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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, January 14, 2008 10:45 AM
...you aren't gonna rest till those lamp-posts break apart, are you?  LOL...
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Posted by vespa boy on Monday, January 14, 2008 9:35 AM

FYI This is what happens when a cast iron manhole cover received a hard hit...not a lot of bending:

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Posted by jadgpanther302 on Friday, January 4, 2008 3:56 PM
i swear thi was at the hobby emporium panza. Your dios are awesome. much better than i cuold do.
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Posted by panzerguy on Wednesday, January 2, 2008 4:48 PM
Thank's longbow and you too vespa boy. I am going to straighten the post and leave a shrapnel hole.I'll post a pic when I'm done.In the meantime I'm gonna post some pic's of my first snow scean and there are no lamppost in it.

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Posted by Longbow on Wednesday, January 2, 2008 4:29 PM

Hi.............

 

Firstly what a really great piece of story telling you've produced - captures and promotes a lot of tension and atmosphere.

Regards your discovery of the under represented damage to the street lamp!........ Well you claim or allude to it being a simple piece produced at little cost, so you could just let it slip by knowing that you'll probably be one of its few observers to ever know any difference.

However, the effort put into the build is where the real value lies, the integrity of your understanding of the scene has now been re-focused, but yet your natural eye for an excellent compositional piece means to change its strong outline by reducing the height would I feel also reduce the sense of drama within which you've enthused the scene!!

My counsel would be to straighten the lampost - repair and reduce the amount of damage, but perhaps take onboard your eye witness accounts and place discretely around the piece more subtle damage such as shrapnel and bullet impact or ricochets.

 

Just my thoughts as an interested onlooker................ Longbow.

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Posted by panzerguy on Wednesday, January 2, 2008 3:08 PM
Hey everybody thank's for the great feedback.I have to add one thing to this great lamp post debate. I was at my friend's new years eve party and his father and uncle were there, both of whom served in the ETO during W.W.II.My friend told his dad about my model's and dio's and he ask to see them,ment a lot to me when he commented on how life like they were,well I showed him and his brother my airborne vignette and asked them about the post,they told me they had seen one's with hole's clean threw them from shrapnel and bullet's even some that had bent after being subject to extream heat but any lamp post that had taken the damage I was depicting would have broke.So now I wonder should I change it or leave it be?

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  • From: Boston MA
Posted by vespa boy on Monday, December 31, 2007 4:30 PM

Just for future reference, one may want to work out which bits of the lamp-posts are cast iron and which are steel. It also applied to a lot of street accessories. This a quote from a chemistry web-site:

Cast iron

The molten iron from the bottom of the furnace can be used as cast iron.

Cast iron is very runny when it is molten and doesn't shrink much when it solidifies. It is therefore ideal for making castings - hence its name. However, it is very impure, containing about 4% of carbon. This carbon makes it very hard, but also very brittle. If you hit it hard, it tends to shatter rather than bend or dent.

Cast iron is used for things like manhole covers, guttering and drainpipes, cylinder blocks in car engines, Aga-type cookers, and very expensive and very heavy cookware.

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, December 31, 2007 2:50 PM

 vespa boy wrote:
Thanks for taking the feedback in the right spirit. I live in Boston and the broken ones I've seen in Boston and Europe have all snapped, as have cast iron furniture I've dropped etc. But I have never hit a lampost and I will bow to your greater experience!
I hope he's right, cause that's my rationale also:

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  • From: Boston MA
Posted by vespa boy on Monday, December 31, 2007 2:13 PM
Thanks for taking the feedback in the right spirit. I live in Boston and the broken ones I've seen in Boston and Europe have all snapped, as have cast iron furniture I've dropped etc. But I have never hit a lampost and I will bow to your greater experience!

http://public.fotki.com/nkhandekar

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Posted by panzerguy on Monday, December 31, 2007 12:45 PM
 vespa boy wrote:

The street is nicely done. I like the drain grating a lot. One thing that jumps out at me is the lamp post. The metal ones are made of cast metal that is brittle and snaps along the grain boundaries in the micro-structure when put under stress. They don't bend under impact.

Another thought is to not use a painted border on your dioramas but to have a sharp edge where the scene ends as if it has been cut out of the ground. Just something to think about.

 

Heyl, Vespa boy thank's for the feed back.Now about the lamp post I live out side Boston and there are fairly new one's and a lot that are forty to a hundred year's old! I've seen one's that have been hit by car's, truck 's and heavy equipment and trust me they dont alway's break(I know I've hit a couple).As far as the base go's I'll giva it a try on my next one.

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  • From: Boston MA
Posted by vespa boy on Monday, December 31, 2007 11:41 AM

The street is nicely done. I like the drain grating a lot. One thing that jumps out at me is the lamp post. The metal ones are made of cast metal that is brittle and snaps along the grain boundaries in the micro-structure when put under stress. They don't bend under impact.

Another thought is to not use a painted border on your dioramas but to have a sharp edge where the scene ends as if it has been cut out of the ground. Just something to think about.

 

http://public.fotki.com/nkhandekar

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Posted by the doog on Monday, December 31, 2007 10:08 AM
Really nice! Great figs, the whole scene has a really cool gritty feel to it...
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Posted by m1garand on Monday, December 31, 2007 9:25 AM
 kenny_conklin wrote:

 m1garand wrote:
Excellent work!  Just out of curiosity, any reason why that Corporal with Thompson is wearing his 1911 holster on left side instead of on the right?

hey m1 good to see you , funny you pointed that out i use to wear my 9mm like that when TOW gunning cause of equipment and i feel it is easier and a more fluid motion to draw across my body

hope you had a great xmas and a very happy new year m1 

 

Hello Kenny!  Happy New Year and best wishes to you and your family!

My christmas was good and hope yours was too!

I knew some vehicle mounted guys used to carry like that on the opposite side since it made easier to cross draw. 

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Posted by kenny_conklin on Monday, December 31, 2007 9:17 AM

 m1garand wrote:
Excellent work!  Just out of curiosity, any reason why that Corporal with Thompson is wearing his 1911 holster on left side instead of on the right?

hey m1 good to see you , funny you pointed that out i use to wear my 9mm like that when TOW gunning cause of equipment and i feel it is easier and a more fluid motion to draw across my body

hope you had a great xmas and a very happy new year m1 

 

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Posted by Wirraway on Monday, December 31, 2007 3:20 AM
That is really nice work........you should be proud of this one.

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, December 30, 2007 11:22 PM

Nice work...great figs!!!

 

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Posted by panzerguy on Sunday, December 30, 2007 9:45 PM
 m1garand wrote:
Excellent work!  Just out of curiosity, any reason why that Corporal with Thompson is wearing his 1911 holster on left side instead of on the right?
I could,nt get it to fit on the other side because the Thompson,s stock was to close to his side and I liked the way the holster looked.

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Posted by m1garand on Sunday, December 30, 2007 9:38 PM
Excellent work!  Just out of curiosity, any reason why that Corporal with Thompson is wearing his 1911 holster on left side instead of on the right?
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Another cheap vignette
Posted by panzerguy on Sunday, December 30, 2007 9:20 PM

Here's some pic's of another vignette I put together with my leftover,s.I made the road and sidwalk from scratch,the figure's are mostly dragon with some tamiya and verlinden arm's and hand's.The lamppost is from the tamiya road sign set that I was going to use for another vignette but our #@&* cat got ahold of it and chewed it pretty good(yeah the same cat that ate the tree's I made)but since I almost never throw anything away I found a way to use it.Let me know what ya think.  















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