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BF-109 vs. P-51D (need feedback)

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BF-109 vs. P-51D (need feedback)
Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, May 22, 2004 11:45 AM
This is my first attempt at a diorama. It's 1:48 scale and the only thing i havent' completed is finishing up the outside of the box. Tell me what you think.

sorry for the blurry pictures.




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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, May 22, 2004 6:39 PM
from the pictuers,it looks prety(sp) good.my guess is there would be more damage to the port wing in such a landing,such as it almost being ripped off & may be more skewed.good luck keep going,the most important thing is that you be happy with it no matter what any one says.Thumbs Up [tup]
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Posted by madspaniard on Sunday, May 23, 2004 7:10 AM
It looks good,but if you want I can post some pics of real 109 shot down if that helps you,or look here http://www.messerschmitt-bf109.de/index-1024.php
They have alot of real shot down 109.


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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, May 23, 2004 10:11 AM
Looks very good so far, I have always wanted to do a diorama like that. I have a couple of older Bf 109 kits that might be used for that purpose.

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Posted by Jeeves on Sunday, May 23, 2004 10:23 AM
Hey-- is this one based on the Stan Stokes painting of Big Beautiful Doll?? If so-- looks preety good.... if not-- it is an amazing coincedence bro. He has one of the Mustang flying over a town and below you see a German plane (it might even be a 190) crash-landed in a field.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, May 23, 2004 8:33 PM
Well, this was my first dio so i guess you could say it was sort of an experiment to "show me the ropes". I learned a lot from it for my next diorama. I know, it isn't totally historically accurate, but i just had p-51 and bf-109 model kits and decided to not just build them, but to do something more with them. So, thanks for your input, and i'll keep you posted on any changes i make.

p.s.- no, Jeeves, i've never seen the Stan Stokes pic you are talking about with the plane shot down. Happen to know the name of it?

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Posted by Jeeves on Sunday, May 23, 2004 9:32 PM
Err... Big Beautiful Doll Wink [;)]

Here is a direct link...the crashed plane is just left of center, to the right of the river in the field between the houses....you can see the skid marks of the crash starting just left of the church steeple.

http://www.stenbergaa.com/stenberg/index.html?item862c.html

Pretty cool dio nonetheless bro
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, May 23, 2004 9:57 PM
Looks great! Especially for a first one!! I have one question and one comment. How did you suspend the P-51 in flight, is there a wire in the tree? And the one comment is that there seems to be alot of "dead space", or space where there is just nothing there. Something you can do is just put a bush or rock or debris there to fill it in. The muddy patches help, but it is not enough. That's just me being nitpicky though. Looks great!
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Posted by Dwight Ta-ala on Sunday, May 23, 2004 9:59 PM
Looks good. Nice composition, too.

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, May 23, 2004 11:36 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by scubaboy99

Looks great! Especially for a first one!! I have one question and one comment. How did you suspend the P-51 in flight, is there a wire in the tree? And the one comment is that there seems to be alot of "dead space", or space where there is just nothing there. Something you can do is just put a bush or rock or debris there to fill it in. The muddy patches help, but it is not enough. That's just me being nitpicky though. Looks great!


well, to fill that dead space, i did have a 1:48 scale tamiya kubelwagen ordered so i could have a german soldier or officer coming to pick up the downed pilot, but the website i ordered it from obviously didn't have their sh*t together, so that's the reason for the void in the middle.

Oh, and as far as mounting the mustang, i just went to the hobby shop and bought a fairly skinny plexiglass rod (they may come in packs of many, depending on what kind you get). The rod goes from the bottom of the base to the underside of the p-51.
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Posted by Vintage Aircraft on Thursday, May 27, 2004 8:32 PM
I have to say that was pritty ambitious of you to do on your first try. It is really good, and I envey you on acomplishing something this good on a first try. Keep up the good work and maby someday well see you building models for Tamiya, or even more helpfull Revell of Germany. Have you guys seen the built prototypes on there boxes Yuck!
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Posted by gringe88 on Friday, July 9, 2004 5:55 PM
pretty nice for a first try. keep it up. One question: how come the 109 is kinda perched up on the mud?Confused [%-)] is a part of plane holding it up? I'd think that the plane would have settled a bit more into the soft earth. But I don't know. neways cool dio!Thumbs Up [tup]
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Posted by fightnjoe on Friday, July 9, 2004 7:24 PM
looks pretty good to me.

