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My Battle of Britain collection in 1/48th scale (well...thus far)......
Posted by lawdog114 on Monday, December 24, 2012 8:57 PM

Hello all, since I did ask my wife for the new 1/48 Eduard BF 109 E-3 for Christmas, coupled with my complete inability to shake my need to build Battle of Britain subjects, I figured I would post some pics of my Battle of Britain builds thus far in 1/48th scale.  I've included a very brief summary on each (some are several years old, so the details are sketchy).   

Eduard Messerschmitt ME 110C ZG 76:  I used Quickboost guns and exhausts, then used Xtradecal decals.  This was built about three or four years ago when I still used Model Master enamels. This was challenging fit-wise, especially in the fit of the engines.  On a positive note, it was my first experience with Eduard's masks which were the greatest invention since sliced bread.   

Monogram HE 111 H-2 KG 53 "Legion Condor":  I built this one about three years ago and again used Model Master paints.  I used Eduard seatbelts, True Details wheels and Xtradecals (from the same sheet as the ME 110).   I decided to make a little diorama with some figures and such. 

Tamiya Messerschmitt BF 109 E-4 JG 27:  I built this about two years ago and if I recall, its my first with strictly Tamiya paints.  I used an Ultracast seat and Aeromaster decals.  The figure is from the Hasegawa Pilot set. 

I will conclude with two subjects that were done as work in progress builds within the last few months on this forum.  Here are my examples of "The few", a 92 Squadron Tamiya Spitfire Mk I and a Hasegawa 601 Squadron Hurricane. 

I still have a Hasegawa Stuka B and Classic Airframes DO-17Z in the stash.  I'll get around to them eventually.  I just wish someone would produce a JU 88 A-1 to round out my collection.   Enjoy the pics and comments are always welocome. 

Merry Christmas everyone,

Joe  

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Posted by Jester75 on Monday, December 24, 2012 9:01 PM
Wow Joe, that is a fantastic collection you have there. Your airbrush skills a very impressive!! Looking forward to seeing you add more to your BoB set.

Eric

 

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Posted by Devil Dawg on Monday, December 24, 2012 9:08 PM

Impressive! Where do you keep the finished products? I would've already run out of display space with what you've pictured here.

Devil Dawg

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Posted by mississippivol on Monday, December 24, 2012 10:03 PM

Saaa-lute! Very nice collection you've built. One question, on the Heinkel, what do the white stripes on top of the wing signify?

Glenn

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Monday, December 24, 2012 10:21 PM

Impressive collection.  Superb workmanship.  A great tribute to a world-altering era.

 

 

 

 

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Posted by lawdog114 on Monday, December 24, 2012 10:24 PM

Thanks guys!  Devil Dawg, right now I keep them all stacked in appropriate sized boxes safe from dust and damage, that is until I finish remodeling my basement where I hope to build a display cabinet eventually.  Glenn, The stripes on the wing were targeting points for the Hurrianes and Spits.........nah. just kidding, I believe they had something to do with positioning in the formation.  Only the bombers had them so this theory is plausible.  It could be that the bombers with these markings were the lead plane in a particular combat box or whatever the Luftwaffe called it.  I've heard scuttlebut that these were actually pink, but I just couldn't bring myself to paint them that way.  I'm unfortunately the king of artistic licensing to suit my own modeling needs....

Joe

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, December 25, 2012 1:03 AM

Stunning builds. Being a Luftwaffe fan, i do like the He 111. Those wing bars could be pink or white. As with anything German, its never simple. They were indeed carried by the lead aircraft of a formation. But photo's show more than one aircraft in a unit carrying the same markings.

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Posted by 7474 on Tuesday, December 25, 2012 10:28 AM

I think the stripes were given to the aircraft of the flight, squadron, group and wing commanders. great collection

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Posted by coach on Tuesday, December 25, 2012 10:41 AM

Awesome. What was your technique for the panel lines. In particular on the spit and hurricane

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Posted by Dre on Tuesday, December 25, 2012 11:06 AM

This is a very nice BoB collection.  Do you plan on adding any French or Polish ex-pat aircraft?

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Posted by fox on Tuesday, December 25, 2012 12:03 PM

Bow Down Outstanding builds. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you and yours.

Jim Captain

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Posted by jeaton01 on Tuesday, December 25, 2012 5:37 PM

Nice bunch of builds!

