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Tugboat Diorama
Posted by daveinthehat on Sunday, May 27, 2007 8:18 PM

This is still in progress. I had way too many problems with the base. Stupid stuff kept going wrong. I think I have a pretty good handle on it now. Things should move pretty quick now.

 

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Posted by T-rex on Monday, May 28, 2007 2:20 PM
Doing good sofar, but is it me or does those waves look like chocolate.

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Posted by daveinthehat on Monday, May 28, 2007 2:40 PM
They're not waves. Those are holes that the tugboats fit in. When I first painted it the water looked kinda like chocolate. I added more yellow/blue. I put some pieces of clear acrylic over the water. It should look kinda like muddy water with a bit of slime in it when I pour the 'water' in it.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, May 28, 2007 7:06 PM
That's gonna be an awesome addition to Davetown. Should be a pretty good fishing spot down there at the waterhole with the Tugs.
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Posted by daveinthehat on Tuesday, May 29, 2007 11:57 AM

I added some more yellow and blue to the water so it didn't look quite as brown. After more stupid problems I got the sand in and the bridge painted. I haven't decided on all the elements that I'm going to use yet. I'm going to start on the grass and other green stuff and make some trees next. Here's a preview of how it looks with the tugs.

 

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Posted by T-rex on Tuesday, May 29, 2007 12:27 PM

So far I see teo problems.

First your grounds work good, if it was in the desert, it jsut looks silly, if you know what I mean.

Also why are all your tug at the same spot, and whyare they at shord, are the sranded, it would look alot better if there was a dock or something like that.

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Posted by Yann Solo on Tuesday, May 29, 2007 12:39 PM
Looks good Dave.  It gives a feel of the size of these Tug boats.  I thought the were smaller than that.  Keep the good work.
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Posted by daveinthehat on Tuesday, May 29, 2007 1:23 PM

T-rex, the ground work isn't finished yet. It's just the base. I'm going to add grass, weeds and trees. The tugs are run aground. When I pour the resin they should be almost under water.

Kinda like this. http://www.opacity.us/image2998_lined_up.htm

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Posted by T-rex on Tuesday, May 29, 2007 1:32 PM
Ow sorry, never done a real dio before, so I don't know what ground work looks like, But Why are the tug are run aground, are the stranded convenietly in front of a highway?

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Posted by madspaniard on Tuesday, May 29, 2007 2:01 PM

Your Tugboats are very good ,perhaps the other side of the street should be more green,or other terrain.Great job

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Posted by psstoff995 on Wednesday, May 30, 2007 9:50 AM
Very cool! Im looking forward to the grass. What kind of problems were you having with the base and ground work?

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Posted by ajlafleche on Wednesday, May 30, 2007 12:18 PM

Construction and water look quite good. I like the ground work, it looks like the sandy, rocky coastal soil of southern New England.

But it looks like you may have several mixed scales here. The VW is as large as the panel truck. The rails on the tugs are almost as tall as the figure next to the truck. The boats overpower the size of the road and bridge.

In the image above, you'll note the captain/pilot in the wheelhouse reaches almost to the roof making the rails about waist height. Compare that to the figure you have in your dio and you'll see what I mean.

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Posted by daveinthehat on Wednesday, May 30, 2007 1:28 PM

The problems I had with the base were stuff not drying and things not sticking. I'm not sure what scale the tugs are. For the larger one I cut the cabin down to make it apear closer to HO scale. The smaller 2 measure about 85 feet in HO scale. The panel always looked small to me. I think the VW is right for HO scale.

I'm hoping everything will look right when it's all together even though some things are a little bit out of scale. There really isn't much to pick from in the way of HO scale boats that are in my price range. 

Here's a picture with the guy that came with the kit and an HO scale guy.  

 

 Thanks for for your comments and input. I appreciate it.

There are more pictures on my Fotki page.

http://public.fotki.com/DaveInTheHat/davetown/ 

 

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Posted by the doog on Wednesday, May 30, 2007 5:27 PM

COOOL!!! I love old rusty things! All the better if they're in a dio!

Looking really good with the tugs! What's gonna be happening with them? ARE they stuck/old/rusting away?  

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Posted by daveinthehat on Wednesday, May 30, 2007 10:39 PM

The tugs are run aground. Its a tug boat graveyard, for lack of a better term.

Thanks for looking! 

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Posted by T-rex on Wednesday, May 30, 2007 10:55 PM
Wait a minute, if its a tug graveyard then why is it in front of a highway?

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Posted by HeavyArty on Wednesday, May 30, 2007 11:13 PM

 T-rex wrote:
Wait a minute, if its a tug graveyard then why is it in front of a highway?

Why not??  If you go down to the waterfront area in almost any coastal city, there are areas where maintenance is done on boats, known as dry docks. Most have an area where old boats are put out to pasture.  A boat junkyard or graveyard. Some are next to roads and highways.

