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Diorama "Iraqi Insurgency" using Master Box's Iraq kit 1 and kit 2

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Posted by minimortar on Wednesday, December 1, 2010 10:46 PM

kenny_conklin

remember all that counts is tha you like the final product your builder delivers to you. Doesnt matter what is wrong or out of place the fact is you are happy and you display the work that was made for you with pride.

if i could i would pat you on the back for still posting your builds when pretty much people just jump on the thread to dish out you did this and that wrong.

Kudos to you buddy. It's not what makes others happy its what makes you happy that counts.

Kenny

I agree... Completely.

I enjoy looking at MM/AI's models for what they are and I am glad that they continue to post. I can only praise them with an "A" for effort and two thumbs up for being as prolific with this hobby as they are.

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Posted by Tiking on Wednesday, December 1, 2010 10:30 AM

These two dios are just plane perfection. I really get inspired by looking at these. My figure building and painting are not the best so I need lots of inspiration and these certainly deoes the job for me. Thanks.

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Posted by kenny_conklin on Saturday, November 27, 2010 7:00 PM

i like them modelmaniac another couple of builds to add to your collection.

remember all that counts is tha you like the final product your builder delivers to you. Doesnt matter what is wrong or out of place the fact is you are happy and you display the work that was made for you with pride.

if i could i would pat you on the back for still posting your builds when pretty much people just jump on the thread to dish out you did this and that wrong.

Kudos to you buddy. It's not what makes others happy its what makes you happy that counts.

Kenny

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Posted by the doog on Friday, November 26, 2010 8:46 AM

ajlafleche

 

 the doog:

 

The DAK T-Shirt is actually very creative, given the political sentiments over in that country.

 

 

Karl, I have to disagree with you here on the DAK emblem on the shirt for several reasons.
First, the figure presumably represents an Islamic fundamentalist, al Qaeda/Taliban type. Part of their philosophy is a rejection of all things non-Muslim. The bent cross symbol has been used by Hindus, Navajos, Finns and, of course, Germany, all of which would be seen as heathen and infidel to a fundamentalist and anti westerner. While there might be some slight sympathy for the Germans of the 30’s and 40’s for their war against the rest of Europe, ,the fact they had targeted the Mid-East oil fields and were anti-Semitic would negate that. Further, the Germans would have been either Christian or some form of pagan/occult belief system which would be again, anathema to a fundamentalist of just about any stripe. Seeing this figure in a DAK embazoned shirt is about as much a disconnect as Sarah Palin showing up in a Che Guevera T-shirt.
Okay, now as to placement of the decal. It would seem exceptionally odd to make a button down shirt with a image like that on the front since lining up to the two halves would be somewhat labor intensive. It would be more believable if the figure were in a T-shirt with DAK emblem on the front or it the emblem were on the back of the shirt as sculpted.
Finally, from a modeling perspective the decal is laid down with no indication that it goes over two pieces f cloth. The builder has neither shaded the seam at the placket nor cut the decal to show this. It may have been laid down nicely as a decal on the door of a Kubelwagen, but it doesn’t look right on a shirt.

 

Hmm. Yeah, you make some pretty good points, Al. I was thinking of it from the perspective of being offensive to the Jews, but I guess I didn't think much beyond it as you did in your first paragraph. You make much more sense.

10 points to ya for the creative use of Billy Idol too! Big Smile

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Posted by ajlafleche on Friday, November 26, 2010 8:25 AM

the doog

The DAK T-Shirt is actually very creative, given the political sentiments over in that country.

Karl, I have to disagree with you here on the DAK emblem on the shirt for several reasons.

First, the figure presumably represents an Islamic fundamentalist, al Qaeda/Taliban type. Part of their philosophy is a rejection of all things non-Muslim. The bent cross symbol has been used by Hindus, Navajos, Finns and, of course, Germany, all of which would be seen as heathen and infidel to a fundamentalist and anti westerner. While there might be some slight sympathy for the Germans of the 30’s and 40’s for their war against the rest of Europe, ,the fact they had targeted the Mid-East oil fields and were anti-Semitic would negate that. Further, the Germans would have been either Christian or some form of pagan/occult belief system which would be again, anathema to a fundamentalist of just about any stripe. Seeing this figure in a DAK embazoned shirt is about as much a disconnect as Sarah Palin showing up in a Che Guevera T-shirt.