John

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Posted by lawdog114 on Tuesday, December 25, 2012 8:35 PM

Thanks folks.  Coach, I kind of went from oldest to newest builds in the order of the planes.  The Spitfire and Hurricane are recently completed builds so my technique has evolved somewhat since the Luftwaffe subjects, such as the ME 110 and HE 111.  At that time, I only preshaded the panels lines before the scheme went down and I had a hard time determining where the panel line visibilty was either too much or not enough.  Now I think I figured this technique out so there is only a hint of it showing.   Furthermore, on my newer builds, I have experimented with "post-shading" after the scheme by means of very dilluted Tamiya NATO Black and Red Brown mixture.  I concentrate around panel lines that were subject to extra grime, like the engine area landing gear wells, etc.   If you wish, you can see how I do this in detail on my Hurricane and Spitfire in progress threads elsewhere in this "aircraft" forum.  Dre, I'm open to any Battle of Britain subjects, even the Defiant should a kit become available.  I have markings for some Polish Hurricanes somewhere as well.  Unfortunately I'm unfamiliar with the French participation in the battle, but I'm not opposed to a French subject either.  

Joe

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Posted by Flying Finn on Tuesday, December 25, 2012 9:38 PM

Top notch!  Well done!

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Posted by Dre on Tuesday, December 25, 2012 10:00 PM

Lawdog114- you an LEO?   We've got several around here...  keeps us honest (more or less).

I too am unfamiliar with the other players during the BoB, but I figured that a collection like that ought to have some Polish and Free French fighters in it.

Interesting that you use solid colors in the post shading- how strong do you lay that on?   I usually go with the clear smoke as a post shader but am always looking to try something new.

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Posted by lawdog114 on Tuesday, December 25, 2012 11:11 PM

Dre

Lawdog114- you an LEO?   We've got several around here...  keeps us honest (more or less).

Interesting that you use solid colors in the post shading- how strong do you lay that on?   I usually go with the clear smoke as a post shader but am always looking to try something new.

I prefer "garbage collector" or "waste management".,,,,its more accurate in my particular circumstances....lol.  The NATO Black and Red Brown mix is very diluted.  I keep it pre-mixed in a glass jar with 91% Iso alcohol and alter the consistency a bit as needed.  I saw a turorial on this technique once and I just tweeked it to fit  my needs.  It just seems to add another dimension to the finish, especially monochromatic ones.  I've tried Tamiya Smoke, but it takes too many passes to get the right intensity to my eye, and I don't have that kind of patience in this area unfortunately.  Besides, its kind of glossy.    

Joe 

 

 

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Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, December 26, 2012 11:35 AM

Beautiful work Joe! I hadn't seen the German aircraft, sharp work!

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Posted by antoni on Friday, December 28, 2012 5:07 AM

mississippivol

Saaa-lute! Very nice collection you've built. One question, on the Heinkel, what do the white stripes on top of the wing signify?

Glenn

 

There has been some speculation on what and how these markings were used but as far as I know nobody so far has found an entirely satisfactory explanation.

Bar markings feature in RAF Intelligence reports specifically dealing Do 17s and He 111s. They were employed during the period of heavy daylight raids on London from the beginning of September 1940. They were also applied to Ju 88s however there is no mention of 'bar markings' in reports of this type.

The earliest recorded use of these markings applied to the upper wings and sides of the fin and rudder is a photograph of two Do 17s of KG 76 reputedly taken over London during the evening of 7th September 1940. Both display a chord wise bar outboard of the national markings on the upper starboard wing. On one of them can be seen a single horizontal bar across the starboard fin and rudder.  

Kampflieger Vol 2 Bombers of the Luftwaffe July 1940 – December 1941 follows the widely excepted view that the markings were white and were either used to identify the leader or allow crews to easily identify aircraft in their Gruppe  while in close formation.

It is impossible to tell from back and white photographs exactly what colour the bar markings were, only that they were a light colour. It appears that the assumption has always been that these bar markings were white in colour. However, there is a body of documentary evidence in RAF Intelligence reports  that shows this was not always the case.

After the onset of daylight raids on London, a number of aircraft carrying such markings were lost over Britain which became the subjects of RAF Intelligence reports, many of which mention the presence of bar markings on the wreckage.

