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  • Member since
    February 2003
  • From: Rothesay, NB Canada
Posted by VanceCrozier on Thursday, August 16, 2012 7:37 AM

Manstein's revenge

Cool info...I have the MiG-19 in the stash in 48th from Trumpeter. ..

Soooooo build it!!! Wink

On the bench: Airfix 1/72 Wildcat; Airfix 1/72 Vampire T11; Airfix 1/72 Fouga Magister

Dre
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  • From: here, not over there
Posted by Dre on Thursday, August 16, 2012 8:58 AM

Svenne, I'm far an expert in anything, let alone MiG's but I'm using Light Gull Grey for the wheel wells and interior sections of my -21 that aren't painted blue/green.  It's a good neutral color that doesn't attract the eye.

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    December 2005
  • From: Goteborg / Sverige
Posted by Svenne Duva on Thursday, August 16, 2012 3:22 PM

Thanks Dre,

ATM my bail out is either light grey or green.

Here are some pictures picked up on the web, displayed here for discussion purpose only.  

Can somone shed some lights on the logic here?

Svenne

sic transit gloria mundi

Dre
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  • From: here, not over there
Posted by Dre on Thursday, August 16, 2012 3:43 PM

Pretty good idea of how cruddy those spaces can get...

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  • From: Exeter, MO
Posted by kustommodeler1 on Thursday, August 16, 2012 3:45 PM

Not sure you will find any logic to it Svenne...Tongue Tied My guess would be they used whatever they ahad available at the time....

Darrin

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  • From: Exeter, MO
Posted by kustommodeler1 on Thursday, August 16, 2012 4:01 PM

Okay, here's a few pics to get started. This kit is a magnificent hunk of j...ust fine vintage tooling. Well, it's not fair to say that. Fit is good, and assembly will be straightforward. It was probably tooled when not very much detail-wise was known about the bird.

The dimensions are really close compared to line drawings, with the major problem being the wing tips will need a little help, as the very ends are set a little too far to the rear. No biggie. The panel lines are raised, but there are very few of them, and they are in the wrong locations, so I'm going to sand it smooth, and do my very first ever overall rescribe on it.Black Eye I'll also have to scratch the spill doors on the top of the intakes. I can still recommend it though, as , well, there are NO other 1/48 Mig 25s out there, and I've seen them built up to look really good.

Here's an assembly mock-up.

It's no slouch for size, here's a pic with the same scale BF-109.

The main gear wheels are huge compared to an F-15E

More to comeBig Smile

Darrin

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 16, 2012 10:34 PM

WOW...that is a BIG airplane...

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    February 2003
  • From: Rothesay, NB Canada
Posted by VanceCrozier on Friday, August 17, 2012 7:28 AM

Larger wheels - I assume it was meant to operate from secondary landing strips.

On the bench: Airfix 1/72 Wildcat; Airfix 1/72 Vampire T11; Airfix 1/72 Fouga Magister

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 17, 2012 10:57 AM

I'm not sure if that's why they were so big-----possibly because it was SO heavy...

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  • From: Exeter, MO
Posted by kustommodeler1 on Friday, August 17, 2012 11:51 AM

Very heavy. And the wheels aren't the only thing that's big:

I wonder how many gallons of fuel per minute run through those things?

Darrin

Setting new standards for painfully slow buildsDead

Dre
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  • From: here, not over there
Posted by Dre on Friday, August 17, 2012 1:32 PM

Gawd almighty, lookit the size o' them cans!   Funky green coloration in there too...

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  • From: Rothesay, NB Canada
Posted by VanceCrozier on Friday, August 17, 2012 2:22 PM

Dre

Gawd almighty, lookit the size o' them cans!   Funky green coloration in there too...

lol, I didn't want to be the one to say it! Wink

On the bench: Airfix 1/72 Wildcat; Airfix 1/72 Vampire T11; Airfix 1/72 Fouga Magister

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  • From: Democratic Peoples Republic of Illinois
Posted by Hercmech on Friday, August 17, 2012 2:31 PM

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Posted by Hercmech on Friday, August 17, 2012 2:33 PM

kustommodeler1

Very heavy. And the wheels aren't the only thing that's big:

I wonder how many gallons of fuel per minute run through those things?

Forgive me if my math is off, but the listed SFC for the R-15 engine is 2.7 in burner.

That times its thrust 22,503 in burner sould give you about 60,758.1 lbs per hour which is about 9068 gallons per hour...with both engines running at full burner that is aprox 18,136 gallons per hour.

