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2 piece diorama of Market Garden

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2 piece diorama of Market Garden
Posted by Tankluver on Monday, July 3, 2006 10:34 PM

I just got a great idea for a Market Garden diorama idea. I just thought of making the Arnhem bridge and i think its the Nijmegan bridge were the tanks come across and machine gun the Germans on the Bridge.

On the Arnhem bridge I would Make the German counter attack were they get slaughtered by the British.Im thinking of putting a StugIII a Sdkfz 251 and a Pz. II and some Waffen SS infantry.

But i dont know about making the Nijmegan bridge.

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Posted by gburdon on Tuesday, July 4, 2006 10:40 PM

Tankluver:

Depending on the scale you intend to build this in it will be huge. The Arnhem Bridge even in 1/72 scale would be a large undertaking. Good Luck. Remember to do your reference before you begin. You may want to pick up a few books from the local hobby shop in the train modeller section to understand construction of the bridge spans.

Cheers;

Gregory

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Posted by Tankluver on Wednesday, July 5, 2006 2:42 AM
It would not be of the full bridge but of like about a 1/4 part of it. And it would be in 1/35 scale.
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Posted by gburdon on Wednesday, July 5, 2006 10:37 AM

Tankluver:

In 1/35 scale even a 1/4 of the Arnhem bridge will be huge. Here is an article to give you an idea of the dimensions. It is in 1/32 scale, however it is only slightly larger than a 1:35 scale would be.

http://www.hjb-figures.de/buildings.htm

Good luck

Cheers;

Gregory

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Posted by Tankluver on Wednesday, July 5, 2006 11:47 AM
Wow that was big but i want to make it so that i have the front part and then part of the bridge slop in the middle and then i would probably put 2 halftracks and probably a lite tank like a panzer II. supported by some waffen S.S. foot soldiers.
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Posted by rebelreenactor on Wednesday, July 5, 2006 1:02 PM

theres no way the SS would be using a pz II in Arnhem. The SS was the best supplied with new equipment.  The pz II was quite outdated, even for a command tank. Do some more research, find the units that were there, there unit markings and what aequipment they were using. Dioramas with hug inaccuracies (link a tank with markings from a unit that only served on the east front, in a western front dio) are major turnoff. The dio could be huge and perfectly built, but the simple inaccuracies make it a bad dio. 

My 2 cents [2c]

John
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Posted by MontanaCowboy on Wednesday, July 5, 2006 7:49 PM

Something tells me this dio will never come to be.... Again, like everyone has said, do your research!

Come on, 3 + armored vehicles, each taking at least 50 hours to build, plus 25 soldiers about? and a highly complex bridge in 1/35.... Let's think this through, how about a 1/72 dio? costing about $90 total. Now, let's say that same dio in 1/35.... 3 armor kits $100, a crapload of styrene stock $30, figures $40, paint $30. $200 there and that's not including supplies, accessories, diorama bases, time, etc. So, basically over $300 worth of something that may be innacurate, not make sense, and poorly planned.

I'm seriously not trying to discourage you at all. Just, like I said before, trying to open your eyes.

Also, this is the third or fourth dio ideas you've posted here that are on this immense size with the same amount of thought put into each one. If you can't keep one idea at a time, how can you expect to invest MANY hours in one area?

Also, this site is one of the best resources ever for this kind of research.

I'm sorry if I came off as mean, but, this is my opinion...

Tankluver, have you checked your E-mail lately?

"You know, Life is like a Rollercoaster. Sometimes you just die unexpectedly." No wait, that's not it.
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  • From: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Posted by zokissima on Tuesday, July 11, 2006 8:34 AM
It really is an ambitious idea, and hey, if you have the time and space, go for it. I love anything so grand in scale, so if anything ever came of it, it would be super cool.
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Posted by Fish-Head Aric on Tuesday, July 11, 2006 12:51 PM

Ya know, seems to me there's nothing wrong with coming to these forums to brainstorm and brainfart... It's one thing to be able to come and throw up and out one's ideas and see what other people think... that's what the forums are for, right?

The only time I would say "come down on da bum" would be if it were a commit to a group build, where there are definite expectations amongst a group with a shared goal of projects.  I know, because I have failed to put out in two group builds to date, due largely to other "life commitments" that have taken my time... and I am rather ashamed of myself for that.

As for what Tankluver has going - he really wants to put forth some ambitious ideas for sure, but it's not hurting anyone with false expectations is it? 

In the end of course we'd all love to see what you have coming Tankluver, so share all the pretty pictures as they develop???

~Aric Fisher aric_001@hotmail.com
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 12, 2006 12:50 PM

hello,

I'm new here and I live in nijmegen. i can tell, this bridge is huge! but if you want to have some details i can take some pictures. tell me what kind of photo's you want (details, overall photo). i am very often in arnhem so pictures of the bridge in arnhem shouldn't be a problem either.

greets, robin

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Posted by MortarMagnet on Wednesday, July 12, 2006 1:07 PM
Ironhawk, you will be a very popular photographer here.Smile [:)]
Brian
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 12, 2006 1:18 PM

i guess so. i can travell by train for free so Arnhem and other locations in the netherlands are no problem at all:). we also have the army museum in overloon and i will go there in the vacantionWink [;)] i manly build armour and ancient boats(biremes, the batavia)

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Posted by MortarMagnet on Wednesday, July 12, 2006 1:23 PM
Well, it's good to have you around.  I'm more interested in seeing some of your work and conversation.
Brian
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