Two Do 17Zs of KG 76 lost on the afternoon of 15th September were the subjects of RAF Intelligence reports. The first, WNr 2555, coded F1+FS of 8./KG 76 made a forced landing at Lullingstone Castle, Shoreham at 13.00 hrs. The report records that the aircraft was coded F1+FS with the second F outlined in white; that there was a red band around the fuselage; that the spinners were red, and that there was a horizontal pink band about 12 ins wide on the outside of both rudders. Photographs of the wreck show that the term 'rudders' actually means fin and rudder. They also show a chord wise bar inboard of the national marking on the upper surface of the port wing and the 8./KG 76 emblem on the starboard side of the nose. None of these are mentioned in the report.

The second Do17Z,WNr 3322 coded F1+DT of 9./KG 76, came down at Underriver, Shipbourne at 13.30 hrs. The intelligence report stated that the 'D' of the codes was yellow and that there was a yellow band around the fuselage. On the port wing there was a pink stripe on the upper surface and a pink stripe on both rudders. As in the previous case rudders probably meant fin and rudder.

One other unidentified Do 17came down on Barn Hurst Golf Course, Bexley, at 14.30 hrs on 15th September had similar markings which the intelligence report describes as “pink stripe on wing tip and rudder. The only other marking that seems to have been visible is a white letter C, presumably  found on the upper surface of one of the wings.

Later in the afternoon of 15th September at 16.00 hrs, He 111 WNr 2771, coded A1+AN of 5./Kg 53, came down on West Malling aerodrome. The second letter A was outlined in white, spinners were red, and there were three vertical pink stripes on what the report calls, “both rudders”, presumably meaning both sides of the rudder. No mention is made of any wing markings. Whether this is because none were present or the officer did not notice them, or alternatively did not think them worth mentioning, is not known.  

Other secondary sources, book, magazine articles etc., have claimed the following had pink markings:-

Do 17Z WNr 3457, 5K+JM of 4./KG 3, crashed at Bexley in Kent 12.00 hrs 15th September 1940, which had “a pink stripe on wing tip and rudder”. Which wing tip is not stated.

Do 17Z WNr 2814, F1+AT of 9./KG 76 came down at Rotherfield, Kent, during afternoon 15 September 1940 and had two horizontal pink stripes, each 12 inches wide on each rudder. No mention of any wing markings.

He 111H-2 WNr 5718, AL+LN of 5./KG 53, shot down near Hornchurch at 14.35 hrs was found to have three vertical pink stripes on the rudder. Again no mention of wing markings.

The bar markings appear to have been used through October as shown by the wreckage of Do 17 WNr 2544, 5K+CH of 1./KG 3, which crashed 02.00 hrs on 28th October 1940, at Boughton Malherbe in Kent. The codes were all black and a large pink horizontal stripe was found on the rudder.

All the above RAF Intelligence reports describe the bar markings as being pink. Whether this is related to most of the aircraft found to have pink markings were lost on 15th September in not known, nor why the the colour pink was used.

While the evidence from RAF Intelligence reports, pink would appear to have been the most commonly used colour for bar markings, white is also known to have been used.  

White bar markings were found on a He 111 of 1./KG 26 which is said to have come down at Asplin Head on Foulness Island 1t 15.30 hrs on 15th September 1940. Said to be coded 1H+IJ with the letter 'I' and spinners in white, Although not certain, the aircraft may have actually been coded 1H+JH. Two white stripes ran vertically on the starboard side only of the fin and one stripe was found to run vertically on each side of the rudder, each stripe being about 13 inches wide. No mention is made of wing markings.  

White was also said to be found on remains of a He 111H-3, Wnr 5680, coded 1H+CB of Stab I/KG 26 which came down near Hornchurch at 16.20 hrs 11th September 1940. This aircraft is said to have had two white stripes on the port wing tip and rudder.

In the past it has also been claimed that yellow was used to aply these bar markings to wing and tail but as far as I know no RAF Intelligence reports have been found that confirm this. If true, this raises the possibility that these markings could have been applied in the three common staffel colours especially if it is assumed that pink was more a more highly visible equivalent to red. The theory breaks down when when the colour of the markings is compared with the last code letter in the combination that identifies the staffel to which the aircraft was assigned.

The first part of the mystery, is therefore, exactly what did the use of two, possibly three, colours signify?  

The second part of the mystery concerns the number of bars that could be applied to an individual aircraft. It is apparent from photographs that one, two, or three bars could be carried. Photographs have been found that show aircraft marked with one or three bars but aircraft with two bars seem particularly camera shy and as far as I am aware none have been discovered. However, the RAF Intelligence reports document the use of two bars on two different aircraft, both pink and white.

