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Deer hair for grass?
Posted by Kevleerey on Tuesday, December 6, 2005 11:31 AM

 Finally back on the forumsBig Smile [:D].......

Took me a while to figure that out.... Anyways, I was dressing out my deer and I got to wondering, has anyone ever heard of or tried using deer hair for grass? It is also available from fly tying suppliers if you wanted to try it, but I have quite a lot of it and if it works it would be a good cheap source. Thanks for your input!

                         ---------------Kevin----------

    P.S.- OFF TOPIC for aminute here....... When I was in Canada a few years ago, I saw in a grocery store they had cans of marmite or vegex I think and it was pretty cheap. My grandparents used to get it when they lived in Africa, but here it is over $10 for an 8-ounce jar. I thouht I saw it up there for pretty cheap, does anyone know if this is true?   Thanks!

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Posted by Bgrigg on Tuesday, December 6, 2005 11:43 AM
Marmite Yeech! Yuck [yuck] I'll look next time I'm in the grocery store.

So long folks!

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Posted by gburdon on Tuesday, December 6, 2005 1:36 PM

Kevin;

Deer hair may work. Although I think it would be a lot of work to "harvest"

As far as Marmite $3.99 here in Ontario. Canadian Dollars.

Cheers;

Gregory

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Posted by Kevleerey on Tuesday, December 6, 2005 3:12 PM

Hey, everybody.

Thanks for the price checkk. I see you both are familiar with the stuff.

gburdon-- If by "the harvest" you mean of the animal, that's taken care of already, if you mean how to protect or preserve it, it just dries if you cut it off (you can preserve the hide too with salt) and some places you can get it prestained for fly tying and it looks kind of like grass but I think if you paint it it would probably look better. I could probably send you some if you would like to try it. It's probably not a whole lot different than some of the hairs they use in paint brushes, though I'm not sure.

---------Thanks again----------------------------------------kEvIn

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Posted by sasd on Tuesday, December 6, 2005 7:43 PM
Hi Kev,the Woodland Scenics tall grasses and straw/hay products are deer hair dyed and yes some stores do carry deerhair in various colours in the sports depts. for making fishing flies. It`s something that I do have alot of but haven`t used very much as yet,but soon,many projects yet to come!
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Posted by gburdon on Wednesday, December 7, 2005 2:59 PM

Kevin;

Thanks for the offer. Currently I am swamped with work. My modeling is taking a back seat to my case log. As well I have enough Woodland Scenic grasses in the bench drawer for the project I have in mind.

By "Harvest" I meant how you would retrieve it all. I have enough trouble keeping German Sheperd fur and Cat fur from collecting in my work area. How you would collect all the hair from a deer and process it without tracking it with you everywhere is really what I meant.

Cheers;

Gregory

 

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Posted by Kevleerey on Wednesday, December 7, 2005 10:04 PM

Hey everybody!

            To preserve the fur I think if you just cut off a section of the hide and scraped off all the fat and salted it then it would dry in nice little squares. Then you could keep them in a ziplock bag until you are ready to use them. The tail, which is the main part they usually sell in stores, dries very nicely too. Most of it will not be used though, I gave my dog most of it to chew on, but a little will last for quite a while I'm sure at least until next year. Cowboy [C):-)]

By the way...does anybody else here hunt/fish much?                                                  

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Posted by HeavyArty on Wednesday, December 7, 2005 10:58 PM

Now I know what the line from the Men at Work song, "Down Under", is referring to...

"He just smiled and gave me a Vegemite sandwich..."

 

Interresting facts you can find out about here on FSM...

 

Haven't had either, but I have been told Vegemite is better than Marmite....

 

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Posted by wing_nut on Wednesday, December 7, 2005 11:21 PM
 HeavyArty wrote:

Haven't had either, but I have been told Vegemite is better than Marmite....

Then Marmite must be some nasty stuff.  I had Vegemite once, when I worked with an Aussie guy many years ago, and to say that it an acquired taste would be the understatement of the year.

 

 

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Posted by grizz30_06 on Wednesday, December 14, 2005 4:00 PM

Hey I know this is a little late to get in on but it's not like we have anything else better to do.  I must say that vegemite is an aquired taste that I found I enjoy the secret is you DO NOT spread it on like peanut butter a little goes a long way.  And as far as deer hair goes, I HAVE ANOTHER REASON TO GO HUNTIN'.  Unfortunately the deer are not cooperating this year.  I have seen several but I was never able to get a shot (well not entirely true I should have remember the old saying a doe in your sights is better than the buck that ani't goin' show).  I wonder if squirrel hair would work (I see them ALL the time).  Let us know how the hair thing works.

