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Official Ho229 Group Build
Posted by Anonymous on Monday, November 29, 2010 9:12 PM

Well, are you interested in a Horton 229 flying wing GB or not?  Please explain your answer...

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Monday, November 29, 2010 9:39 PM

Not...

I don't really do much in the way of prototype or non-operational or concept Luftwaffe birds, or any "Luftwaffe '46" stuff... Did the Do 335, but that had three important things going for it.. It was a 1/48th Monogram kit, it was under 10.00 (when I bought it in 1978), and there was a Shep Paine diorama tip sheet in the box...

Unless...

There's a kit of it in 1/48th at or under 20.00... Then I might, just for the halibut... Is there such an animal? The 229 kit, not the fish...

 

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Posted by hkshooter on Monday, November 29, 2010 10:07 PM

No.

Because Luft 46 stuff blows.

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Posted by ruddratt on Monday, November 29, 2010 10:20 PM

No thank you....it's only got one wing and no rigging.

Mike

 "We have our own ammunition. It's filled with paint. When we fire it, it makes pretty pictures....scares the hell outta people."

 

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, November 29, 2010 10:39 PM

hkshooter

No.

Because Luft 46 stuff blows.

Yeah, you're right...fortunately the 229 is Luft '45 stuff and it doesn't blow...it actually flew...

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Posted by p38jl on Monday, November 29, 2010 10:53 PM

ayuh.. I would be... flying wingy things are up my alley..

I got enough 1/72  Y/XB-35's to build both versions, and also the XB-49.so.. adding a Horton 229... sure..!

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Posted by Konigwolf13 on Monday, November 29, 2010 11:11 PM

I would cause you just gotta be in it....

Cept I dont have one in the stash and dont plan on adding one soon, closest I have is Me P1099 1946 type thing.

Andrew

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, November 29, 2010 11:19 PM

Well for all you pansies sitting on the fence or whining because you "don't have one in the stash"---boo hoo!---here's some cool pics that might motivate you babies:

Right before the incident with the fruit tree:

Cool build-up using Dragon kit...

Coincidence?  I think not!

 

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Posted by kermit on Monday, November 29, 2010 11:50 PM

I am definately game!

The 229 does indeed blow (your shiny B17 out of the sky in one pass...)Whistling

If i can get Vetteman going on this we could both build our Dragon offerings for this GB. But thats up to him ofcourse. Count me in

Richard

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm." - Sir Winston Churchill

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, November 30, 2010 1:56 AM

Somone has already proposed a Stealth GB and it might be better to do 229's as part of that. And IMHO there are not enough variations of the 229 to justify its own GB.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by Konigwolf13 on Tuesday, November 30, 2010 2:02 AM

Bish

Somone has already proposed a Stealth GB and it might be better to do 229's as part of that. And IMHO there are not enough variations of the 229 to justify its own GB.

I thought 229 was its own justification?

Andrew

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Tuesday, November 30, 2010 2:58 AM

It appears that Dragon has a 1/48th scale offering of the Ho 229, however it rings up at around 60-70.00 if you can aquire it (the websites I found listing the kit are sold out... Now whether that's because it's OOP or just that big a seller, I don't know)... So I gotta say, "not no, but hell no..."...

 

The 229 does indeed blow...

It's a jet.. It blows AND sucks..

 

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Posted by bondoman on Tuesday, November 30, 2010 3:13 AM

 

http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb110/dblvisions2001/scan0006.jpg

 

Still, not enough time to die laughing!!!

 

 

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Posted by stikpusher on Tuesday, November 30, 2010 3:24 AM

Isn't Dragon re issuing the 229 under the Orange box (discount) label line?

 

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Tuesday, November 30, 2010 3:34 AM

Dunno...  Would that particular kit-line put the price in line with my generous price-range limits I wonder?

 

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Posted by stikpusher on Tuesday, November 30, 2010 3:39 AM

My mistake, it was the Volkksjager kit. Most of the Orangebox kits are more reasonably priced. Their Ju-88 w/groundcrew was under $30 IIRC.

 

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, November 30, 2010 3:44 AM

I have just found a couple of UK sites with this in stock for around the £30 to £35 mark.

http://www.wonderlandmodels.com/products/dragon-148-ho-229a-1-flying-wing/

http://www.creativemodels.co.uk/dragon_148_ho229_a1_flying_wing-p-1252.html

Now, is anyone going to do it in 1/32nd scale i wounder.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Tuesday, November 30, 2010 3:59 AM

 £30 to £35... That's a ballpark figure of around 70-80 US Dollars, right Bish?

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, November 30, 2010 4:06 AM

No, i would guess more around 45 to 50 US, its about 1.60 ish to the pound. But then you have to add postage, and that price would include VAT which would be taken off for you, thats 17.5%. It's still probably not cheap by normal US standards, i can usually get kits from sprue brothers for less than i can get them here, thats including postage from the US. But for anyone who is happy to pay it and really wants one, might be an idea.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Tuesday, November 30, 2010 4:21 AM

Ah.. 1.60 US to the Pound... Got it.. Thanks, Pard...

