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15cm s.IG.33 - Krupp Protze 6x4 with crew dio **WIP**

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15cm s.IG.33 - Krupp Protze 6x4 with crew dio **WIP**
Posted by M1Carbine on Tuesday, October 12, 2010 9:28 PM

Ok so after wingy things, wheeled things, and tracked things its time to delve into other areas.  this will be a three part dio build.

1 - 15cm s.IG.33

2 - figures

3 - base

the kit

Im still up int he air about the title yet, please feel free to throw some suggestions my way.

Bob

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Posted by Mic on Tuesday, October 12, 2010 11:15 PM

Howabout Up In The Air? Seriously tho, let the title come to you as you work.

This is gonna be cool, looking forward to followin' you along, Bob.

Steve M.

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Posted by deafpanzer on Friday, October 15, 2010 12:00 AM

Whoa whoa whoa!  You thought you could sneak in a WIP without me looking... I found you!  LOL  I will be watching this... it should be fun!!!  Good luck buddy Yes

Andy

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Posted by M1Carbine on Friday, October 15, 2010 3:36 PM

Steve - thats what im going to do, work through the build and see what comes to mind.  Good to have you along.

Andy - LOL, cant sneak away from you buddy, good to have you here as well.

Ok I got some more done and the reason its slow is due to some really bad instructions, really tiny parts and sink holes that are hell.

Main carridge assembly and gun:

Wheels and brake assembly:

How in the heck are you supposed to fill thisand sand it:

well I tried something new.  I got a blob of CA on the end of a toothpick and placed in almost dead center of the sink hole to deposit some glue.  I withdrew the tooth pick, wiped it off and then put it dead center into the blob of glue adn gently moved it out to the edge of the hole.  I then ket it sit and let gravity do its majic and then hit it with some insta-set.  Here is the result and I was quite happy with it.

no sanding needed gents Big Smile

Left side frame completed:

thats what I got for now.  Ill be away from the bench for a day or so so updates to follow shortly.

Bob

 

 

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Posted by total american patriot on Saturday, October 16, 2010 9:43 AM

oh i've been waiting for an arty dio for soo long. Good luck!Cool

 

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Posted by Mic on Saturday, October 16, 2010 11:05 AM

Those pieces are so small, it just sprained my brains looking at them. That is more patience than I will ever know. Looking forward to more shots!

Steve M.

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Posted by M1Carbine on Tuesday, October 19, 2010 1:22 AM

T A P -  thank you adn stay tuned

Steve - At first I cursed PE, Now I curse slide moulding and its ability to make really really really small detailed parts..............LOL

Progress:
 
In the following picture you can see the elevation and traverse gears.  Pay attention to the directions especially step 5 parts A1 and A60. Do not glue A1 into place as they would have you believe.  once the frame halves are together slide part A1 into place to the frame A30.  It must go strait across from frame to frame.  You may note behind the small elevation gear there are two parts that look offset, this would be the axle shaft.  No worries on trying to get it sanded, when all the panels go on you cannot see it so save yourself the headache

These are some shots of the rear of the gun frame and accessories box.  The grab handles have not been installed yet, reason being my rather large paws will without a doubt break them off.

There are some small gaps but Mr Surfacer will take care of that.
Next I mated the barrel to the rail and frame. Make sure that it is sitting even on the rail before you cement it down.  I had to check several times only to see that it was ever so slightly canted to one direction, after fussing a bit it went into place.
 
I then started on the shield.  There are some small bits that you will need to omit in order for painting (at least I do), shovel, pick, ranging stakes.  Parts A57 and A58 should be put n first, then A36 and A37.
There are some PE parts on here.  I was a bit perplexed as to why Dragon would make the data boards out of PE, I feel decals would have sufficed and I would think a bit more legible.
more to follow
Bob
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Posted by Mic on Tuesday, October 19, 2010 8:32 AM

Excellent building. Lots of gorgeous detail to this piece so far, and your patience is paying off. This is gonna look fantastic.

Steve M.

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Posted by M1Carbine on Tuesday, October 19, 2010 4:50 PM

Steve - thanks my friend, I really appreciate it.