What the different number of bars signified is unknown as there does not seem to be any relationship between the number of bars and the Gruppe to which aircraft belonged within a Geschwader, which has been suggested in the past.

The third part off the mystery concerns the location of the bars on the airframe of individual aircraft. It is thought that the three bomber types under discussion carried bar markings on the vertical tail surfaces and upper surfaces of the wings. As a general rule it seems that Do 17s had horizontal bars across the outer surfaces of their fin and rudder whilst He 111s and Ju 88s had vertical bars, either on the fin or on the fin and rudder.

Contrary to popular belief, these markings do not appear to have always been applied to both sides of the tail surfaces of an aircraft.

Photographic evidence suggests that Do17s usually carried their wing bars chord wise, outboard of their national markings, whilst HE 111s and Ju 88s carried their markings span wise, inboard of their national markings. As usually there were however many variations and it is possible to find photographs of these types marked differently.

The bar markings were applied to the upper surfaces of either the port wing or the starboard wing, and it would appear occasionally to the upper surfaces of both wings. The number of bars on the wing(s) invariably correspond to the number of bars on the tail. Where tail markings were applied to one side of the tail this was invariably the same side as the wing markings.  

One curious thing about these markings is that documentation and photographs link them to the KG of Luftflotte 2. Whether this was because these markings were only applied by Lufftflotte 2 or whether they were also applied by Luftflotte 3 is no known.

How these markings were used has never been satisfactory explained. The combination of the three suggested colours, the number of the bars applied, and their differing positions on the aircraft gives one interpretation suggesting that they were related to the standard Luftwaffe bomber formation. The basic unit was said to have been some twenty or so aircraft in a double 'V' formation, each consisting of ten aircraft. Extended lines of these 'V' formations then made up the mass formation.

The interpretation is that three parallel columns might be allocated a colour and that the leading elements would carry one bar, the second two bars and the rear element three bars, and these markings would be changed before each operation. If this interpretation is correct, it would explain the lack of correlation between colour and staffel number and Gruppe and the practice of marking just one side of the aircraft according to which side of the formation it was to fly on. The colour assigned to each column  could also be changed from one operation to another, depending upon whether one, tow or three column formation was to be flown. This raises the possibility that a two column formation was the most common which would explain the lack of evidence for the third colour, yellow, being used if this colour was habitually assigned to the middle column.

The whole scheme would entail a lot of work for the ground staff if the markings had to be changed before every mission. Presumably the material used would have been lacquer 7120, a water washable distemper. If the markings were not changed the system would have been tactically inflexible with some units having to occupy the same position in the formation for several missions. The would however appear to be very flexible, allowing for casualties inflicted on the Luftwaffe by the RAF and/or unpredictable unserviceability of an individual aircraft. The markings could be altered to allow each Geschwader to operate the maximum number of aircraft available or required for each sortie without having to adhere to a rigid system dictated by the Staffel or Gruppe. Ultimately the reason why a cohesive system cannot be identified is because one did not exist, the markings changing form one sortie to the next.

There has been some speculation on what and how these markings were used but as far as I know nobody so far has found an entirely satisfactory explanation.

Bar markings feature in RAF Intelligence reports specifically dealing Do 17s and He 111s. They were employed during the period of heavy daylight raids on London from the beginning of September 1940. They were also applied to Ju 88s however there is no mention of 'bar markings' in reports of this type.

The earliest recorded use of these markings applied to the upper wings and sides of the fin and rudder is a photograph of two Do 17s of KG 76 reputedly taken over London during the evening of 7th September 1940. Both display a chord wise bar outboard of the national markings on the upper starboard wing. On one of them can be seen a single horizontal bar across the starboard fin and rudder.  

Kampflieger Vol 2 Bombers of the Luftwaffe July 1940 – December 1941 follows the widely excepted view that the markings were white and were either used to identify the leader or allow crews to easily identify aircraft in their Gruppe  while in close formation.

It is impossible to tell from back and white photographs exactly what colour the bar markings were, only that they were a light colour. It appears that the assumption has always been that these bar markings were white in colour. However, there is a body of documentary evidence in RAF Intelligence reports  that shows this was not always the case.

After the onset of daylight raids on London, a number of aircraft carrying such markings were lost over Britain which became the subjects of RAF Intelligence reports, many of which mention the presence of bar markings on the wreckage.