Okay, now as to placement of the decal. It would seem exceptionally odd to make a button down shirt with a image like that on the front since lining up to the two halves would be somewhat labor intensive. It would be more believable if the figure were in a T-shirt with DAK emblem on the front or it the emblem were on the back of the shirt as sculpted.

Finally, from a modeling perspective the decal is laid down with no indication that it goes over two pieces f cloth. The builder has neither shaded the seam at the placket nor cut the decal to show this. It may have been laid down nicely as a decal on the door of a Kubelwagen, but it doesn’t look right on a shirt.

 

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Posted by the doog on Thursday, November 25, 2010 5:21 PM

I think that both of these are really very well done. Nice painting, and the scenes both "work" very nicely.

The DAK T-Shirt is actually very creative, given the political sentiments over in that country.

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Posted by Bodge on Wednesday, November 24, 2010 1:18 PM

Excellent work, i love the whole aspect off this, the idea, the workmanship and the layout of each scene working with each other.Yes

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Posted by oddmanrush on Tuesday, November 23, 2010 1:17 PM

Manstein's revenge

Ahhhh...got it. I think that is a German tricolor helmet emblem, not French!

Yes, that is what I meant though I'm incorrect in my terminology. I had thought it was indicative of the German campaign in France, not that the emblem was French itself. Though researching it I found out that the national tricolor decal was introduced in 1933, well before the invasion of France. So you learn something new every day.

Jon

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Posted by Jester75 on Tuesday, November 23, 2010 1:06 PM

Ick!

Idol....

really??

Dead

That was kinda........weird...

Eric

 

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Posted by ajlafleche on Tuesday, November 23, 2010 7:35 AM

smeagol the vile

.  Ever think of telling them to slow down on the construction and make sure everything is done right, instead of speeding them out?

"In the midnight hour he cried- "more, more, more"
With a rebel yell he cried- "more, more, more"
In the midniight hour babe- "more, more, more"
With a rebel yell- "more, more, more"
More, more, more."

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Posted by smeagol the vile on Tuesday, November 23, 2010 1:10 AM

MM, Im curious...

Do you ever give your builders the feedback we give?  Seriously I want to know.  I see you posting something new here every week or so and they always have the same problems.  They show alot of promise but need more TLC.  Ever think of telling them to slow down on the construction and make sure everything is done right, instead of speeding them out?

 

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Posted by Model Maniac on Monday, November 22, 2010 10:08 PM

oddmanrush

 

Hahaha, get out! Man, there really is something for every one out there eh? Although, $90 for a hoody? Surprise Shoot. That's a bit too much coin for clothing, IMO.

Take a look here - www.soldierandwar.com/default2...ype=H

DAK T-shirt (G-29) costs only $10.20 each, except you're real fat. That will be $13.60

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Posted by Model Maniac on Monday, November 22, 2010 10:05 PM

Manstein's revenge

 

 oddmanrush:

 

Hmmm, what's equally as strange, if not more so, is the tricolor French campaign decal the insurgent has on his right sleeve.

 

I'm not seeing that...???

Me too, don't know which guy he mean.

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Posted by Model Maniac on Monday, November 22, 2010 10:01 PM

modelchasm

I like these a lot ...

No disrespect on the bookends comment. Thought it was a little "iffy" at first ... BUT then got to looking at them. I think something like this, set on really stable/ heavy bases would make an AWESOME set of bookends! .... Think I might just have to start that project. Might just use real metal bookends as part of the base. ... Thanks for the idea!!!!

Overall, I like'm. There's a few things here and there that stick out a little, but overall a nice  piece.

Many thanks for your kind comments! You can use these as bookends and you don't need metal as part of the bases. They are already heavy pieces.

I like them too. "Joh" has done good job. The boy comes shoeless, it was "Joh" who gave him slippers p and the DAK sign. Thanks again!

