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Omaha Beach diorama figures, need lots, any ideas? Also, realistic bullet splashes?
Posted by IanIsBored2000 on Wednesday, October 11, 2006 7:57 PM

I know this fits more in figures section, but I know that you diorama builders know a ton about realistic positioning, deployment and everything else about figures, so I posted in both. Okay, heres the deal, I have always been in love with the US LCVP, but even more so, the LCM(3), And after doing a small stream on a recent Normandy diorama, I think I am confident enough with my water sculpting skills to atleast attempt an Omaha beach diorama.  I know the beach from shore to cliff is far too long to replicate in 1/35 scale, so I am only going to have the shore with an LCM, and a few meters of the beach, covered in hedgehog barricades.  I know it would take forever and tons of money to make the huge realistic amount of troops on board and LCM, but I want to do lots better than just one set of 6 or 7 rangers and infantry running off the boat.  Im looking for atleast 18-25+ or so US infantry in the scence, plus the 3 LCM crew.  So, since its the italeri kit Im buying, It comes with 6 perfect soldiers, plus I will get the dragon kit of 4 Normandy rangers, for a total of 10, so Im looking for abtleast 8-15+ more US infantry or more rangers, that are in a somewhat combat ready position, or could maybe be converted from a march to a sprint, does that make sense?  The set Ive been looking at is the Tamiya European US infantry set of 8 and a couple of the Tamiya US assault infantry which I already have, which, although I know wont be perfectly accurate,(Im not completely into making everything perfect) will they be at all realistic with slight modification and painting?  If not maybe I will just buy two sets of rangers and another set of the infantry that come with the ship, and make different positions so it doesnt look like duplicates.  Any other ideas? 1/35 US infantry and rangers are hard to come buy for WW2.  So what do you guys think? I really want it too look like tons of men sprinting off the ship for cover behind hedgehog barricades, maybe a few jumping overboard and wading to shore underfire.  I can use any that dont look quite right for the assault or arent in combat positions as casualties.  So any advice on figures? 

Heres an amazing picture which will be the reference for the beach terrain mostly

 

And lastly, does anyone know how to make realistic bullet splashes with resin, cotton, and other clear/white common things?  I want it to look as if the boat has attracted the attention of an MG gunner up on the cliffs, I have had some fairly pleasing results with accidental resin drips looking like little splashes of resin water, any other ideas please?

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Posted by SteveM on Wednesday, October 11, 2006 9:02 PM
Hi Ian

This cracks me up, because this subject was my second dio. Wound up being 4 feet long. Has got 35+ men on it.

Mainly I used:
Tamiya's West Euro Theater, Assault Infantry, Combat Group -used mulitple sets of eachand changed around like you said

Dragon's Rangers, 29th Infantry

Even used germans' torso and legs to make variations, just place them in the water.

I have pretty much gone to resin figures. I have TONS of plastic figure parts leftover, including lots of hedgehog barricades, gear, weapons- you name it. Still have some fully mage guys that didn't make the cut for the beach.

Do you want this stuff? This leftover stuff is over a hundred of dollars in worth. I'll cut you a GREAT deal. It is, after all, just taking up my space. Write back or email me: stevefbm@yahoo.com to discuss. I'll get a list of everything that I'd part with that related to the Omaha project.

Steve M.

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Posted by Tankluver on Wednesday, October 11, 2006 11:06 PM
SteveM did you ever put up a post of your omaha beach dio i would really like to see a few pictures of your dio.
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Posted by Model Maniac on Thursday, October 12, 2006 2:05 AM

I would suggest LCM3 Crew from Trumpeter (sold separately, 3 figures) and perhaps
US. Support Weapons Teams (6 figures) from Dragon. I still have Trumpeter's LCM3
in stock, but won't use it for dio because the base will have to be huge. I don't have that
much space. My modeler built a small dio under the same name (though with wrong
vehicle). He used just 6 Omaha Beach figures from Dragon :

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Posted by SteveM on Thursday, October 12, 2006 6:47 AM
Ian, the more I think about it, I have everything you need, including an LCM (new), 2 LCVPs (1 new, 1 started), the Trumpeter LCM crew, real beach sand, the works! Let me know if you're interested. 1-stop Omaha dio shop, if you wantWink [;)]

 Tankluver wrote:
SteveM did you ever put up a post of your omaha beach dio i would really like to see a few pictures of your dio.