 

The dio and tugs are looking great.  Keep us posted on your progress.

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Posted by CG Bob on Wednesday, May 30, 2007 11:19 PM

Here are some pictures from an actual tugboat graveyard.  The pictures were taken around NYC, where old boats tend to be run aground and abandoned in the various mud flats away from most people.  The old boats tend to be run aground at high tide, so the wreckers have easier access to the more valuable parts.  There are similar areas around the Great Lakes, and in all major coastal ports.  That isn't a highway, just a 2 lane access road for the wreckers. 

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Posted by T-rex on Thursday, May 31, 2007 9:55 AM

So there literaly rottening away, well now I know what a untakling care of boat looks like.

How did you do the water?

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Posted by daveinthehat on Thursday, May 31, 2007 10:30 AM
For the 'water' I used Windsor & Newton oil colour. Raw Umber, Burnt Sienna, Yellow Ochre, and Philo Blue. After I get everything in place I'm going to pour clear resin and use Woodland Scenics water effects.
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Posted by daveinthehat on Thursday, May 31, 2007 12:50 PM

I did some more work on the bridge, I'm not sure if I'm happy with it or not. I'm thinking about adding some color to it. I started adding green stuff. I still need bushes, weeds and a couple trees.

 

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Posted by telsono on Tuesday, June 5, 2007 4:04 PM

Dave - maybe a railroad bridge that's out of use may get that rusty, but would a highway bridge? The worst condition back water highway bridge I have seen still had at least 50% of the paint still visible. Aluminum paint is used a lot in these situations. The city or county road department would be one this one to clean her up. Especially come near election time. Wink [;)] Just my 2 cents.

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Posted by T-rex on Tuesday, June 5, 2007 4:16 PM
A railroad bridge would be better than a hightway bridge, it would make it seens more industrial, a much better place for tugboat scrapyard.

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Posted by the doog on Tuesday, June 5, 2007 7:55 PM
 telsono wrote:

Dave - maybe a railroad bridge that's out of use may get that rusty, but would a highway bridge? The worst condition back water highway bridge I have seen still had at least 50% of the paint still visible. Aluminum paint is used a lot in these situations. The city or county road department would be one this one to clean her up. Especially come near election time. Wink [;)] Just my 2 cents.

Mike T.

Hmmm, I don't know about that--I think that in a backwater ol' graveyard/industrial hole, the department might just forgo the whole face lift to save funds--but it IS a worthwhile point...I think that the rust on the bridge might be a nice harmonic balance to the rusting boats.

Sometimes I think it can be possible to give a little too much to "accuracy" and forget that what we're creating is "art". and that exceptions and artistic lisence can be just as important as spot-on accuracy.

I think it's looking great! 

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Posted by daveinthehat on Tuesday, June 5, 2007 10:39 PM
I tried to make the road look a little more worn and had more problems. Something weird happend and the plaster got messed up. Kind of a disaster. I'm begining to think this base in jinxed or something. Might be a few days before I have any more progress to show.
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Posted by telsono on Wednesday, June 6, 2007 5:03 PM

Dave- Maybe an abandoned stretch of railroad line would be better than a road. The rails could be all rusted up with weeds growing all over the place. Add debris such as broken crates and miscellaneous junk strawn about. Scatter some 1/8" squares of crinkled tissue (not facial) paper around to add to the effect. Just to give it the sense of being an abandoned part of the world.

Take this as just an off the cuff comment, its your diorama and you are the artist.

Mike T.

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Posted by T-rex on Wednesday, June 6, 2007 9:03 PM
Ya, that's what I meant, but since its an industrial part, there less chance that grass would grow, healthy. you mit have to remove it, and maybey add a small building, I don't know a hanger or some sort.

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Posted by psstoff995 on Thursday, June 7, 2007 9:48 AM
I woulnd worry about the bridge, and the grass looks nice. What did you do to model it? The only thing I might comment on would be what looks like a seam in the road, but if you were doing more too it to make it look damaged and more or less unused/barely used then maybe that's one of the above stated problems you were having, in which case you dont need to hear more about it. The water looks nice, maybe its the lighting, but it doesnt look as brown, more blueish now.

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Posted by daveinthehat on Saturday, June 9, 2007 7:49 PM
I gave up on the base and started a new one. Pretty much the same layout. I made the road on a bit of a hill and made it higher so the bridge wont be so close to the water. So far no problems. I got some plaster on the foam to fill gaps and smooth some out some rough spots. As soon as thats dry I can make the road and paint the water and I should be back to where I was.
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Posted by T-rex on Monday, June 11, 2007 4:51 PM
Wooden scenis makes many product for water effect, when heated and melt it becomes a gel for water.

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