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New WIP--More than a Base, Less than a Dio, TONS OF QUESTIONS!

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  • Member since
    April 2008
  • From: Ventura (at the beach) in California
Posted by *INDY on Wednesday, April 21, 2010 3:33 AM

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One step at a time Bill..at least til you get going

1st step----research = find a picture(s) of roughly what the road /  terrain looks like you want to model the shape of it--the look of it,ect

Do your best to find images of what that tank looks like in motion(hopefully on uneven ground)

2.  Make a little doodle of how that road, ect fits on your base and we can start laying it out and see where it needs to be built up, hollowed or flatened .make this plan from the start and think through your options.

~~Yes it might be better to build the bogies to max travel and then build the ground to suit---BUT --likely it woukd be best to rough out the ground 1st, the build the tank to that basic idea, then perfect the earthwork to suit......

That's a start ain't it?   Can't do everything at once,Beer

 

"Well...you gunna pull them pistols, or just whistle Dixie?"

  • Member since
    September 2007
  • From: Truro Nova Scotia, Canada
Posted by SuppressionFire on Monday, April 19, 2010 7:10 AM

Citadelgrad87,

Great idea! The subject looks very front heavy so do consider this if its mid 'break over' I would guess that balance point would be 1/3 of the distance from the front of the Tank destroyer. Its easier to build articulated suspension first, then match the base and ground to it. Depict the massive weight of this vehicle, sink the contact points deep into whatever ground it is turning on.

So many tanks on contest tables are in static flat ground position, your will stand out for sure!YesCool

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  • Member since
    February 2007
Posted by Boomerang on Monday, April 19, 2010 6:47 AM

   Nice choice of subject. And i agree, i think most vehicles look better on a base.

   I have never built a tank that has poseable suspension so i can't say exactly what your first steps would be. I guess it would depend on the terrain of your base. I would probably go for building the base first and then conforming your suspension over it.

   As for what you use for a base.....well that's entirely up to you and your imagination.....Big Smile

   Here is a cool pic that may interest you.....has some good supension travel.....

 

  

Good luck with the build. Look foward to seeing some of it when you get going.

 

Boomer...  Australia

  • Member since
    January 2012
New WIP--More than a Base, Less than a Dio, TONS OF QUESTIONS!
Posted by I make stuff on Saturday, April 17, 2010 7:57 PM

Having jumped into the camp that a model, every model, needs a base, I have come up with an idea to display my next armor build.

The genesis is that I have notices at local contests that "___ crossing a section of railroad" seems to be an attractive, effective, and judge favored method of displaying a model, and articulating the suspension.  Two models are making the rounds, both on nicely done RR bases, and I must say, it catches my eye.

Of course, anyone who follows my goofy builds knows that I am kind of marching to a different drummer, it might not even be a drum, but it's a noise in my head, so I feel that I cannot, ever, do a RR crossing base.  I was stuck brainstorming some other way to depict an articulated suspension, assuming its not beyond my abilities.

Here's the subject:  Tamiya IUS 152 in 1/35.

 

 

Before we move on, the guys who know me know this next shot is coming, a few goodies I accumulated to enhance the build...

Of course, most of these figgies are just random Russians, and they won't end up on this one, maybe the two winter dudes, though.  The Fruils and the AM Barrel, though, are spoken for on this build.  I have a bunch of other Russian Armor in the queue, including IS3, KV-1 and KV2 Big Turret, T-35 land battleship and a BA10.  The 3 figure pack is for hte T35.  Incidentally, with careful shopping and sniping good deals, these figures were ridiculously cheap, the Tank figs came from Mickster, who is unfortunately closing up shop, and the other guys were from Squadron, everything on sale. 

Here's the base I plan to use, a nice Oak plaque I picked up at Michaels, sanded it, stained it, and then carefully masked the edges to protect them from whatever is to come on this journey.

 

 OK, here's the setup--ISU is tooling down a dirt road, with other ISUs, let's say, a few miles or more out of, let's say, Berlin, maybe Spring 1945, maybe earlier, maybe snow, maybe not (probably not!).  The commander sees something to the front, maybe some sort of ambush or prepared defensive position, and the SPs decide to exit the road to spread out.  He will be pointing left, off the road, and the gun will be just leaving the elevated road, in that direction, about half on and half off, hopefully articulating the suspension, and hopefully not a super over my head project.

Here's a ridiculous early mock up using the hull as it comes out of the box, and a piece of foam to represent the road bed.  I have a bunch of 3M foam board that I may use to build up the road instead of this foam, but this was handy.  Over this, I will put a thin layer of wood filler, courtesy of Mr 21st Century Materials, INDY-Adam.  A thin layer on the road, and blending to represent the shoulder/field.  I plan to (and this will no doubt change when the guys who have done this weigh in) build up a road bed as the highest points, and have a somewhat lower shoulder/field, probably grassy, maybe a fence being knocked over to lend a feel of movement?

Here's the ridiculously simple mockup to my half page setup:

  

 

This is my FIrst Tamiya kit in over 30 years, the last was either a T62 or an SAS Jeep, literally, in high school.  Let me tell you, this thing is nice so far.  Note the individual bag for the hull bottom, it's hermeticaly sealed!  The indy links, complete with a sag jig, are also separately packaged and provided in a light brown styrene. 

I will probably do a parallel build in Armor, but I need to get the base countour down before I tackle the suspension, so I can get the suspension to properly conform to the ground.

So there it is.  I haven't started this because I am stymied, a bit afraid, and, frankly, I don't know what to do first.  It seems like I need to decide where the road will be, then finish the base contour, then start the model/suspension?  I plan to surround the groundwork with some oak veneer stained to match the base.  I don't even know when or how to do that???

Help a fellow out? 

P.S., I have closely followed other dio builds, and have bought and read, several times, How to Build Armor Dioramas, by Lynn Kessler, and cannot recommend this book enough. I also have the Osprey book Building the IS heavy tanks, and have read that several times, too.  My questions are limited by design to practical issues that I cannot find answers for. 

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