Bf 109 landing gear question...

Thank you for all the help and kind comments.  I'm glad I joined this forum as there are certainly many knowledgeable, and friendly modelers here.  I should have joined years ago.  As requested, here are some more pics. 

Nathan T

Nice Gustav, landing gear looks good from here. Those cheap TD cockpits really look nice when all painted up and weathered, they compete with Aires in my op.

I agree Nathan.  True Details products are hard to beat, whether its their tires or cockpits.  I think I paid 9 bones for this one.  The Aires resin does look nice, but they just seem way overpriced to me.  Some of them are more than the kit themselves.  Their 1/48 P-51 set is like $80 or 90 bones....get real!  I can get three Tamiya P-51's for that and I almost always use the TD cockpit in that kit when I build it.  I like the Ultracast seats too but they tend to be hard to find, even on e-bay. 

JRegards, Joe

Very nice 109

Bill

lawdog114

I finished the 109.  Here it is.  I added a True Details cockpit, Quickboost guns and Eagle Cal decals.  I think the grass is a little too yellow so I"m gonna have to tweek it some more.  Comment and criticizms are welcome.  

One Criticism - there aren't enough pictures!

That's one seriously lovely looking 109 you've made there

Manstein's revenge

Reasoned:

From your personal collection Manny? VERY nice!

 

Yes...

I believe that the very early 109's thru the E model may have had tyres that were in alignmnet w/ the struts but the extra weight of the F model on caused engineers to increase the tyre size and the alignmnet on the struts...eventually, with the G model, the tyres became so large that "bumps" were placed on the wings to accomodate them when retracted...

Yeah, the fairing in the upper wings' surface were there to accomodate the wider, low-pressure tires, which were also toed-out from the strut much farther, which increased it's "bite" into the runway, and resulted in fewer (but not THAT many) ground-handling accidents...  The early, high-pressure tires were toed-in more along a parallel line with the strut, and didn't need the fairing, but were much harder to deal with in taxiing and take off, since they had only about a third of the tread is in contact with the ground when compared to the high-pressure tires... 

The strut-length was also reduced on the late-G and K-models, vs the B-F as well...

How does this plane roll straight?  As pointed out, I would imagine the germans went through alot of tires due to tread wear. 

Wasn't a lot of tread-wear because they generally operated of grass and dirt fields, rather than concrete... As for rolling straight, well.. They did quite well, right up until you applied power, lol... Then the torque would bite a new 109 pilot in the azz, lol.. More Bf109s were lost in ground-handling accidents than any other cause...

Looks great lawdog, never seen a yellow spinner on a 109G, yellow nose of course, just not spinner.

Nice Gustav, landing gear looks good from here. Those cheap TD cockpits really look nice when all painted up and weathered, they compete with Aires in my op.

I finished the 109.  Here it is.  I added a True Details cockpit, Quickboost guns and Eagle Cal decals.  I think the grass is a little too yellow so I"m gonna have to tweek it some more.  Comment and criticizms are welcome.   

posting pic's is not so hard,
when you are writing a reply, just copy your link between a code
[ IMG ] your pic [/ IMG] (no spaces between the [ ] but otherwise the post won't show what I wrote

When you don't have a place witth your pic's on the internet, photobucket works great for this, they allready provide the codes you need!

Regards Ninetalis.

Thanks for the help folks.  I knew I was not going crazy.  How does this plane roll straight?  As pointed out, I would imagine the germans went through alot of tires due to tread wear.  I would post some pictures of it but I'm new to this forum and can't figure out how to do that.  I'm sort of "challenged" in this regard.  By the way, you are all excellent modelers!

Thanks,

Joe 

Manstein's revenge

 

 

You know, the above pic got me thinking about the sync cowl MGs firing through the prop arc.  With the width of those prop blades, I'm still fascinated how they were able to sync the firing mech to not shoot the props off!

Reasoned

From your personal collection Manny? VERY nice!

I believe that the very early 109's thru the E model may have had tyres that were in alignmnet w/ the struts but the extra weight of the F model on caused engineers to increase the tyre size and the alignmnet on the struts...eventually, with the G model, the tyres became so large that "bumps" were placed on the wings to accomodate them when retracted...

That always looked to me like an engineering mistake.

Bill

From your personal collection Manny? VERY nice!

I've read offten about the take off and landing challenges of the 109 (due to the under-carriage), one would think if the a/c was using a concrete strip that the wheel alignment would cause significant tire wear.

They are slightly angled out from the top...they are not in-line with the struts...

Good angle:

Not sure if I'm an expert, but IMHO they should NOT be exactly parallel with the struts, they sit with a touch of outward camber.

I found this online which should help

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From directly above, the fronts half of the wheels should be peeping out from under the wings, but that should be taken care of by the engineering of the parts plug right?

best regards

I'm no 109 expert either, but as far as I understand, as well as having the obvious negative camber, the 109's landing gear is also toed out - if you were to look down on the landing gear from directly above, the toe would look something like below, although nowhere near as pronounced;

             Front

    \         /

             Rear

This picture sort of shows it;

I'm not a total 109 expert, 
but Maybe you can make something up from these pic's?

Hope this is what you're looking for...
you could search, 'Bf 109 on ground' on google to...

Regards Ninetalis