Ok so I get to this part and guess what, its a Dragon phantom part that is not on the original:

so that is not getting attached.  The shield is complete:

muzzle cover:

and finally the completed gun:

The gun is now ready for paint.  Then I got to thinking (Oh no) this may need a support vehicle, that perhaps towed this into position.  Nothing fancy mind you but I am thinking oif adding this to the dio to make it more interesting:

still pondering the addition.

 

Bob

 

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Posted by bbrowniii on Tuesday, October 19, 2010 6:30 PM

M1Carbine

Steve - thanks my friend, I really appreciate it.

Ok so I get to this part and guess what, its a Dragon phantom part that is not on the original:

http://i740.photobucket.com/albums/xx46/rholmstr/15cm/Sig32.jpg

so that is not getting attached.  

Bob,

Some really nice work there.

As to the part that was not on the original...

The problem is that DML really kind of Frankensteined this kit.  Some of the parts are appropriate only for the mechanised towing version (the wheels, for example), while other parts are appropriate only for the horse-drawn version (the brake units).  It still builds up into a nice kit (as you have demonstrated), but there are some pretty bad accuracy issues.

The good thing is that, regardless of the kit's shortcomings, you have done this up nice!  Can't wait to see more!

'All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing' - Edmund Burke (1770 ??)

 

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Posted by Stern0 on Tuesday, October 19, 2010 6:47 PM

Great start M1...fantastic subject, built the Dragon 88 a few years ago and had a blast...can't wait for a update!Big Smile

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Posted by deafpanzer on Tuesday, October 19, 2010 7:12 PM

You are on a roll!  I don't see anything wrong if you are going for Krupp truck... both were readily available during early WWII.  How about throwing in extra figures to go with the truck too? LOL

Andy

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Posted by total american patriot on Tuesday, October 19, 2010 7:35 PM

My opinion? That barrel looks absolutely sexy!  Very beautifull piece of arty. What milimeter size?

 

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Posted by total american patriot on Tuesday, October 19, 2010 7:36 PM

total american patriot

My opinion? That barrel looks absolutely sexy!  Very beautifull piece of arty. What milimeter size?

oh its on the front picture, 150mm D'oh!

 

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Posted by total american patriot on Tuesday, October 19, 2010 7:37 PM

total american patriot

My opinion? That barrel looks absolutely sexy!  Very beautifull piece of arty. What milimeter size?

oh its on the front picture, 150mm D'oh!

 

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Posted by M1Carbine on Thursday, October 21, 2010 1:43 AM

bbrownii - Thank you so much and I agree that this is kind of a frankenstein kit.  DML should have put the appropiate (other parts) for the horse drawn version in the kit as AFV club did with thiers.  I suspect that DML will or has issued a horse drawn version probably for some more $$$$$$.

Stern0 - thanks bud I appreciate it.  I have Tamiyas 88 but I here the dragon is far better...what say you??

Andy - rolling along I go and yes I have thought of throwing in some more figures.  I have been looking through the stash to see what else Im adding....you read my mind.....whats left of it.................LOL

TAP - it is kinda sexy in a most artillery way.............LOL. 15cm is 150mm.

Ok so now the paint progression and final shots excuse the photos:
 
Field gray was the order for the day and here is the base coat:
After that dried it was time for Bobs tire treatment via the trusty Sharpie:
 
the fine tip for the rim edge and then the larger for the rest:
After that dried it was time for the Future treatment:
Then the pin wash (bad pic sorry)
 
Then dry brushing.  I as usual broke off three pieces but there back on. After the dry brushing I load up the air brush with Model Master flat acrylic clear and it does a lovely job of dusting everything up real good.
When that dries I then hit it with Model Master #1960 dullcoat from the can and everything pops out real nice:
Final photos of the s.IG.15
there she be all nice and ready for the pigments.  Those will be applies as I figure the tonal variants of the ground conver on the dio base, which is the last phase of all this so yes you will indeed see it weathered up some more.
Krupp photos Next
Bob

 

 

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Posted by M1Carbine on Thursday, October 21, 2010 1:50 AM

Ok so now the Krupp gets the build treatment.  Just a few quick photos to wet the pallet:

Construction begins with the cab:

after that it jumps to the chassis and the funny little engine that Tamiya molds only the bottom of:

more on this tomorrow

 

Bob

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Posted by bbrowniii on Thursday, October 21, 2010 12:09 PM

M1

GREAT progress.  I love the paintjob - those single color grey schemes just do it for me for some reason.