Two Do 17Zs of KG 76 lost on the afternoon of 15th September were the subjects of RAF Intelligence reports. The first, WNr 2555, coded F1+FS of 8./KG 76 made a forced landing at Lullingstone Castle, Shoreham at 13.00 hrs. The report records that the aircraft was coded F1+FS with the second F outlined in white; that there was a red band around the fuselage; that the spinners were red, and that there was a horizontal pink band about 12 ins wide on the outside of both rudders. Photographs of the wreck show that the term 'rudders' actually means fin and rudder. They also show a chord wise bar inboard of the national marking on the upper surface of the port wing and the 8./KG 76 emblem on the starboard side of the nose. None of these are mentioned in the report.

The second Do17Z,WNr 3322 coded F1+DT of 9./KG 76, came down at Underriver, Shipbourne at 13.30 hrs. The intelligence report stated that the 'D' of the codes was yellow and that there was a yellow band around the fuselage. On the port wing there was a pink stripe on the upper surface and a pink stripe on both rudders. As in the previous case rudders probably meant fin and rudder.

One other unidentified Do 17came down on Barn Hurst Golf Course, Bexley, at 14.30 hrs on 15th September had similar markings which the intelligence report describes as “pink stripe on wing tip and rudder. The only other marking that seems to have been visible is a white letter C, presumably  found on the upper surface of one of the wings.

Later in the afternoon of 15th September at 16.00 hrs, He 111 WNr 2771, coded A1+AN of 5./Kg 53, came down on West Malling aerodrome. The second letter A was outlined in white, spinners were red, and there were three vertical pink stripes on what the report calls, “both rudders”, presumably meaning both sides of the rudder. No mention is made of any wing markings. Whether this is because none were present or the officer did not notice them, or alternatively did not think them worth mentioning, is not known.  

Other secondary sources, book, magazine articles etc., have claimed the following had pink markings:-

Do 17Z WNr 3457, 5K+JM of 4./KG 3, crashed at Bexley in Kent 12.00 hrs 15th September 1940, which had “a pink stripe on wing tip and rudder”. Which wing tip is not stated.

Do 17Z WNr 2814, F1+AT of 9./KG 76 came down at Rotherfield, Kent, during afternoon 15 September 1940 and had two horizontal pink stripes, each 12 inches wide on each rudder. No mention of any wing markings.

He 111H-2 WNr 5718, AL+LN of 5./KG 53, shot down near Hornchurch at 14.35 hrs was found to have three vertical pink stripes on the rudder. Again no mention of wing markings.

The bar markings appear to have been used through October as shown by the wreckage of Do 17 WNr 2544, 5K+CH of 1./KG 3, which crashed 02.00 hrs on 28th October 1940, at Boughton Malherbe in Kent. The codes were all black and a large pink horizontal stripe was found on the rudder.

All the above RAF Intelligence reports describe the bar markings as being pink. Whether this is related to most of the aircraft found to have pink markings were lost on 15th September in not known, nor why the the colour pink was used.

While the evidence from RAF Intelligence reports, pink would appear to have been the most commonly used colour for bar markings, white is also known to have been used.  

White bar markings were found on a He 111 of 1./KG 26 which is said to have come down at Asplin Head on Foulness Island 1t 15.30 hrs on 15th September 1940. Said to be coded 1H+IJ with the letter 'I' and spinners in white, Although not certain, the aircraft may have actually been coded 1H+JH. Two white stripes ran vertically on the starboard side only of the fin and one stripe was found to run vertically on each side of the rudder, each stripe being about 13 inches wide. No mention is made of wing markings.  

White was also said to be found on remains of a He 111H-3, Wnr 5680, coded 1H+CB of Stab I/KG 26 which came down near Hornchurch at 16.20 hrs 11th September 1940. This aircraft is said to have had two white stripes on the port wing tip and rudder.

In the past it has also been claimed that yellow was used to aply these bar markings to wing and tail but as far as I know no RAF Intelligence reports have been found that confirm this. If true, this raises the possibility that these markings could have been applied in the three common staffel colours especially if it is assumed that pink was more a more highly visible equivalent to red. The theory breaks down when when the colour of the markings is compared with the last code letter in the combination that identifies the staffel to which the aircraft was assigned.

The first part of the mystery, is therefore, exactly what did the use of two, possibly three, colours signify?  

