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Warning on Future Floorwax and Solvaset

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  • From: A Spartan in the Wolverine State
Posted by rjkplasticmod on Thursday, January 8, 2004 8:49 PM
Well I would wait 2 days, especially in a humid climate, before applying decals and then at least one day for the decals to dry before the second coat of Future. I would be real cautious about mixing anything with Future. I don't even thin it, just airbrush it as it comes in the bottle. Unpredictable reactions can occur when you start mixing acrylic mediums. Tamiya flat base may work fine, but I've never tried it. If you want to experiment, do it on some scrap plastic, not your latest masterpiece!

Rick
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Posted by noel_carpio on Thursday, January 8, 2004 6:42 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by rjkplasticmod

Decal solvents can cause Future to discolor as described. I don't use Solvaset, but I have experienced the problem with Micro Sol/Set. Usually occurs if you didn't let the Future fully cure. I now wait at least 48 hours before I decal over Future, especially if the humidity is high. Good news is the discoloration will pretty much disappear if you spray another coat of Future. Just be sure the decals are fully dried before you respray.

Rick


So you mean you apply the Future. Let dry for a day. Then apply the decals then another coat of Future? That will do the trick? So what is this I read from a modeler that mixing Tamiya Flat base with Future did good to his Focke Wolf? How much is the mixture if you did that? How will it react then to the model and to the decals applied to it?

NoelShy [8)]
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Posted by noel_carpio on Thursday, January 8, 2004 6:39 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Lufbery

Noel,

I had fogging on a conopy I was working on when I used alcohol to clean some liquid mask off of it. Another coating of Future got rid of the fogging, but it took a day or so.

Regards,

-Drew


Smile [:)] Ah, I didn't know that could be possible. Though it hasn't happened to me before since I never cleaned canopies with anything but water. I was told before hand to use white glue whenever gluing canopies or near to them.

Thanks! Approve [^]
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  • From: Brooklyn
Posted by wibhi2 on Thursday, January 8, 2004 4:38 PM
Water can do that to future if not fully cured as noted above by rjkplasticmod. Always best to let the wet coat dry 24 to 48 hrs prior to decalling.

Ever spill liquid on the kitchen floor after it's been recently mopped with future/water mix?
little white spots show up, especially on vynil floors.
3d modelling is an option a true mental excercise in frusrtation
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  • From: A Spartan in the Wolverine State
Posted by rjkplasticmod on Thursday, January 8, 2004 3:46 PM
Decal solvents can cause Future to discolor as described. I don't use Solvaset, but I have experienced the problem with Micro Sol/Set. Usually occurs if you didn't let the Future fully cure. I now wait at least 48 hours before I decal over Future, especially if the humidity is high. Good news is the discoloration will pretty much disappear if you spray another coat of Future. Just be sure the decals are fully dried before you respray.

Rick
RICK At My Age, I've Seen It All, Done It All, But I Don't Remember It All...
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  • From: Harrisburg, PA
Posted by Lufbery on Thursday, January 8, 2004 8:08 AM
Noel,

I had fogging on a conopy I was working on when I used alcohol to clean some liquid mask off of it. Another coating of Future got rid of the fogging, but it took a day or so.

Regards,

-Drew

-Drew

Build what you like; like what you build.

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  • From: Broken Arrow, Oklahoma
Posted by maddafinga on Thursday, January 8, 2004 8:05 AM
I've used solvaset on future before and had no problems with it. The future was well dried and cured though.
Madda Trifles make perfection, but perfection is no trifle. -- Leonardo Da Vinci Tact is for those who lack the wit for sarcasm.--maddafinga
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  • From: Joisey
Posted by John P on Thursday, January 8, 2004 7:52 AM
Forget the Solva-set, use Future as a decal set. It reacts with itself fine :) and melts most decals quite well. You end up with a decal beautifully preserved in acrylic lamiations.
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  • From: Kent, England
Posted by nmayhew on Thursday, January 8, 2004 6:29 AM
markiii hi,
what do you use then instead of future?![:0]
for me it was a revelation and solved loads of decalling and weathering problems!Smile [:)]
regards,
nick
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  • From: Sandusky Ohio, USA
Posted by Swanny on Thursday, January 8, 2004 6:13 AM
A reapplication of Future will indeed fix the problem. I've had this happen before and more Future solved it.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, January 8, 2004 3:28 AM
I quit using future except for canopies.

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Posted by noel_carpio on Thursday, January 8, 2004 3:25 AM
I will try brushing over. Spraying might make things worse.

Thanks!

Noel
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  • From: Bicester, England
Posted by KJ200 on Thursday, January 8, 2004 3:12 AM
All may not be lost.

I am sure I read recently that if you apply a second coat of future over the decals, as you normally would, then the discolouration disappears.

Karl

Currently on the bench: AZ Models 1/72 Mig 17PF

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Warning on Future Floorwax and Solvaset
Posted by noel_carpio on Thursday, January 8, 2004 12:34 AM
Don't you ever apply Solvaset on any kit with a coat of Future. Unless you like to have a white camo on your project.

Just sharin....(while I cry over my 1/32 Falcon)Disapprove [V]

Noel
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