I never finished the dio; it serves as a reminder and warning that large dios take an incredible amount of patience. At the risk of hijacking Ian's thread, here's a shot:


If you want to see more, go to:

http://s101.photobucket.com/albums/m48/stevem512/Dios/Omaha%20Beach/

Feel free to look around, nothing special.

SteveM

Steve M.

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Posted by IanIsBored2000 on Thursday, October 12, 2006 2:31 PM

Wow SteveM, amazing how lucky I can get from replies in this forum!  Ill drop you an email later tonight in case you dont read this, but I would definately love to hear what you have and how much you are asking.  I have no great LHS, and if I have to buy each thing from seperate websites shipping can rack up pretty quickly.  What Im interested more or less is, as i said before US infantry/rangers/medics/casualties/ suitable for D day, also as I said they dont have to be perfectly realistic, just close.  Also, Ive been looking for hedgehogs and/or other barricades.  Posibly some of the sand depending on what I can find here. The LCM i have been looking for is the italeri one, as it comes with the 3 crew, 6 figures of the 29th infantry and some nice barrels and such, I  found one on ebay thats around 48 US dollars or so, so thats probably what ill get, but if you find one cheaper anywhere please tell me.  The trumpeter one looks just as good, just doesnt have the 9 figures which is a nice bonus. Also how much were you asking for LCVP's?  Sorry this is so long, its just that like you said, you have just about everything i could ever need for this.  Lastly, Im not sure if I specified before, but for vehcles and figures I use 1/35, no 1/72.  Im not to picky about things like barrels, hedgehogs, accesories etc, though so they could be anywhere from like 1/30 to almost 1/40.  Leave me an Email at IanIsBored2000@yahoo.com if your interested still! Thanks for the time.

 

EDIT:  I forgot to add, I prefer unmade things, I like getting to build it myself.  However this isnt to say I dont want anything thats made at all. Also for figures, its not a big deal if theyre already glued together, since I can just paint over them however I like or just leave them if I like them.  But like I said my first choice is unmade stuff.  Thanks again.

 

Also, thanks a lot model maniac, that another great reference of water/beach/figures that I will definately use for my diorama!

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, October 12, 2006 5:04 PM
Can't help with the dio Ian, but the dio you posted there for reference is amazing! It has got to be one of the best dios I have ever seen, the water is extreamly well done, don't know you could get better!
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Posted by IanIsBored2000 on Thursday, October 12, 2006 5:20 PM
I know, that picture is just incredible, the water looks like it has so much depth and that deep green churned up sea color.  If you want to see more pictures of it, I found it by going to google images, typing in "Omaha Diorama".  If you click on it it takes you to a website, then you just find the picture of it, and theres about 20 more pictures.  Unfortunately, the page is in ?japanese?, sorry I dont know other languages well.  Does anyone know how to translate it? I would love to know how he/she did the sand and the water!
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Posted by ajlafleche on Thursday, October 12, 2006 7:30 PM

 IanIsBored2000 wrote:
.  Unfortunately, the page is in ?japanese?, sorry I dont know other languages well.  Does anyone know how to translate it? I would love to know how he/she did the sand and the water!

http://babelfish.altavista.com/ 

Highlight and copy form the original page and paste it into the text box at Babel fish. The translation can be rough, but you may get the gist. However, that may be Thai or Vietnamese which are not on their list. It's definitely not Japanese, Chinese or Korean.

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Posted by SteveM on Thursday, October 12, 2006 11:08 PM
OK, Ian. As promised, I have got the pics for you before midnight. Photos don't do justice as to the quantity of stuff. You could make Omaha several times overSmile [:)]








Like I said in the email, anything that I've already built or started, I'd throw in for nothing. Use guys as filler, use LCVP as wrecked (That was my next plan for a Beach dio; wrecked. partiallty sunk with casualties all over, based on some reference I've read).

Steve M.

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Posted by rcf4711 on Friday, April 16, 2010 4:54 AM

Hi have you done your diorama yet ? is it possible to send some pics and maybe some advice for creating water from resin ? avoq50@dsl.pipex.com

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