The second part of the mystery concerns the number of bars that could be applied to an individual aircraft. It is apparent from photographs that one, two, or three bars could be carried. Photographs have been found that show aircraft marked with one or three bars but aircraft with two bars seem particularly camera shy and as far as I am aware none have been discovered. However, the RAF Intelligence reports document the use of two bars on two different aircraft, both pink and white.

What the different number of bars signified is unknown as there does not seem to be any relationship between the number of bars and the Gruppe to which aircraft belonged within a Geschwader, which has been suggested in the past.

The third part off the mystery concerns the location of the bars on the airframe of individual aircraft. It is thought that the three bomber types under discussion carried bar markings on the vertical tail surfaces and upper surfaces of the wings. As a general rule it seems that Do 17s had horizontal bars across the outer surfaces of their fin and rudder whilst He 111s and Ju 88s had vertical bars, either on the fin or on the fin and rudder.

Contrary to popular belief, these markings do not appear to have always been applied to both sides of the tail surfaces of an aircraft.

Photographic evidence suggests that Do17s usually carried their wing bars chord wise, outboard of their national markings, whilst HE 111s and Ju 88s carried their markings span wise, inboard of their national markings. As usually there were however many variations and it is possible to find photographs of these types marked differently.

The bar markings were applied to the upper surfaces of either the port wing or the starboard wing, and it would appear occasionally to the upper surfaces of both wings. The number of bars on the wing(s) invariably correspond to the number of bars on the tail. Where tail markings were applied to one side of the tail this was invariably the same side as the wing markings.  

One curious thing about these markings is that documentation and photographs link them to the KG of Luftflotte 2. Whether this was because these markings were only applied by Lufftflotte 2 or whether they were also applied by Luftflotte 3 is no known.

How these markings were used has never been satisfactory explained. The combination of the three suggested colours, the number of the bars applied, and their differing positions on the aircraft gives one interpretation suggesting that they were related to the standard Luftwaffe bomber formation. The basic unit was said to have been some twenty or so aircraft in a double 'V' formation, each consisting of ten aircraft. Extended lines of these 'V' formations then made up the mass formation.

The interpretation is that three parallel columns might be allocated a colour and that the leading elements would carry one bar, the second two bars and the rear element three bars, and these markings would be changed before each operation. If this interpretation is correct, it would explain the lack of correlation between colour and staffel number and Gruppe and the practice of marking just one side of the aircraft according to which side of the formation it was to fly on. The colour assigned to each column  could also be changed from one operation to another, depending upon whether one, tow or three column formation was to be flown. This raises the possibility that a two column formation was the most common which would explain the lack of evidence for the third colour, yellow, being used if this colour was habitually assigned to the middle column.

The whole scheme would entail a lot of work for the ground staff if the markings had to be changed before every mission. Presumably the material used would have been lacquer 7120, a water washable distemper. If the markings were not changed the system would have been tactically inflexible with some units having to occupy the same position in the formation for several missions. The would however appear to be very flexible, allowing for casualties inflicted on the Luftwaffe by the RAF and/or unpredictable unserviceability of an individual aircraft. The markings could be altered to allow each Geschwader to operate the maximum number of aircraft available or required for each sortie without having to adhere to a rigid system dictated by the Staffel or Gruppe. Ultimately the reason why a cohesive system cannot be identified is because one did not exist, the markings changing form one sortie to the next.

There has been some speculation on what and how these markings were used but as far as I know nobody so far has found an entirely satisfactory explanation.

Bar markings feature in RAF Intelligence reports specifically dealing Do 17s and He 111s. They were employed during the period of heavy daylight raids on London from the beginning of September 1940. They were also applied to Ju 88s however there is no mention of 'bar markings' in reports of this type.

The earliest recorded use of these markings applied to the upper wings and sides of the fin and rudder is a photograph of two Do 17s of KG 76 reputedly taken over London during the evening of 7th September 1940. Both display a chord wise bar outboard of the national markings on the upper starboard wing. On one of them can be seen a single horizontal bar across the starboard fin and rudder.  

Kampflieger Vol 2 Bombers of the Luftwaffe July 1940 – December 1941 follows the widely excepted view that the markings were white and were either used to identify the leader or allow crews to easily identify aircraft in their Gruppe  while in close formation.

It is impossible to tell from back and white photographs exactly what colour the bar markings were, only that they were a light colour. It appears that the assumption has always been that these bar markings were white in colour. However, there is a body of documentary evidence in RAF Intelligence reports  that shows this was not always the case.

