"To late for a tow" Flak Panzer over taken

The first WW's were issued to units in Sept 44, so i would look at a vehicle in Northern France/Belgium. While its one thing to find out which units were issued these vehicles, its nigh on impossable to put any one vehicle to any unit. I have kits of all the Pz IV AA vehicles and have been looking into it quite a bit over the last year or so, but i have had to assign my vehicles to units i know had them, and will just have to do a paint scheme that could be right. Its largely guesswork with these vehicles.

The first WW's were issued to units in Sept 44, so i would look at a vehicle in Northern France/Belgium. While its one thing to find out which units were issued these vehicles, its nigh on impossable to put any one vehicle to any unit. I have kits of all the Pz IV AA vehicles and have been looking into it quite a bit over the last year or so, but i have had to assign my vehicles to units i know had them, and will just have to do a paint scheme that could be right. Its largely guesswork with these vehicles.

Lufttiger,

I think you could add some greens very easily and make this "theatre - appropriate" for the theatre in which these vehicles served. Simple bushes, ground grass powder? I always liked making bushes out of Brillo pads--spread 'em out like a bush, spray paint them dark green, and sprinkle on grass powder. When dry, airbrush some lighter green on top, even a light shade of yellow over that, and mount them on a small branched stick--they look awesome.

Good luck with whatever you decide to do!

Very nice work...love all the details and the paint job is superb as well. Thanks for sharing!

Thanks for the replys guys, i love the feed back. I wasn't sure about zimm either, but i seem to remember seeing it both with and with out, i think in a book.
Yeah the base kinda went Kaput on me, it first had a wood frame arround it, but it warped so bad i had to pull it off. My idea was for Italy, but as i've just learned from here....opps they didn't serve there. Sooooo i think i can look at adding some green? bushes maybe?, make it a southern France?
Thanks for the help Doog & Bish.

Lufttiger, some really nice work here.  Lots of detail that draws attention like the open case with spare barrels, the ammo cases strewn about, the 20mm shells, etc.  Figures are impressive, how about some close in photos of them?

 

Don

 

I've learnt more than my fair share from others on this forum, you included. So its nice to be able to pass something on myself now and again.

We all have our own approach to things, that what makes this such a varied hobby. In this case, i agree, it does need a touch of green, but probably for different reasons to you. The base makes me think of Sourthern Italy or Sciliy, but no WW served there. Given the British troops and the clothing, this scene should depict a time frame of Aug/sept 44. So yes, some green would not be out of place.

Thanks for clarifying the "Zimmerit" issue, Bish. I honestly didn't know that--but it's good to know if I don't want to zimm my WW. I was under the impression from most photographic evidence that they always had zimm.

As far as the "artistic vs realistic" argument, I have nothing more to say except that I've always stated that I"m more "artistically inclined", and would have added something green in just to make some color harmony with the vehicle. I understand where you're coming from, and am just clarifying my admitted "bias" if you want to call it that?

In any case, no problem!

the doog

Really nice--I like the paint job and the broken track! The figures are well done as well!

If I might make some observations--I dunno if I would have left the ground so bereft of anything vegetative though? It rather belies the whole idea of the camo pattern? And also, I believe that these flakpanzers had zimmerit?

But those minor points aside, it's a nice looking scene.

 

In regards to the Zimm, these vehicles didn't always have it. Wirbelwinds were built on reconditioned hulls. So it would partly be down to if the original tank had Zimm. And even if they did add it to none Zimmed hulls at Ostbau-Sagan, production only a couple of months before the addition of Zimm was haltered. At most, only about one third of Wirbels would have it. In regards to the terrain, i am going to have to disagree with you on this. For me, a Dio of this type isn't meant to be artistic but realistic. The question for me would be doesn the terrain match the terrain that this vehicle could have been seen in. But you can only know that if you know the unit and time period.

Really nice--I like the paint job and the broken track! The figures are well done as well!

If I might make some observations--I dunno if I would have left the ground so bereft of anything vegetative though? It rather belies the whole idea of the camo pattern? And also, I believe that these flakpanzers had zimmerit?

But those minor points aside, it's a nice looking scene.

 

Lovely looking Dio. The Wirbelwind looks great. Nice job

Beautiful work

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Another great work. You have a knack for doing figures.

Nice work!  Dig the tree and base.  Thanks for sharing this with us!