Grizz

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Posted by zokissima on Thursday, December 15, 2005 7:52 AM
what the heck is marmite or vegemite?
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Posted by Spurdog on Tuesday, December 20, 2005 8:35 AM

 zokissima wrote:
what the heck is marmite or vegemite?

Bovril in disguise, I believe.Big Smile [:D]

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Posted by grizz30_06 on Tuesday, December 20, 2005 9:26 AM

Bovril in disguise, I believe.Big Smile <img src=" src="/FSM/CS/emoticons/icon_smile_big.gif">


I know that vegemite is a yeast extract (I think) but what is Bovril?

Grizz

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, December 20, 2005 3:43 PM
Dear hair would be perfect but then you risk the hazard of dear ticks infesting the dio, not to mention the hobby room...   ;)
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Posted by Bgrigg on Tuesday, December 20, 2005 10:32 PM
 grizz30_06 wrote:

Bovril in disguise, I believe.Big Smile <img src=" src="/FSM/CS/emoticons/icon_smile_big.gif">


I know that vegemite is a yeast extract (I think) but what is Bovril?

Grizz



Bovril used to be a beef extract, sort of a concentrated consomme soup. Now it too is a yeast extract along with Marmite and Vegemite. All of which taste YUCKY! Yuck [yuck]

So long folks!

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Posted by grizz30_06 on Wednesday, December 21, 2005 8:05 AM
 Bgrigg wrote:
 grizz30_06 wrote:

Bovril in disguise, I believe.Big Smile <img src=" src="/FSM/CS/emoticons/icon_smile_big.gif">


I know that vegemite is a yeast extract (I think) but what is Bovril?

Grizz



Bovril used to be a beef extract, sort of a concentrated consomme soup. Now it too is a yeast extract along with Marmite and Vegemite. All of which taste YUCKY! Yuck [yuck]

Well I still liked it to each his own.

 

Hey don't worry to much about deer ticks if you treat the hide correctly.  I know for one that I would not want a freshly skinned hide in my house.  And, the ticks will leave the hide soon after harvesting the deer.  They are not scavengers, they prefer their meals "on the hoof".  I say this because of various articles I have read about deer processing.  Personaly I take my deer to the processor and have them done up.  I think that I am going to try some squirrel hair.  They are much easier to dress.

Grizz

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Posted by gburdon on Wednesday, December 21, 2005 12:32 PM

I can see it now PETA protests at all model shows featuring dioramas with Hair Grass Big Smile [:D] Oh what fun!

I look at it this way. If you can find it and it works for you all the better. No one can accuse you of not using every inch of the animal. It is not for sport it's for art!

Cheers;

Gregory

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Posted by Kevleerey on Saturday, December 31, 2005 6:00 PM

Hey, everybody!

Sorry to take so long to reply, haven't had much time lately....

Anyways, about squirrel hair, I'm sure it would work just fine, they are practically the same. Both are used for the same purpose in fly tying, and they have about the same texture. Well, the tail at least, that's all I use usally. There are probably all kinds of hair you could use, maybe you could even use people hair when you get ahaircut, but I'm not gonna try that, I'll stick with the deer and squirrel for now.
By the way-- did you know you can sell squirrel tails to Mepp's- around 36c for your normal fox squirrel, and they double in value if you ttrade them for lures.I think you could probably cut the tails off them if you run over them. There are dead squirrels out here all the time, but I haven't ever used roadkill animals, but i'm sure they'd work if you got 'em fresh enough....
   As for the ticks, the few that were left I'm sure froze pretty quick after I hung 'er up in the tree, but still I wouldn't want plain hide in the house, but salted and dried it's not too bad.

   And yes, marmite is pretty nasty plain, the way my grandparents use it is they make marmite butter- you just mix it in with some butter, I'm not sure how much you use, but it is pretty good (In my opinion) if it is not really strong. My grandma also mixes it in with her gravy for potatoes and it is not too bad.

------Thanks again everybody for your comments!-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------KEVIN-------------------------------------------------

 

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