After the onset of daylight raids on London, a number of aircraft carrying such markings were lost over Britain which became the subjects of RAF Intelligence reports, many of which mention the presence of bar markings on the wreckage.

Two Do 17Zs of KG 76 lost on the afternoon of 15th September were the subjects of RAF Intelligence reports. The first, WNr 2555, coded F1+FS of 8./KG 76 made a forced landing at Lullingstone Castle, Shoreham at 13.00 hrs. The report records that the aircraft was coded F1+FS with the second F outlined in white; that there was a red band around the fuselage; that the spinners were red, and that there was a horizontal pink band about 12 ins wide on the outside of both rudders. Photographs of the wreck show that the term 'rudders' actually means fin and rudder. They also show a chord wise bar inboard of the national marking on the upper surface of the port wing and the 8./KG 76 emblem on the starboard side of the nose. None of these are mentioned in the report.

The second Do17Z,WNr 3322 coded F1+DT of 9./KG 76, came down at Underriver, Shipbourne at 13.30 hrs. The intelligence report stated that the 'D' of the codes was yellow and that there was a yellow band around the fuselage. On the port wing there was a pink stripe on the upper surface and a pink stripe on both rudders. As in the previous case rudders probably meant fin and rudder.

One other unidentified Do 17came down on Barn Hurst Golf Course, Bexley, at 14.30 hrs on 15th September had similar markings which the intelligence report describes as “pink stripe on wing tip and rudder. The only other marking that seems to have been visible is a white letter C, presumably  found on the upper surface of one of the wings.

Later in the afternoon of 15th September at 16.00 hrs, He 111 WNr 2771, coded A1+AN of 5./Kg 53, came down on West Malling aerodrome. The second letter A was outlined in white, spinners were red, and there were three vertical pink stripes on what the report calls, “both rudders”, presumably meaning both sides of the rudder. No mention is made of any wing markings. Whether this is because none were present or the officer did not notice them, or alternatively did not think them worth mentioning, is not known.  

Other secondary sources, book, magazine articles etc., have claimed the following had pink markings:-

Do 17Z WNr 3457, 5K+JM of 4./KG 3, crashed at Bexley in Kent 12.00 hrs 15th September 1940, which had “a pink stripe on wing tip and rudder”. Which wing tip is not stated.

Do 17Z WNr 2814, F1+AT of 9./KG 76 came down at Rotherfield, Kent, during afternoon 15 September 1940 and had two horizontal pink stripes, each 12 inches wide on each rudder. No mention of any wing markings.

He 111H-2 WNr 5718, AL+LN of 5./KG 53, shot down near Hornchurch at 14.35 hrs was found to have three vertical pink stripes on the rudder. Again no mention of wing markings.

The bar markings appear to have been used through October as shown by the wreckage of Do 17 WNr 2544, 5K+CH of 1./KG 3, which crashed 02.00 hrs on 28th October 1940, at Boughton Malherbe in Kent. The codes were all black and a large pink horizontal stripe was found on the rudder.

All the above RAF Intelligence reports describe the bar markings as being pink. Whether this is related to most of the aircraft found to have pink markings were lost on 15th September in not known, nor why the the colour pink was used.

While the evidence from RAF Intelligence reports, pink would appear to have been the most commonly used colour for bar markings, white is also known to have been used.  

White bar markings were found on a He 111 of 1./KG 26 which is said to have come down at Asplin Head on Foulness Island 1t 15.30 hrs on 15th September 1940. Said to be coded 1H+IJ with the letter 'I' and spinners in white, Although not certain, the aircraft may have actually been coded 1H+JH. Two white stripes ran vertically on the starboard side only of the fin and one stripe was found to run vertically on each side of the rudder, each stripe being about 13 inches wide. No mention is made of wing markings.  

White was also said to be found on remains of a He 111H-3, Wnr 5680, coded 1H+CB of Stab I/KG 26 which came down near Hornchurch at 16.20 hrs 11th September 1940. This aircraft is said to have had two white stripes on the port wing tip and rudder.

In the past it has also been claimed that yellow was used to aply these bar markings to wing and tail but as far as I know no RAF Intelligence reports have been found that confirm this. If true, this raises the possibility that these markings could have been applied in the three common staffel colours especially if it is assumed that pink was more a more highly visible equivalent to red. The theory breaks down when when the colour of the markings is compared with the last code letter in the combination that identifies the staffel to which the aircraft was assigned.