Granted it could never run in burner for an hour. 


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  • From: Spring Branch, TX
Posted by satch_ip on Friday, August 17, 2012 2:42 PM

I've read that after those high speed record setting runs they had to trash the engines.  On another note, a Delta pilot classmate of mine was a Russian MiG 29 pilot before coming here.

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    January 2012
  • From: Belgium, EU
Posted by Ninetalis on Friday, August 17, 2012 8:29 PM

If I'm not mistaken, the MiG-25 pilots weren't allowed to use the aircraft's full potential, they were limited to a maximum of mach 2.8 instead of the 3.2 that it was able to reach, Why?

Well if they did, it would melt the engine's in about 8 minutes, how come?

The heat produced by the engine itself would melt the metal and materials inside the engine.
Not something you'd want when flying mach 2/3, not even thinking about the fact that you are actually in a machine made out of metal...

+ some of the records that this bad mother made are still standing today...
With regards, Ninetalis.

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  • From: Spring Branch, TX
Posted by satch_ip on Saturday, August 18, 2012 6:12 PM

The Vought  XF8U-3 attained Mach 2.39 and it was still accelerating.  The test pilot said it could have made Mach 3.0 but the windscreen acrylic was limited to 2.2 because of the heat generated.  It was powered by a single J75 25,000lb thrust engine.

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, August 20, 2012 8:40 AM

Ref pictures are nice; WIP pics are even better...

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  • From: Exeter, MO
Posted by kustommodeler1 on Tuesday, August 21, 2012 7:18 PM

Well, no pictures this time, but a report of progress nonetheless. I have all panels sanded smooth, and subassemblies taking shape. I also must find my scriber. it has walked off.... Will start rescribing soon.

Darrin

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 22, 2012 1:59 PM

An update without pics is like a day without sunshine...

Dre
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  • From: here, not over there
Posted by Dre on Wednesday, August 22, 2012 2:14 PM

I've got all the sunshine I can stand right now and no WIP pics either.... but lots of subassemblies ready to be sanded and cleaned up.   Work is getting in the way of modeling this week, blame NASCAR.

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  • From: Cameron, Texas
Posted by Texgunner on Wednesday, August 22, 2012 2:28 PM

I've got most of the parts in my MiG-17 cleaned up and ready for paint.  I've got a Tamiya Skyray about half-finished, so I'll have two "irons in the fire" for a while.  I haven't been in the mood for modeling much lately as our 30-year old son has had a serious health issue in the past few weeks.  We've received some good news in the last few days and are waiting on his surgery date. I'll get some MiG work done soon and post a pic or three.  There's a sheet of Kopro decals that would sure work well with the MiG-17 I'm planning but nobody has them in stock so far.  Oh well, it'll be a while before I need them.  


"All you mugs need to get busy building, and post pics!"

Dre
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    June 2007
  • From: here, not over there
Posted by Dre on Wednesday, August 22, 2012 2:39 PM

Just took advantage of Squadron's "loyal" sale to order a MiG-23MF Flogger and some PE for it...  nice price for 1/32....  I'm such an easy mark for a sale.

  • Member since
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  • From: Rothesay, NB Canada
Posted by VanceCrozier on Wednesday, August 22, 2012 2:57 PM

But it was on sale... Could you afford NOT to???

On the bench: Airfix 1/72 Wildcat; Airfix 1/72 Vampire T11; Airfix 1/72 Fouga Magister

Dre
  • Member since
    June 2007
  • From: here, not over there
Posted by Dre on Wednesday, August 22, 2012 4:33 PM

Exactly.....  can't wait for this year's Black Friday cybersale.

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 22, 2012 4:41 PM

Dre

Just took advantage of Squadron's "loyal" sale to order a MiG-23MF Flogger and some PE for it...  nice price for 1/32....  I'm such an easy mark for a sale.

Take 24% off for 24 hours

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    August 2012
Posted by Winetanker on Wednesday, August 22, 2012 8:32 PM

Can I join up with a Revell MiG-21??? ($17 on Amazon)

The color scheme looks basic enough I can always do it with rattlecans if my airbrush skills aren't up to snuff...

....working my way up the airbrush learning curve......

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 22, 2012 9:07 PM

Yes...

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Posted by Winetanker on Wednesday, August 22, 2012 9:39 PM

Great...kit should be here Friday...

....working my way up the airbrush learning curve......

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