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, November 22, 2010 6:41 PM

Ahhhh...got it. I think that is a German tricolor helmet emblem, not French!

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Posted by ajlafleche on Monday, November 22, 2010 6:37 PM

Mansteins revenge

 oddmanrush:

Hmmm, what's equally as strange, if not more so, is the tricolor French campaign decal the insurgent has on his right sleeve.

I'm not seeing that...???

Shows up best in this pic, right arm above the elbow.

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, November 22, 2010 4:56 PM

oddmanrush

Hmmm, what's equally as strange, if not more so, is the tricolor French campaign decal the insurgent has on his right sleeve.

I'm not seeing that...???

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Posted by oddmanrush on Monday, November 22, 2010 3:46 PM

ajlafleche

 

 oddmanrush:

 

Although, if there was a hoody that existed with the DAK symbol on the back, that would be kinda cool...wouldn't really wear it any where, given the inflammatory symbolism but it'd still be neat.

 

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Hahaha, get out! Man, there really is something for every one out there eh? Although, $90 for a hoody? Surprise Shoot. That's a bit too much coin for clothing, IMO.

Jon

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Posted by ajlafleche on Monday, November 22, 2010 3:26 PM

oddmanrush

Although, if there was a hoody that existed with the DAK symbol on the back, that would be kinda cool...wouldn't really wear it any where, given the inflammatory symbolism but it'd still be neat.

Ask and you shall receive: Clicky at Belle and Blade

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Posted by modelchasm on Monday, November 22, 2010 9:38 AM

I like these a lot ...

No disrespect on the bookends comment. Thought it was a little "iffy" at first ... BUT then got to looking at them. I think something like this, set on really stable/ heavy bases would make an AWESOME set of bookends! .... Think I might just have to start that project. Might just use real metal bookends as part of the base. ... Thanks for the idea!!!!

Overall, I like'm. There's a few things here and there that stick out a little, but overall a nice  piece.

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Posted by oddmanrush on Monday, November 22, 2010 9:20 AM

Hmmm, what's equally as strange, if not more so, is the tricolor French campaign decal the insurgent has on his right sleeve. Guess he had some extra decals laying around, figured they'd look good on him. Although, if there was a hoody that existed with the DAK symbol on the back, that would be kinda cool...wouldn't really wear it any where, given the inflammatory symbolism but it'd still be neat. Also, Subfixer, I like that idea of book ends! That might be a great project one of these days...

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Posted by subfixer on Monday, November 22, 2010 8:31 AM

Model Maniac

SteveM, thanks for your kind comments. Joh is a good figure painter but I think AI do better jobs in both figure and armor.

subfixer, I don't know what your "bookends" means. Is it something similar to cardboard?

Bookends are what you use to prop up books on a shelf.

I'm from the government and I'm here to help.

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Posted by Model Maniac on Monday, November 22, 2010 5:52 AM

SteveM, thanks for your kind comments. Joh is a good figure painter but I think AI do better jobs in both figure and armor.

subfixer, I don't know what your "bookends" means. Is it something similar to cardboard?

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Posted by subfixer on Monday, November 22, 2010 4:31 AM

Are these bookends?

I'm from the government and I'm here to help.

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Posted by ajlafleche on Sunday, November 21, 2010 10:15 PM

Same old same old, but the DAK decal on the guy's shirt is just off the wall laughable. It would almost be plausible as a T-shirt, or on the bak of the shirt, but on the front of a button down shirt?

At least this guy cleaned up the mold lines...No, wait. They're still there.

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Posted by SteveM on Sunday, November 21, 2010 11:42 AM

I think Joh is one of your better painters. I plead ignorance, but the DAK logo shirt seems a bit strange to me... do they sell those at Target next to the Beatles tees?

Steve M.

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Diorama "Iraqi Insurgency" using Master Box's Iraq kit 1 and kit 2
Posted by Model Maniac on Sunday, November 21, 2010 1:40 AM

Diorama "Iraqi Insurgency" using Master Box's Iraq kit 1 and Iraq kit 2 and Thanan's Iraq War House Ruin - by "Joh":

This is from my latest page:

http://www.falconbbs.com/model57a.htm

Have fun!

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