The first part of the mystery, is therefore, exactly what did the use of two, possibly three, colours signify?  

The second part of the mystery concerns the number of bars that could be applied to an individual aircraft. It is apparent from photographs that one, two, or three bars could be carried. Photographs have been found that show aircraft marked with one or three bars but aircraft with two bars seem particularly camera shy and as far as I am aware none have been discovered. However, the RAF Intelligence reports document the use of two bars on two different aircraft, both pink and white.

What the different number of bars signified is unknown as there does not seem to be any relationship between the number of bars and the Gruppe to which aircraft belonged within a Geschwader, which has been suggested in the past.

The third part off the mystery concerns the location of the bars on the airframe of individual aircraft. It is thought that the three bomber types under discussion carried bar markings on the vertical tail surfaces and upper surfaces of the wings. As a general rule it seems that Do 17s had horizontal bars across the outer surfaces of their fin and rudder whilst He 111s and Ju 88s had vertical bars, either on the fin or on the fin and rudder.

Contrary to popular belief, these markings do not appear to have always been applied to both sides of the tail surfaces of an aircraft.

Photographic evidence suggests that Do17s usually carried their wing bars chord wise, outboard of their national markings, whilst HE 111s and Ju 88s carried their markings span wise, inboard of their national markings. As usually there were however many variations and it is possible to find photographs of these types marked differently.

The bar markings were applied to the upper surfaces of either the port wing or the starboard wing, and it would appear occasionally to the upper surfaces of both wings. The number of bars on the wing(s) invariably correspond to the number of bars on the tail. Where tail markings were applied to one side of the tail this was invariably the same side as the wing markings.  

One curious thing about these markings is that documentation and photographs link them to the KG of Luftflotte 2. Whether this was because these markings were only applied by Lufftflotte 2 or whether they were also applied by Luftflotte 3 is no known.

How these markings were used has never been satisfactory explained. The combination of the three suggested colours, the number of the bars applied, and their differing positions on the aircraft gives one interpretation suggesting that they were related to the standard Luftwaffe bomber formation. The basic unit was said to have been some twenty or so aircraft in a double 'V' formation, each consisting of ten aircraft. Extended lines of these 'V' formations then made up the mass formation.

The interpretation is that three parallel columns might be allocated a colour and that the leading elements would carry one bar, the second two bars and the rear element three bars, and these markings would be changed before each operation. If this interpretation is correct, it would explain the lack of correlation between colour and staffel number and Gruppe and the practice of marking just one side of the aircraft according to which side of the formation it was to fly on. The colour assigned to each column  could also be changed from one operation to another, depending upon whether one, tow or three column formation was to be flown. This raises the possibility that a two column formation was the most common which would explain the lack of evidence for the third colour, yellow, being used if this colour was habitually assigned to the middle column.

The whole scheme would entail a lot of work for the ground staff if the markings had to be changed before every mission. Presumably the material used would have been lacquer 7120, a water washable distemper. If the markings were not changed the system would have been tactically inflexible with some units having to occupy the same position in the formation for several missions. The would however appear to be very flexible, allowing for casualties inflicted on the Luftwaffe by the RAF and/or unpredictable unserviceability of an individual aircraft. The markings could be altered to allow each Geschwader to operate the maximum number of aircraft available or required for each sortie without having to adhere to a rigid system dictated by the Staffel or Gruppe. Ultimately the reason why a cohesive system cannot be identified is because one did not exist, the markings changing form one sortie to the next.

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, December 28, 2012 8:58 AM

Interesting- thanks Antoni. After all these years of research gee we're still learning about the subject.

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Posted by lawdog114 on Sunday, December 30, 2012 7:38 PM

Thanks Antoni.  Impressive research.  So if I'm reading this correctly, my choice of white on the HE 111 may have been accurate after all......nice.

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Posted by Bish on Sunday, December 30, 2012 8:09 PM

Some great info there Antoni. That's some recherche you have done. Its odd that the Kampfflieger book you mention only mentions white bars. Classic colours Vol 2 of the Luftwaffe camoflage and markings, which was only printed a year after the Kampfflieger Vol 2, does mention white and Pink. Of course these books are by different authors, but still.

All goes to show just how complicated the study of anything to do with the WW2 German military can be.

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Posted by USFDon2012 on Sunday, December 30, 2012 8:20 PM

Excellent work. My hat's off to you. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!

Happy Modeling!

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