I'll look forward to seeing how the Krupp comes out!

'All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing' - Edmund Burke (1770 ??)

 

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Posted by total american patriot on Thursday, October 21, 2010 7:15 PM

nice paint job! what paint brand do you use?

 

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Posted by Mic on Saturday, October 23, 2010 1:45 PM

Gorgeous!

Steve M.

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Posted by deafpanzer on Saturday, October 23, 2010 3:29 PM

Your cannon is as beautiful as you! Big Smile  Funny thing I saw it on Military History channel last night as it was used during invasion of Poland.  I thought about your WIP!  Looking forward to see updates on the Krupp.

Andy

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Posted by M1Carbine on Saturday, October 23, 2010 6:43 PM

bbrownii - thank you much, I appreciate it.  Single gray does it for me to.  Im getting tired of the dark yellow sand so every now and then gray it is.

TAP - I use Tamiya acrylics mainly.  I use MM enamels for painting smaller objects no requireing an airbrush. Vellejo for all my figures.

Steve - thanks buddy, I appreciate it

Andy - LOL, thanks bud.  Dang I missed it and wanted to see that. 

On with he Krupp.  Several days of building so lots of pics:
 
rear suspension:
Chassis, suspension and front end assembled and base coated:
Next was the dash and front hood assembly:
EP marks where in a really bad place:
Hood:
there are two really bad gaps in the hood:
Mr surfacer 500 took care of that:
Wheels:
Wheels mounted:
rear cargo\troop area:
The kit 35104 is still crisp for what detail there is.  There are a lot of seam lines that need to be sanded but with a kit of this age this is no surprise.  As usual its a Tamiya so it pretty much falls together.
Items have gotten an oil wash and I am waiting for that to dry before dry brushing adn application of the mig pigments.  While I wait for that Im getting the rear troop seats and cargo bits ready for paint.
More to come.
Bob
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Posted by M1Carbine on Sunday, October 24, 2010 5:39 PM

Hello all

Got pretty much everything done.  The cargo area is attached:

all the little fiddly bits are on and I have not installed the wind shield yet.  I am going to wait till I figure the colors and tones of the ground work on the base so here you go:

and for your viewing pleasure:

and thats that, so IU guess..........................................................................

ITS FIGGY TIME!

 

Bob

 

 

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Posted by total american patriot on Monday, October 25, 2010 4:12 PM

whoa! check your flash!Indifferent But the first two pictures is enough, great Krupp!

 

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Posted by M1Carbine on Monday, October 25, 2010 8:43 PM

TAP - yeah I know, Ill get this taking photo thing figured out.  I just took a few with the dark back ground for some better detail.  Ill have it hashed out when the project is finalized.

 

Bob

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Posted by Mic on Monday, October 25, 2010 11:30 PM

Those pieces are gonna look great together, looking forward to seeing some ground work underneath 'em.

Steve M.

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Posted by M1Carbine on Tuesday, October 26, 2010 12:31 AM

Steve - thanks buddy.  I need all the support I can get.  Dios are believe it or not are new to me.  I have done them before but with model RR stuff.  Some of it just looks to......well you know....not real enough, or authentic so to speak.  We shall see.  Im working on some dragon figgies now.

 

Bob

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Posted by deafpanzer on Tuesday, October 26, 2010 11:12 AM

Bob, looking great so far!  Wish I can work at faster pace like you but I am afraid my OCD isn't a big helper.  It takes me forever to do those things like painting the tools and tracks for 2 or 3 nights! LOL

Always loved those Dragon figgies especially the new releases that come with PE and tons of extra stuff!  Which figure set(s) from DML are you using for this?  

Andy

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Posted by M1Carbine on Tuesday, October 26, 2010 12:20 PM

Andy - faster pace my eye.  I had a week off school so I had 12 hours a day at the bench...............LOL

 

 

 

Bob

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Posted by total american patriot on Tuesday, October 26, 2010 6:53 PM

school?! I thought i was  the only one!

On topic, I suppose youre using the same figs as the ones supplied. But which figs for the Krupp?

 

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