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help?
Posted by Mac27bran on Monday, August 10, 2009 11:41 PM

hey does anyone know any method of building arches and stuff, i would like to know because i am buildin a carentan diorama and i would like to know how to build one.

 

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Posted by Pawel on Tuesday, August 11, 2009 5:38 AM

Hello!

I think I'm not the only one who would like to know more about what do You mean by "arches and stuff" and what problems exactly do You have building it. Let's clarify and then we all will try to help. Have a nice day

Pawel

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

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Posted by HeavyArty on Tuesday, August 11, 2009 5:45 AM
Also, a more descriptive title, such as "Help with buildings" or "Help Constructing Arches" will get looked at more than a generic "Help?"

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Posted by senojrn on Tuesday, August 11, 2009 8:19 AM

You can try finding some item around the house with the same diameter as the arch you are wanting to create, draw that on your base building material (i.e. styrofoam or thin plywood, balsa, basswood, etc.), then cut that shape out. 

What method are you using the construct your building(s) for your Carentan dio?

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Tuesday, August 11, 2009 11:31 AM
 Mac27bran wrote:

hey does anyone know any method of building arches and stuff, i would like to know because i am buildin a carentan diorama and i would like to know how to build one.

 

I'd cast arches in plaster, then scribe the individual stones or bricks into it with a knife...

But, you really need to tell us what exactly you're wanting build..

 

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Posted by senojrn on Tuesday, August 11, 2009 6:11 PM

Solid plaster is really heavy and can take a very long time to dry (a solid plaster building in my first dio attempt took almost 3+ months to fully cure).  It'd be better to have a lightweight base material (balsa, thin plywood, styrofoam, etc), then cover it with plaster and scribe detail as Hans described.

You'd do well to draw up some plans for your building using either paper or cardboard, do all your trail-and-error design & planning work with that, rather than spend the time and money using plaster and/pr whatever else.

Hope this helps!  Keep us posted!

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Posted by Mac27bran on Wednesday, August 12, 2009 1:42 PM

sorry for the lack of description.

my plan was to have and arch that was in a french town, so i belive it would have those angled stone around the arch.

thanks for the tips though i really aprrectiate it. the dio is coming along nicely.

-Mac

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Posted by jthurston on Wednesday, August 12, 2009 2:18 PM

Another possibility might be styrofoam, specifically that green type that some people use for "planting" plastic flowers. You can get it cheap at Hobby Lobby or wherever, and it's real easy to carve stones etc into the surface.

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Posted by Mac27bran on Wednesday, August 12, 2009 6:47 PM

thanks

 

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Posted by Stern0 on Thursday, August 13, 2009 3:59 PM
Air dry clay is a good medium...and for my low budget behind..I use cardboard covered in sheetrock mud...you can scribe your bricks and rock in while wet. good luck.
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Posted by oldthudman on Sunday, August 16, 2009 7:19 PM

Blocks, bricks, stones, can be formed from "polymer clay" (bake @ 200°-230° for about 20minutes...........I leave the oven door ajar.....I would make a few test shots).......Brands are Sculpey and FIMO and can be found at Michaels, Hobby Lobby, Craft Stores, etc.....They also come in a number of colors.............. 

I know that Milliput will air dry, but I don't know about "polymer clay"....

Finished stones can be glued on a wall of various materials...... 

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Posted by M1Carbine on Sunday, August 16, 2009 10:39 PM
Another idea is to take a piece of sheet rock (not 4x8) and peel the backing off both sides. I have used it before and worked out pretty well.
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Posted by renarts on Sunday, August 16, 2009 11:30 PM
Depending on the architectural structure you want will determine the materials used. Thick heavy arches al la bridges can be carved from thick styrofoam like you find in electronic packaging. Or use the florists foam (green) you find at craft stores. Small courtyard entryways, can be made from drywall cut to shape (also found at DIY stores in the scrap bin and in some cases you can pick up chunks that would be thrown away that are used as spacers by the retailer between stacks.), the panel insulation you find at DIY stores that can be 1/2", 3/4", 1", etc. This can be cut and shaped. MDF, plywood, scrap wood all make for great bases for architectural elements and are easily shaped and mounted to a base to provide a platform for decoration. Cork, again found at DIY stores can be cut and added to theses surfaces to make key stones, edging, plinths, mantles, etc and looks like rough stone when painted. The styrofoam can be covered with drywall paste, spackle, putty and textured and while curing, masonry lines and decoration cut, sanded, imprinted etc into it. Its cheap, handy and drys fast. Once dry you can make bullet holes, scratches and damage just as stucco or stone would suffer from battle damage and weathering. Paint and dry brush to taste to fit your scene.

Foam can be glued with white glue, or 3M makes a Liquid Nails specifically for gluing styrofoam.

Just remember to make your architectural elements in scale with your figures. A garden wall is not made from the same size stone or brick that castle walls, the pyramid or the Arc De Triumph is made from. It works if its believable scale with your diorama or vignette.

Good luck.
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Posted by Mac27bran on Monday, August 17, 2009 1:27 AM
thank you guys! i realyy aprreciate it
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