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M 10 tank destroyer in snow WIP more pics 1/12/2008 7PM update

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M 10 tank destroyer in snow WIP more pics 1/12/2008 7PM update
Posted by dostacos on Wednesday, January 9, 2008 6:08 PM

here is the start of my Diorama. it is a Tamiya M 10 in 1/48 the rusty bars on the turret are a tarp frame, I am more into what if than exact models {when I get better at modeling....} I am thinking of having a few logs at the front.

I hope to have the treads in a deep rut BUT snow filling them in. I have not yet tried doing oil washes but I have used the Tamiya powders and their light earth pens on the tracks. I hope to have much of the tank covered in snow as well as the trees etc.

This is for a contest in 2 weeks, I will at least score a tee shirt and a 20% off coupon from the LHS which I will use to get a 1/38 Stug for the tank killer GB Whistling [:-^]

the contest is primarly for Tamiya 1/48 scale and my son is building a 4 barreled flak panzer for the same build

 comments please

 

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Posted by Boomerang on Wednesday, January 9, 2008 11:43 PM

   Looks like a good start dostacos. I am not an expert on composition, but is it good to have equal number of trees on each side? Dioramas need to have a random and natural feel. You may be right here though because the trees are different shapes and sizes. I just feel the trees either side hides the tank a bit too much. Just my opinion.

   What are you going to use for snow?

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Posted by dostacos on Thursday, January 10, 2008 2:18 AM
yes my wife the painter {art not house Cool [8D] } says they should be in threes, I was thinking of having one down across the front, or build some logs to have him behind. The trees are not "in stone" as for the snow, I have a big container from woodland scenics, you mist the scene with their glue {a thinned white glue} and sprinkle over the scene. thin coats and when it is the thickness desired it is hit with their glue a last time, it also is a dullcoat and will seal the model as well....I hope I am building up the two sides of the road now and plan on adding celluclay tomorrow..er todayWhistling [:-^]
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Posted by Boomerang on Thursday, January 10, 2008 5:23 AM

   I would remove the small tree to the right rear of the M10, then move the tree at the right front back to almost the position of the removed tree. Maybe in the vacant space left at the right front you could make a stack of logs. Fill that space with something that does not have a lot of height. It needs something, but not something that distacts the viewer from the tank.

   I am not an expert here. Just throwing my thoughts your way....

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Posted by dostacos on Friday, January 11, 2008 3:31 PM

 I added two hills, question: large logs, small logs or no logs?

 

 

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Posted by Boomerang on Friday, January 11, 2008 4:40 PM

   Wow, you have changed the entire feel of the diorama! Looks like it has gone from an M10 hunting german tanks, to one that has taken a turn.....straight into danger, a possible ambush maybe? The situation your M10 is in now is one i think most tankers would not like to be in....

    I almost feel that what you have done now doesn't lend itself to a snow setting. Are you still intending on using the trees? I am not sure they will fit here now.....This is looking more like a Normandy bocage diorama.  As to the logs, if you use them, go with the ones in the second pic.

    Personally, i liked your first attempt when you had the trees.

    Another hint, when you apply the ground material to your base, mask off the edges. It will save you a lot of clean up time.

    Hey guys, am i the only one going to offer opinions here?.....Whistling [:-^]Laugh [(-D]

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Posted by dostacos on Friday, January 11, 2008 6:09 PM

my thought is he is in a defensive position blocking a narrow dirt road into Bastone. and yes I will still use the trees {three, with MAYBE a fourth layed a cross the wood pile

 

Mask, duh...the next one for sure. I can always make it a wadi and have my German tank rolling through and start again 

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Posted by ww2modeler on Friday, January 11, 2008 9:38 PM

If you still put up the trees, it will hide much of the tank and scene. If I were you, I would remove one of the hills, and maybe put a foxhole there with a Para, and make the other hill a Hedgrehrow in a Normandy setting.

Theres a picture of a typical setting around Bastogne. I would think the tankers would go for camoflauged concealed positions with good escape routs. Your scene is like making a last stand. If you really wanted to salvage that scene. In my opinion, have a jeep with a MG and a couple of Paras crouching/ running after it. Or put a AT gun, which makes more sense. a 57mm maybe.

Just suggestions,

David

 

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Posted by Tankluver on Friday, January 11, 2008 10:30 PM
Just a suggestion but you could take the tarp off the tank and add a tank crew firing or add a para on the 50. caliber.
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Posted by dostacos on Friday, January 11, 2008 11:03 PM

Ok, this is 1/48 so there are not alot of machine gun crews available Sad [:(] I thought they were rather dug in around Bastone and from the various movies and all they had lots of trees {Band of Bros, were in the tree line.}

how about a German Afrika Corp tank driving thru a wadi? I can still go with sand instead of snow Wink [;)]

 

 

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Posted by Tankluver on Friday, January 11, 2008 11:05 PM
that looks good too!
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Posted by mg42gunner on Friday, January 11, 2008 11:18 PM
The dug in position might work well for the german panzer III. You could add a hill to the front of it ( a hill of sand), and make it into a dug in position. I like the snow idea also, but mayby instead of the logs you could have the tank patrolling through the woods instead of dug in.
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Posted by dostacos on Saturday, January 12, 2008 12:33 AM
I think I am going with trees, no road block, the M 10 will be hunting
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Posted by dostacos on Saturday, January 12, 2008 8:51 PM

ok here it is with snow and 3 trees

 

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Posted by namrednef on Saturday, January 12, 2008 9:24 PM

awesome snow effect!....makes you forget about the tarp!

Man, really good snow.....very believeable! 

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Posted by ww2modeler on Saturday, January 12, 2008 9:30 PM

It it just me or is the right (looking from rear) track loose. Great snow affect, although the tank looks like its been sitting there for a while, maybe lighten up the snow on the vehicle and deepen it at the bottom of the hill.

David

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Posted by dostacos on Saturday, January 12, 2008 10:15 PM
 ww2modeler wrote:

It it just me or is the right (looking from rear) track loose. Great snow affect, although the tank looks like its been sitting there for a while, maybe lighten up the snow on the vehicle and deepen it at the bottom of the hill.

David

I think the track is muck on it, it is Tamiya 1/48 and the tracks are glued to the wheels I will take a peek tomorrow.
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Posted by the doog on Sunday, January 13, 2008 10:28 PM
I'm almost afraid to ask this but...what did you use for snow?
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Posted by ygmodeler4 on Sunday, January 13, 2008 11:00 PM

 the doog wrote:
I'm almost afraid to ask this but...what did you use for snow?

haha Doog, I think he used the Woodland Scenics snow, or at least that's what he said earlier, i dont think he used the , um, you know.

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Posted by dostacos on Monday, January 14, 2008 12:58 AM

 the doog wrote:
I'm almost afraid to ask this but...what did you use for snow?
I left it outside in the snow.....

 

Woodland Scenics snow, soft flake, they have a watered down white type glue {dries clear and flat} spray some on, sprinkle, and until there is too muchSmile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

I used artist board to build up under the tank, then covered with celluclay to {hopefully} give the idea that they were plowing through drifts and have stopped with the snow still coming down it has started to fill their tracks in.

Hope you liked it.

 

Dan 

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