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jagdpanther/burnt-out sherman dio
Posted by the doog on Thursday, August 9, 2007 12:38 AM

Hey guys; I finished this just before joining these forums and never have entered it in a contest or anything, so I thought I'd put it up here and let ya throw some comments at it! It's a 1/72 dio of two old ESCI kits, the Jagdpanther and an M4 Sherman, which came with an engine, so...I had to do something to show it off. I'd never done a burnt-out tank prior to this, but figures I'd give it a go. 

I also have seen pics of this Jacdpanther in several books and thought it was a pretty cool camo scheme. I put them in a dio; it's late winter/early spring (Operation Nordwind, maybe?) and the big cat is moving past a "Ronson" taken out earlier in the campaign...

The ground is Celluclay, the water is epoxy tinted with paint; the barbed wire is string with tied knots, the figures are Hasegawa...

THe Sherman: the rubber on the wheels was sanded off to simulate fire damage...

Here you can see the engine. Painting and weathering was done in acrylics, with an airbrush. 

 

The camo was painted freehand with a brush, in  Dark Yellow, White, and Primer Red...

 

Comments and questions are welcomed! Thanks in advance to the guys who take the time to respond! 

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  • From: AusTx, Live Music Capitol of the World
Posted by SteveM on Thursday, August 9, 2007 5:52 AM

Doog, this looks great. My favorite aspects:

Love the camo and weathering on the Jadgpanther. Nice steady hand on the painting and the roadwheels look fabulous. Sherman burn out looks incredible. Very realistic (not that I've ever seen one up close). Can't imagine working that tiny engine with my big fat fingers. Nice touch to the surrounding ground. The groundwork overall looks great. Man, that road looks like a drag to be on. Nice figure painting as well.

I only have one question- would the sand bags be around after a fire? Not a criticism, just an honest inquiry... 

Steve M.

On the workbench: ginormous Kharkov dio

 

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Posted by mg42gunner on Thursday, August 9, 2007 7:07 AM
I really like that diorama. 1/72 lets you build scenes that in 1/35 would be too big, and the spacing between the tanks doesnt look crowded. I also like the camo on your figures, that is some fine paint work.
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Posted by Boomerang on Thursday, August 9, 2007 7:39 AM

Hey Doog, very nice. That burnt out Sherman is teriffic. Burnt out tanks would have to be one of the hardest things to model and make it look effective. I think you got this one right!

  Boomer

 

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Posted by IanIsBored2000 on Thursday, August 9, 2007 1:00 PM
I love the look of the burnt out white-wash paint job, looks really cool.  After hearing SteveM bring it up though, i made me wonder about those sandbags as well Confused [%-)]  Looks great either way!
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Posted by the doog on Thursday, August 9, 2007 2:42 PM

 IanIsBored2000 wrote:
I love the look of the burnt out white-wash paint job, looks really cool.  After hearing SteveM bring it up though, i made me wonder about those sandbags as well Confused [%-)]  Looks great either way!
Thanks a lot, guys; I appreciate the feedback--I understand your doubts about the sandbags, but the way I visualized the fire, it was mainly engine-related and wouldn't necessarilly have travelled down to the front of the Shermy--note that the paint on the front is still OD, so I modelled the bags because I figured that: 1. the fire wasn't near enough to burn 'em up, and, 2. given the time of year and the evidence of the wet weather (the condition of the road), that they would've been filled with wet sand and too wet to actually burn...but, it IS a valid observation, no doubt! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg] Don't be reluctant to criticize, SteveM, it's the only way I'm gonna improve!

Ian, that's not whitewash; when metal gets super-heated, it turns white. You can see some photos every now and then in books like TANKS ILLUSTRATED "Last of the Panzers", the EXCELLENT new series "PANZERWRECKS", and the Concord book "Panzers in the Gunsights"  where the tanks are just bleached from the fire.

I think it's a cool effect to model; I've actually done a 1/35 PzIV-J that's blown up and burnt-out that I just found out from Matt Usher will be published in the January '08 Finescale Modeler! It'll be in a dio called "SPOOKED!" that won "Best of Show" at IPMS SYRCON '06. I've been itching to post photos of it, but I think I'll wait until it's published.

Thanks for responding, everybody! 

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  • From: AusTx, Live Music Capitol of the World
Posted by SteveM on Thursday, August 9, 2007 3:21 PM

I figured that there was perhaps a chance the fire didn't reach... like you said, the OD is still there. I hadn't thought about the moisture factor. Nicely thought out. Can't wait to see the dio in FSM... you keep teasing us with itLaugh [(-D]

Steve 

Steve M.

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Posted by IanIsBored2000 on Thursday, August 9, 2007 5:14 PM
And yet again I prove that I have a brain roughly the size of a walnut. Smile [:)]  Great dio though, and interesting about the metal.
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Posted by ajlafleche on Friday, August 10, 2007 7:47 AM

Ah, the old ESCI M4A1 Sherman. I have a soft spopt in my heart for that kit. It was my first superdetailing effort.

Nice dio. I've seen that Jagpanther pattern before. All nice ly done by you. One thing would have added to it...with a shellhit in the side of the turret, I'd have opened the hatches, maybe even taken one of the three pieces off completely and stuck it in the ground like a dart.

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Posted by katootsv2 on Friday, August 10, 2007 8:49 AM

Hey!!! Nice work done doog!!!! Love the burnt shermy!!!

About the wheels on the Jagdpanther, since the tracks is covered with mud, personally feel that the wheels too clean in which it should have the same amount of "mud" effect on it like the tracks. 

Overall, simply love it!!!!  

-Thanks Winson
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Posted by the doog on Saturday, August 11, 2007 10:10 AM

Thanks ajlafleche, and katoots, for the comments and your observations!

I wanted to show that the crew hadn't survived the hits on the Sherman; but you're probably right--the hit itself probably would have blown open the hatches. But then I would've had to detail the turret interior, and that was too much work to consider at the time! Zzz [zzz]Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

I think I'll stand by the mud effect on the wheels, although they probably might've been muddier in real life; then again, unless the tank had really buried itself in a mudhole, from photos I used as reference, the wheels stayed reasonably clean even in mud like this--those wide tracks gave good ground/weight pressure and kept the Jag pretty well high in the muddy conditions... 

It's something to mull over though for next time though! Thanks for commenting guys!  Big Smile [:D]

 

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  • From: Somewhere over the rainbow
Posted by m1garand on Saturday, August 11, 2007 3:09 PM

Doog,

I have built those same two ESCI kits back in early 1990's and I'm pretty sure that I have them somewhere in my storage area.  I love those ESCI kits (back then, I really didn't care for the accuracy) for price and relatively easy to build. 

As usual, your work speaks for itself so I won't say anymore. 

 

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