how you take simple scenes and turn them into works of art. You make many of us other modelers feel like just assemblers

Impressive

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Posted by vespa boy on Saturday, May 30, 2009 9:31 AM

Thanks for your feedback. I do appreciate it.

 

I've been messing around with the side wall...this will be at a right angle to the fire escapes. I've been trying to work out how to do ducting and this is the result of some experiments with take-out food containers. I'm getting there but not the final result. Its very much WIP.

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Posted by Brizio on Saturday, May 30, 2009 10:58 AM

WoW!!! Very nice build!!!

And under it you will park a 60s Vespa??? :)

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