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snow for dioramas
Posted by de009 on Thursday, August 27, 2009 3:44 PM

i am working on a kursk dio with a tiger tank and a few infantry in 1/72 scale any suggestions with making snow   

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KURSK "the battle of all battles'

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Thursday, August 27, 2009 4:13 PM

Woodland Scenics makes a decent snow, and it's eapecially good in that scale... It has some "sparkle" that makes it look pretty good.   Personally, I use baking soda for snow, but Doog have a seizure if I recommend it... I've never had any problems with it, but he has a couple horror stories using it...

I usually paint my celluclay ground and "drifts" with white latex paint, and use the baking soda on folliage and the model(s) and tires/tracks... 

Some guys have used flour, but I'd advise against it.  It turns yellow and attracts critters unless it's REALLY sealed well... Weevils will get into it and a scale-foot long bug doesn't usually work on a diorama...

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Posted by rangie on Thursday, August 27, 2009 4:20 PM

 

 Here is my 1/72nd Panther.  I used talcum powder sealed with hairspray

 

 

 

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rangie
Posted by de009 on Thursday, August 27, 2009 9:13 PM
  great job

KURSK "the battle of all battles'

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hans
Posted by de009 on Thursday, August 27, 2009 9:16 PM
 have baking soda heard hair spray works as good as white glue and water. will never use flour thanks

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Posted by Tankluver on Thursday, August 27, 2009 9:46 PM
it didnt snow at kursk unless your doing an after battle diorama
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Posted by rangie on Friday, August 28, 2009 7:50 AM
Snowed in the Ardennes...Quick shift of place to Bastogne?
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Posted by the doog on Friday, August 28, 2009 8:30 AM

DO NOT USE BAKING SODA!!!!!

Here's the thread about it, and all the problems it can cause--not just my experiences, but several modelers. Hans has just been pure lucky!

Paste it into your browser...

/forums/827973/ShowPost.aspx

Use Woodland Scenics snow powder, or talcum powder is also a viable option for snow in 1/72.

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Posted by Mic on Friday, August 28, 2009 11:51 AM

HAHAHA! It was only a matter of time Big Smile [:D]

Luv ya, Doog!

Steve

 

 

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Friday, August 28, 2009 1:06 PM

Hans has just been pure lucky!

Some would say almost magical... Wink [;)]

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Posted by de009 on Friday, August 28, 2009 1:08 PM
thanks for the info its stalingrad winter of 42-43

KURSK "the battle of all battles'

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hey all
Posted by de009 on Saturday, August 29, 2009 3:34 PM
 used talc for my snow sealed with hairspray.it look really gooood.figure painting next,hope the old eyes can deal with these small ones

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Posted by Wirraway on Tuesday, September 1, 2009 1:19 AM
wheres Manny ?  I wonder if he will ever repeat his infamous "bakery" critique ?  Angel [angel]

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Posted by glusnifr1 on Saturday, September 12, 2009 8:57 AM

hi,

  woodland scenics makes a product called winter effects ,it has snow,and ice effects ,i found it in my local AC MOORE ,its meant for diorama and school projects,they have other kits for rock making and water effects,desert dios,ect,  many uses and bases.

 

   hope this helps

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Posted by Stern0 on Saturday, September 12, 2009 10:14 AM
 the doog wrote:

DO NOT USE BAKING SODA!!!!!

Here's the thread about it, and all the problems it can cause--not just my experiences, but several modelers. Hans has just been pure lucky!

Paste it into your browser...

/forums/827973/ShowPost.aspx

Use Woodland Scenics snow powder, or talcum powder is also a viable option for snow in 1/72.

DoogIf memory serves your's reacted on a pastic model, correct? I used baking powder on my last with very little on plastic..Does the "reaction" go for ground work as well? I sealed mine up best I could.....Do I have a time bomb on my hands or just heartbreak? Many thanks!Big Smile [:D]

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Saturday, September 12, 2009 10:21 AM

Doog's dilema (sounds like a title, don't it?Wink [;)]) with baking soda can be read here:

/forums/827973/ShowPost.aspx

I've never had anything happen even remotely echoing his experience, but that's just me talkin'... I've used it for snow as well as for adding texture to muddy tires & tracks and for exhaust system and general hull & track rust... 

