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best 1/48 early p-38 lightning

  • I am planning to add a 1/48 P-38f/g to my stash and was wondering what the opinions were as to the best kit.

    I am looking at the Academy P-38f and the Hasegawa P-38g Bouganville kit in 1/48.

    Any thoughts and advice would be appreciated.

     

    Mike

     

     

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  • I have the Academy Glacier Girl kit. I havent finished it yet but from all the test fitting that I've done its not all that bad of a kit, for the most part the parts fit is great. Only real problem I have seen so  far is when attaching the booms to the wings, will need some filler there. I remember someone saying something about the canopy not fitting right either but I havent touched those parts. 

    Not sure about the Hasegawa kit, someone did tell me it was more expensive for a little more detail. I do not know from personal experience.

  • ww2psycho

    I have the Academy Glacier Girl kit. I havent finished it yet but from all the test fitting that I've done its not all that bad of a kit, for the most part the parts fit is great. Only real problem I have seen so  far is when attaching the booms to the wings, will need some filler there. I remember someone saying something about the canopy not fitting right either but I havent touched those parts. 

    Not sure about the Hasegawa kit, someone did tell me it was more expensive for a little more detail. I do not know from personal experience.

    I built most of the Glacier Girl kit before it was shot down by our yellow lab...and honestly I found the kit infuriating. 

    The cockpit detail is no better than the ancient Monogram kit. Oh, wait, it was a two-part steering yoke. Other than that it feels like a direct copy. The nacelle intakes are solid (lazy). The wheel wells, while boxed, lack any detail worthy of the name. Tiny parts like the tail weights have ***-poor locating holes/pins. The canopy is five pieces that don't play well together, and there's no hinge for the top canopy, so if you want to pose it open, you either have to fab one or find a way to glue two opposing curves together with perfect alignment.

    It's not a terrible kit, but it felt very lazy and sloppy, and honestly put me off Academy kits for awhile.

    If you can find the Monogram Pro-Modeler F/G/H, it's the Hasegawa kit, and usually goes for less on eBay and the like. But I've heard it's no picnic, either.

    Honestly I'd be shocked if someone didn't announce a new-mold P-38 in the next two years. 

    On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

    On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

    Blog/Completed Builds: doogsmodels.com

     

  • Hey Mike, The complex twin boom nature of Clarence Kelly's design unfortunately makes any Lightning a challenging build .  I've never built the Academy version but have done the Hasegawa example once and it was no "shake and bake" kit.  I hear the Academy is more user friendly but the Hasegawa is more accurate and detailed.  Apparently the Hasegawa kit is the only one with the correct upturned wingtips.  Check e-bay for deals.  That said, if you find the Pro-Modeler P-38 F/G/H there, its actiually a reboxed version of the Hasegawa kit now offered in the Bouganville markings. I personally prefer accuracy and recently bought the Hasegawa P-38 with the intent of building Rex Barber's plane.  

    Hope this helps,

    Joe

    P.S.  Does anyone know where I can get my hands on a set of decals for Robin Olds P-38?.....

     "Can you fly this plane and land it?...Surely you can't be serious....I am serious, and don't call me Shirley"

     

  • The Academy has the upturned wingtips, too, FWIW

    On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

    On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

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  • Does it?  My bad.  I read that on a Hasegawa P-38 review somewhere so I thought I should mention it.  Actually, I don't know much about the Academy kit. 

    Joe

     "Can you fly this plane and land it?...Surely you can't be serious....I am serious, and don't call me Shirley"

     

  • Yes, I too prefer accuracy. Hasegawa kits are sooo expensive. Super Angry>50USD with shipping. Add to that a eduard PE detail set for the cockpit as Hasegawa cockpits are nortoriously devoid of detail.

    is this so of the Hasegawa P-38G?

    thanks

    On the Bench: 

     Revell 1/48 F-86D Sabre

  • Im not huge on accuracy at my point in modelling, I just like to finish kits right now. I hope to pick up a hasegawa kit sometime. just not anytime soon.

  • straight from the box hasegawa wins as for as detail. if you want to spend extra $$ on resin then grab the academy kit. i've read that the hase kit has boom problems but i test fitted the main fuselage parts with no problems what soever. this may because it's the newest boxing of the 38G. it's the the same kit though. 

