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Need help w/groundwork...
Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, April 15, 2010 1:18 AM

I am dipping my feet in the diorama pool, and although my "normal" ground looks ok, I really want to  have a "ploughed Field look" on my next one. I tried w/celluclay and plaster, and while the texture was right, the look was horendous. Has anyone done this, and how did you get the right look ?? Like I said, I am after a ploughed field look, something that has been picked and maybe abandoned. Thx as always.

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Posted by 101stAirborne on Thursday, April 15, 2010 7:09 AM

you can try drywall compound, that might work well. For the texture use an old brush and stiple the texture into it while it is still wet.

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Posted by SuppressionFire on Thursday, April 15, 2010 7:20 AM

Ditto

IdeaAlso try a surface that has the basic shape and add the texture. Plastic in the 'corduroy' shape you need to scale can be coated with fine sand, painted in suitable earth enamel color then washed in a darker acrylic and finally dry-brush in lighter shade of base color enamel.

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Posted by camokid on Thursday, April 15, 2010 7:26 AM

Is this anything like the look you are going for? (The dirt texture)

 

 

If so, it is done with celluclay, sand blast sand, white glue and water. I can show you some in progress shots if it is the look you are after.

Ken

 

 

Ken

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Posted by ajlafleche on Thursday, April 15, 2010 8:29 AM

Can you find a picture on-line of what you're aiming for? Then a picture of the less than satisfying effort will make it easier to give directions and assistance.

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Posted by the doog on Thursday, April 15, 2010 11:51 AM

Celuclay is the perfect medium for that. The key is not to use too much water in it, and don't add plaster--that just defeats the workability of the celluclay.

Here's a link to one of my dio's showing how I worked the groundwork with Celluclay.

 

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, April 15, 2010 2:34 PM

Thanks guys. Doog, your "recipe" is what I have been using  for all my normal groundwork I got the "ploughed field" idea from a diorama I saw in a different mag...Whistling

Here are a cpl pics of the look and texture I'm after, I apologize for the picture quality.

and here is what I have so far...like i said, ugly.

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Posted by the doog on Thursday, April 15, 2010 4:10 PM

Brutus, I see now.

Well, to be honest, I think what you have is not very far from what you're looking for? I just believe that if you leave out the plaster and add some water to your finger and shape the top of those "rows" there that you can easily get that look.

Add glue to your Celluclay, and acrylic brown paint. Maybe some small rocks--add the bigger ones later. But you should easily be able to make what you have already into what you want with just a little work, in my opinion!

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, April 15, 2010 6:16 PM

Thanks Doog. I usually will add glue and brown craft paint(the stuff @ WM for .50), and I am gonna retry this with more glue, more dirt and no plaster. As always thanks, and I'll keep ya posted on how she turns out.

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, April 15, 2010 7:36 PM

Here's another one I did over the winter with the Doog's recipe

and a base for a Gepard I need to finish

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Posted by the doog on Thursday, April 15, 2010 10:36 PM

Glad to help Brutus!

Only other thing I would recommend is to not be too "avante garde" with you base perimeter designs. If you make them too crazy looking or sloppy, you detract from the models, in my opinion. Tidying them up a bit would help in your presentation.

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