 

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Posted by Stern0 on Saturday, September 12, 2009 10:29 AM

So maybe just a 50/50 chance huh?...I just wondered what the difference in powder and soda is, Ever use powder Col.? And If luck has anything to do with it I'm screwed!Big Smile [:D]

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Saturday, September 12, 2009 10:34 AM
Nah, never used powder.. Used flour once, back in the eearly '70s.. Raided mom's kitchen canister.. Found out that it yellows (bad), and gets fulla bugs (worse)... My M-48 was over-run with giant (in 1/32) weevils..  I used soda last on an M-8 dio about 8-9 months ago... No issues yet..

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Posted by Kykeon on Saturday, September 12, 2009 10:43 AM

"I'm travelin' down the road, I'm flirtin' with disaster." Headphones [{(-_-)}]

It's not a question of if, but when. Been there, done that.

Use something else, or just wait for the ooze. Banged Head [banghead]

Powdered Epsom Salts, (Magnesium Sulfate) is a good home-brewed alternative. You need to grind the crystals up though, like with a mortar and pestle. No ooze, no critters, no worries...

I use powdered silica. Chemically inert, stable, nothing eats it. Just don't breathe the stuff. Can you say pseudovolcanopneumosiliconiosis? Wink [;)]

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Sunday, September 13, 2009 11:16 AM
I imagine it's a matter of time, yeah... Been getting away with it for 40 years... 'Bout due, I reckon...Big Smile [:D]

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Posted by Kykeon on Sunday, September 13, 2009 1:29 PM

OK Hans....your case is an enigma. Maybe certain paints are less reactive then others. Sodium Bicarbonate is amphoteric, meaning it reacts to both acids and bases. I'm not familiar with the pH ranges of model paints, but I'll bet there is a noticeable range above and below a neutral pH of 7. In any event, Sodium Bicarbonate is not inert and decomposes readily, both thermally and chemically. Why risk screwing up your models when there are better materials readily available?

It took probably 10 years for it to catch up with me, but it made a mess of many of my models, never again...

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Sunday, September 13, 2009 6:14 PM

I dunno...

Could be because I don't mix it with anything... I mean, it's just "snow" sitting on celluclay... I spray glue onto the tempera-painted groundwork, sprinkle it with soda, knock off the excess, done... When I sprinkle it on a model, it's straight and not mixed with anything either, just hairspray or water/white glue for a fixative...

I've used it to add texture to "rust" for exhaust systems too though, with no issues... 

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Posted by the doog on Monday, September 14, 2009 7:49 AM

Hans, with what I've read of your modeling habits, your models probably aren't around long enough to see any negative results fro the use of baking soda!

Don't you regularly cannibalize and reso them?

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Monday, September 14, 2009 10:35 AM
Yeah, but I still have parts (like the afore mentioned exhaust systems) laying around, some are well over 20 years old... But like I said earlier, the vast majority of it isn't in contact with any plastic, just tempera, glue, and celluclay...

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Posted by the Baron on Monday, September 14, 2009 11:39 AM

Hey--wait a minute!  Hans von Hammer, Arm and Hammer...

Maybe he's not as neutral on the subject as we might expect Big Smile [:D]

 

Seriously, I've used baking soda in the same way that HvH describes, and I haven't had any problems yet.  I've glued it to Celluclay, used white glue (Elmer's) brushed onto the surface first, and I've also used it to represent snow on armor and on soft plastic Italeri GI figures.

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Monday, September 14, 2009 2:44 PM
Ah damn, ya got me, Herr Baron...

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Posted by Gamewarden5 on Tuesday, September 15, 2009 5:43 AM
 Kykeon wrote:

Can you say pseudovolcanopneumosiliconiosis? Wink [;)]

NO.

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Posted by Kykeon on Tuesday, September 15, 2009 12:02 PM
Well, then I guess you aren't going to like floccinaucinihilipilification any better....
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Posted by Gamewarden5 on Friday, September 25, 2009 5:24 PM

 Kykeon wrote:
Well, then I guess you aren't going to like floccinaucinihilipilification any better....

Flozzynozzynolipfication. My kids laid that one on me when they were trying to be Smarmy know it alls.

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Posted by de009 on Sunday, September 27, 2009 8:09 PM
 de009 wrote:

i am working on a kursk dio with a tiger tank and a few infantry in 1/72 scale any suggestions with making snow   

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