Still puts it way outta my range though.. I'll keep looking though, since the aircraft would still likely have a place in my "Weird German Aircraft in Blown Up Hangars-April '45" dioramas.  I sometimes get lucky and a kit falls into my lap way under retail... (Like that $18.00 Tamiya He 219 I scored, lol..)

 

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, November 30, 2010 5:55 AM

Konigwolf13

 Bish:

Somone has already proposed a Stealth GB and it might be better to do 229's as part of that. And IMHO there are not enough variations of the 229 to justify its own GB.

 

I thought 229 was its own justification?

Andrew

Ditto...and just to shatter another myth...the 229 was not really designed from inception to be "invisible" to radar or stealthy; in fact radar was not even developed when the Horton brothers began their experiments w/ flying wings...it just turned out by chance that the 229 was less of a radar signature than a standard a/c...

As far as merging with another GB...that would take the fun outta it...that's what I feel will make this GB more interesting is that the builds will be so similar it will be interesting to see what the participants do w/ the same kits and with the same issues...and how they finish the a/c...

Long live 229..

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, November 30, 2010 6:00 AM

I know it wasn't built as a Stealth aircrfat, i hadn't realised anyone had suggested it had or that the Germans even knew of the concept. Its just that it does have stealth qualities.

I would love the chance to build mine, but i am upto my neck, i have already had to turn down a couple of GB's i would love to take part in.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by VanceCrozier on Tuesday, November 30, 2010 7:13 AM

Viva la Revolucion! Viva la 229!

Depends on how long the GB goes Manny, as ~gasp~ I don't have one in the stash... yet. I'll keep checking in as it shapes up. Lack of options shouldn't be a big deal, no reason a GB has to have 50+ builders either. I'm involved in the P-38 build that is going on right now, a smaller group but it's easier to keep track of who's doing what.

Manny - diorama with a wrecked 229 and a killer fruit tree - think about it!!

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Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, November 30, 2010 7:43 AM

So what dates Manny?

I was thinking Feb 29 (2/29) but being European I'm assuming you'd be going with Sept 9 (22/9)?

 

On a more seroius note I'd considered doing a 229 built under license by the Japanese. We'll see how it goes...

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by B17Pilot on Tuesday, November 30, 2010 8:22 AM

Try a contest vendor table.  I picked up the Dargaon 1/48th 229 for ~$10 a little over a year ago.  What a steal!

  

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Posted by p38jl on Tuesday, November 30, 2010 8:35 AM

ya,, I'm searching...

Hans,, maybe a captured 229 in a US or Brit Hanger ??... humm....Stick out tongue

you could paint 229 on the side,, didn't they slap  painted numbers on the sides of captured AC after the war in white ??... humm.. ??...

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Posted by Konigwolf13 on Tuesday, November 30, 2010 8:43 AM

Evilbay shows I can get one for about $32AUD from HK. Still dont have the money though. There could be another option to broaden the kits. Either aforementioned "Stealth Jet" or a Kit(s) worth $229. With the SLT-56 Truck and Leopard 2 combo I'm starting soon (maybe) that would be just about 229 in worth. I just didnt have to sneak it past the wife (isnt this how it started anyways).

Andrew

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Posted by Hercmech on Tuesday, November 30, 2010 9:50 AM

Manstein's revenge

Well for all you pansies sitting on the fence or whining because you "don't have one in the stash"---boo hoo!---here's some cool pics that might motivate you babies:

 

 

Cool build-up using Dragon kit...

 

http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb110/dblvisions2001/scan0004-1.jpg

 

 

Manny,

I would have loved to been in the GB but I already did the kit.

But I think that the pictures of that build above is one of the cooler builds I have seen. I guess I have a soft spot for this A/C for some reason.


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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, November 30, 2010 10:49 AM

Come on guys, this is supposed to be fun...the Revell of Germany 72nd is a  kit that is much easier to find than the Dragon one--and cheaper...

As far as dates, well we could start it Dec 1 and set the tentative ending date as 2-29-2011 in keeping with the 229 theme...of course we could stretch it out a bit if needed...

As I stated earlier, part of the attraction of the build is that it WILL be the same a/c in either the ROG or Dragon incarnation...so we can really compare notes on build issues, etc...and I don't care if we don't have 50 people in the GB.

Fun, fun and more fun...

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Posted by p38jl on Tuesday, November 30, 2010 11:00 AM

Manstein's revenge

Come on guys, this is supposed to be fun...the Revell of Germany 72nd is a  kit that is much easier to find than the Dragon one--and cheaper...

As far as dates, well we could start it Dec 1 and set the tentative ending date as 2-29-2011 in keeping with the 229 theme...of course we could stretch it out a bit if needed...

Fun, fun and more fun...

 

 

ya. what he said... Ditto

doing it for the FUN.. of the 229 theme... if 2/29/11 is not enought time.. extend it 29 days.. 

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