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    hobby boss 1/48 F-105G. wings and fuselage cut from sprue. $40+ shipping. 

  • If I did get either kit, probably would go with the eduard zoom PE interior set as opposed to a resin cockpit.

    Maybe I can find a good deal on ebay........Hmm

    On the Bench: 

     Revell 1/48 F-86D Sabre

  • Not having built my Revellogram kit yet to give an opinion but you would think for such a well known and popular a/c there would be a better offering out there.

    Science is the pursiut of knowledge, faith is the pursuit of wisdom.  Peace be with you.

    On the Tarmac: 1/48 Revell Ju 87D

    In the Hanger: Perhaps a bunch of Revellogram kits

  • mike_espo

    If I did get either kit, probably would go with the eduard zoom PE interior set as opposed to a resin cockpit.

    Maybe I can find a good deal on ebay........Hmm

    Hey Mike, Thats probably wise.  I put a True Details cockpit in mine and It was a real pain.  Lots of sanding to get it to fit.  Keep in mind, if you choose the Hasegawa kit, the instrument panel will be hidden under a coaming (unless you cut it out and alot of pilots did remove this), which will be really hard to see once assembled.  I wouldn't spend too much time detailing it and just focus on the side panels and seat (my opinon of course).  I'll post some pics of my in progress Lightning.

    Check these out:     

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Eduard-Zoom-FE224-Hasegawa-1-48-P-38F-Lightning-/230597455569?pt=UK_ToysGames_ModelKits_ModelKits_JN&hash=item35b0adeed1

    http://www.squadron.com/ItemDetails.asp?item=EU4224

    Hope this helps,

    Joe

     "Can you fly this plane and land it?...Surely you can't be serious....I am serious, and don't call me Shirley"

     

  • Reasoned

    Not having built my Revellogram kit yet to give an opinion but you would think for such a well known and popular a/c there would be a better offering out there.

    IMO the Revell kit is flawed, but better than the Academy if only for the reason that it's almost as "good", but something like 30 years older. 

    I am kind of surprised nobody's taken another crack at it, though. I think it's the only major U.S. fighter of the war that hasn't seen a significant new boxing in years.

    As I was telling one of the guys at the LHS (they've got a Pro-Modeler F/G/H for $35), I feel like it's one of the very few subjects out there where I'm not happy with any of the kits. And certainly the most prominent.

    On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

    On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

    Blog/Completed Builds: doogsmodels.com

     

  • Well, I can't compare the Hasegawa and Academy kits, but I did recently build the Academy F5-E, which employs the basic components of the other Academy P-38's.  It's a really doable kit.  I agree that the Eduard interior Zoom helps build a great cockpit.  It also comes with screens for the engine intakes which aren't all that hard to open up.  All three wheel wells build up nice and beg for a little extra plumbing.  The booms fit well with good alignment.  Sure there was some fill work around the nacelles, but that is a rather complicated joint from front to back.  If there was a breakthrough improvement to be made in the next great P-38, there is where it would be made.  Here's a few photos from the building process that show a little bit of the components as they started to go together.  It really was an enjoyable build.  The skeptics have made it way too scary.

     

  • lawdog114

    mike_espo:

    If I did get either kit, probably would go with the eduard zoom PE interior set as opposed to a resin cockpit.

    Maybe I can find a good deal on ebay........Hmm

     

    Hey Mike, Thats probably wise.  I put a True Details cockpit in mine and It was a real pain.  Lots of sanding to get it to fit.  Keep in mind, if you choose the Hasegawa kit, the instrument panel will be hidden under a coaming (unless you cut it out and alot of pilots did remove this), which will be really hard to see once assembled.  I wouldn't spend too much time detailing it and just focus on the side panels and seat (my opinon of course).  I'll post some pics of my in progress Lightning.

    Hey Mike, heres some pics of my in-progess P-38.  This is what the True Details Cockpit looks like should you decide to go this route instead. 

    Joe

     "Can you fly this plane and land it?...Surely you can't be serious....I am serious, and don't call me Shirley"