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Buried Mig in Iraq.

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Posted by paintsniffer on Thursday, March 26, 2009 4:50 AM

It's hard to argue intentions.. But that looks pretty intentional.

I can't imagine anyone just forgetting about a multi-million Dinar Mach 3 interceptor and just letting the desert reclaim it... Especially given that they knew we were making a concerted effort to blow up their air force on the ground.

The restoration shop staff says its a back-burner project.. Memphis Belle is likely to be their top priority for a while. To make the thing presentable shouldn't be a big deal, but the USAF museum usually goes for restoring things to the point they could fly if they wanted to.. Which for that thing will mean taking it apart down to every last screw, rivet, and fastener, cleaning it, and putting it back together.

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Posted by MIflyer on Friday, March 20, 2009 2:05 PM
 paintsniffer wrote:

 I think it is probably a case of someone highly placed and clueless telling lower ranking people who may or may not have been clueless to bury the very expensive mach 3 interceptor so nobody can see it to blow it up.

Not necessarily: If you just parked it outside and ignored it, twenty years of wind and sand would bury it for you - or very nearly so. The Iraqi military left an awful lot of equipment, vehicles, and ordnance simply laying around. Of course, that's not to say that it wasn't buried purposely - they may not have wanted the sight of interceptors on the ground to attract fire from US aircraft.

Very cool to see this tired old bird being restored, by the way.

Kevin

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Posted by paintsniffer on Tuesday, March 17, 2009 5:19 AM

 I think it is probably a case of someone highly placed and clueless telling lower ranking people who may or may not have been clueless to bury the very expensive mach 3 interceptor so nobody can see it to blow it up.

 

As promised, the pictures. Not the greatest, because I was there to see the totally disassembled pre-production F-22, F-23 and the completely disassembled and stripped memphis bell.  I have pictures of those if anyone is interested. 

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Posted by psstoff995 on Monday, March 16, 2009 1:29 PM
Any particular reason (I'm assuming the Iraqi Air Force buried their own planes?) they would have done that? Seams to me letting them get bombed on their runways would have been a much simpler way of destroying them... and then it’s not like we could have dug them back up at that point.

Reminds me of the crashed (was it a Phantom or something?) Israeli plane from the opening of The Sum of all Fears where it had been carrying a live Nuke...

The M1070 looks much more worthy of the job as opposed to the terrorists with shovels that got radiation poisoning.

-Chris

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Posted by paintsniffer on Monday, March 16, 2009 3:55 AM

I have pictures of it about a year ago when I took a tour of the restoration shop. I will see if I can dig them up. They said there is no way it would ever fly again after being buried like that- but it will be perfect for a museum display.

The wings are still off of it last I heard.

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Posted by Lloyd on Sunday, March 15, 2009 8:45 PM
I'd be interested to see if anyone attempts this one. Accurate armour do a M1070 HET TRACTOR in 1/35 for only $272.Sad [:(]  Scratchbuilding skills may come in handy.
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Posted by Cableguy9238 on Sunday, March 15, 2009 8:30 PM

One of these Mig-25s is now undergoing restoration at the U.S. Air Force Museum in Dayton, Ohio.  I saw it in person just a short time ago.

More information here:

 http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/factsheets/factsheet.asp?id=8752

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Posted by Phil_H on Sunday, March 15, 2009 6:24 PM
There's more pics (from the same series) and a detailed article here: Exhumating the Dead Iraqi Air Force
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Posted by Sian on Sunday, March 15, 2009 5:39 PM

Wow, that's neat.

Wikipedia has one more image of obviously the same operation, giving a good view of the truck towing it out as well. Tons of diorama potential. ^.^

 

 

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Posted by richs26 on Sunday, March 15, 2009 11:57 AM
Yes, it is the same type as the one that Belenko flew from the USSR to Japan in 1976 where we took it apart and examined it, and then gave it back to the Russkies.  Probably a more updated one than back in 76.

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Posted by Bronto on Sunday, March 15, 2009 7:29 AM

 Camm wrote:
The Mig in the shot's. Is that the "foxbat"?

 

Yes, it is a Mig-25 Foxbat

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Posted by Lloyd on Saturday, March 14, 2009 11:51 PM
The Mig in the shot's. Is that the "foxbat"?
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Posted by richs26 on Saturday, March 14, 2009 10:32 PM

USAF Civil Engineering, Rapid Engineer Deployable Heavy Operational Repair Squadron Engineers (REDHORSE), at its finest hour, getting the job done.  When I was at Kirkuk, there was all kinds of Mig 17's and Mig 21's l aying around with brand new engines still in crates.  There was even an old WWII M-8 Greyhound armored car.  The Army dug up fill dirt and buried all the old junk around the base.

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Posted by B-17 Guy on Saturday, March 14, 2009 9:56 PM

 fermis wrote:
 My bro brought me back a few little parts from a partially buried mig 25, found near Al Asad airbase, Iraq. Some neat stuff.    Would be a great dio.

I've been there, interesting place, there arent many planes around there, but the few that are were fun too look at.Would have loved to snag a few parts off of them. Altimeter would be fun. 

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Posted by fermis on Saturday, March 14, 2009 1:48 PM
 My bro brought me back a few little parts from a partially buried mig 25, found near Al Asad airbase, Iraq. Some neat stuff.    Would be a great dio.

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Posted by russianfist on Saturday, March 14, 2009 1:08 PM

I always wondered if that thing was airworthy after being in the sand or did they just ruin it when they burried it?

Yes, it would make a killer diorama though.

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Saturday, March 14, 2009 9:24 AM

And the winner for "Best-Camouflaged MiG 25  IS:"

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Posted by Bronto on Saturday, March 14, 2009 7:38 AM

I'd be interested to know what the truck towing out the Mig is.

 

 

The rear end of the truck appears to be that of an M-1070.

 

 

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Posted by Phil_H on Saturday, March 14, 2009 7:38 AM
 Camm wrote:

I'd be interested to know what the truck towing out the Mig is.

At a guess, I'd say it looks like an M1070 HET (Heavy Equipment Transport)

Pics may be found here: http://www.primeportal.net/transports/m1070_home.htm

 

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Buried Mig in Iraq.
Posted by Lloyd on Saturday, March 14, 2009 5:49 AM

This could make a very interesting diorama. I'd be interested to know what the truck towing out the Mig is.

 

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