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Posted by Buddho on Friday, July 9, 2004 11:58 PM
Great job on your first dio, brandon.

I like how you suspended the P-51...shows good action.
Are the landing gear on the 109 partially retracted?

Dan

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, July 10, 2004 3:34 AM
be proud.......especially on your first effort.........most ambitious....
most excellent rendering......dios are my favourite in the stirrings of one's imagination and the telling of a story.......
ya got my attention........now 'splain how you did it all.........
and thanks for sharing.......
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, July 10, 2004 8:08 AM
Brandon,

Real neat job on your first diio. Looking real good. Keep up the good work!

Richard
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, July 13, 2004 12:08 AM
well, this was actually an art project. hehe. I had built model aircraft for years and then i decided to try a dio. My Advanced 3D art teacher let me go for it...

and about the landing gear... the right strut is extended but the left one is folded under the wing so you can't really see it. I'll take a pic of the underside if you guys want to see it.

thanks for all the positive feedback. Big Smile [:D]
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 16, 2004 3:30 AM
Like, wow, man. That's cool.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 16, 2004 10:58 AM
A very nice peice of work, thanks for the pics.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, July 18, 2004 1:05 AM
Looks pretty good to me mate......
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, July 19, 2004 12:57 AM
Looks well. I also thing your 109 ( if that an f or a Gustav?) sits a bit high. Its really noticable in your side pics. I would like a pic zoomed out so we can see the whole thing in one shot if ya dont mind. I love the stang bro and that a good looking one.

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Posted by J-Hulk on Monday, July 19, 2004 10:56 AM
Nice first effort!

As others have mentioned, perhaps the 109 should be sunk into the earth a bit more.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, July 19, 2004 7:23 PM


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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, July 20, 2004 2:04 PM
Nice Brandon...love that stang. In the spirit of helping you out I would also say that your .50 cal damage is a little big to scale, it looks to me more like 20mm. It's a great dio though, lotta action and thats good. Can't wait to see your next one.... what will be about?
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, July 20, 2004 2:08 PM
Dude!!!! your link rocks man...thats awesome!!!
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, July 20, 2004 7:34 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by woodbeck3

Nice Brandon...love that stang. In the spirit of helping you out I would also say that your .50 cal damage is a little big to scale, it looks to me more like 20mm. It's a great dio though, lotta action and thats good. Can't wait to see your next one.... what will be about?



My next one involves the blue angels (you can see one of them in one of the pictures) and that's all i can say right now. Don't want to spoil the surprise ;). it's a work in progress though.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 21, 2004 2:30 AM
Do me a favor bro and email me, I gotta question for ya. Talk to ya soon.

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Posted by ajlafleche on Monday, July 26, 2004 1:09 PM
QUOTE:
[i]Originally posted by scubaboy99
[well, to fill that dead space, i did have a 1:48 scale tamiya kubelwagen ordered so i could have a german soldier or officer coming to pick up the downed pilot,


I'd fill that space with something other than a vehicle. With the P-51 cruising around like that, a Kubelwagen would be more appropriately called a Kubel-target.

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Posted by richter111 on Tuesday, July 27, 2004 3:06 PM
Nice diorama, but just a word of criticism:

Isn't the glade air freshener out of scale???????

And is it historically accurate????


Great lookin dio man keep it up
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Posted by zokissima on Tuesday, July 27, 2004 3:51 PM
Great looking dio.
If anything, as others have mentioned, I think that 109 should be sunk in much deeper into the groundwork. Might be a little difficult to do now that the work is done, but keep it in mind next time. Also, your landing gear is intact, and generally speaking, I'm fairly certain that in a crash, the lowered landing gear is the first thing to go, and is usually found a fair distance from the main crash site.
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