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Trumpeter TBM-3 Avenger paint colors

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Trumpeter TBM-3 Avenger paint colors
Posted by Dadret on Friday, December 27, 2013 4:31 PM
I got a 1/32 Trumpeter kit of the TBM-3 Avenger (Item No.02234) for Christmas and there are many references in the instruction booklet for paint colors of the detail parts (the typical H followed by a number) but there is no paint reference chart anywhere in the instructions or on the Painting and Marking guide. In fact, the Painting and Marking guide only shows decal placement and does not define the exterior color for the tri-color scheme version. Where can I find a Trumpeter paint reference chart? I goggled it and got nothing. I can probably figure out what the colors are but I'd like to be as accurate as possible.
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Posted by DiscoStu on Friday, December 27, 2013 5:41 PM

I believe they reference Humbrol paints.  You should be able to find painting cross references on line

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Posted by Dadret on Friday, December 27, 2013 6:23 PM

That's what I thought too but the numbers don't correspond to any Humbrol charts - i.e. there are many references  to H8 but Humbrol has no 8 and most numbers that do correspond to a Humbrol color don't make sense that the part would be that color,

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Posted by mustang1989 on Friday, December 27, 2013 6:45 PM

That thing outta be huge!! How big is that plane in 32nd scale?

                   

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Posted by Nathan T on Friday, December 27, 2013 7:22 PM

They are referencing Gunze paints. H should = Gunze Aqueous and C should be Mr. Color Lacquer.

 

 

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Posted by Dadret on Friday, December 27, 2013 9:13 PM

Its still in the box but it does look big compared to my other 1/32 WWII models.  I saw a real TBM at an air show a couple of years ago and was very surprised at how big it actually is.

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Posted by Dadret on Friday, December 27, 2013 9:17 PM

You're right the references are to Gunze paint and I found charts to convert the colors to the Tamiya and Model Master which I generally use. Thanks for the help

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Posted by Lindyphx on Friday, September 2, 2016 1:59 PM
Did you ever get an answer to your question ? I'm having the same problem
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Posted by 7474 on Saturday, September 3, 2016 10:27 AM

Why not just buy paint for any other WW2 USN aircraft that came in 1 of 4 schemes: Gray over white (Atlantic), White Intermediate Blue and Dark Blue, intermediate blue over light gray, or Gloss Dark Blue.

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Posted by rhays1 on Thursday, August 17, 2017 4:30 PM
I am also having the same problem
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Posted by GMorrison on Thursday, August 17, 2017 6:49 PM

http://www.clubhyper.com/reference/avengertricolorschemekw_1.htm

For a TBM-3 during the war, it's either the three-color scheme above (both FS25042 semi-gloss and FS35042 flat sea blue, over FS35164 intermediate blue, over flat white), or overall FS15042 gloss sea blue).

FS numbers above are matches, not the USN system at the time.

 

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Posted by iSteve on Thursday, May 31, 2018 11:42 AM

GMorrison

http://www.clubhyper.com/reference/avengertricolorschemekw_1.htm

For a TBM-3 during the war, it's either the three-color scheme above (both FS25042 semi-gloss and FS35042 flat sea blue, over FS35164 intermediate blue, over flat white), or overall FS15042 gloss sea blue).

What do you mean by "both FS25042 semi-gloss and FS35042 flat sea blue" ?

Do you mean together or one or the other were acceptable? I'd like the scheme for the Essex.

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Posted by stikpusher on Thursday, May 31, 2018 12:03 PM

Look at the link, it shows on the schematics where the semi gloss and non specular versions of Sea Blue are to be used on the airframe. It’s not either or, it’s both.

 

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Posted by iSteve on Thursday, May 31, 2018 12:26 PM

Oh I looked at the link. I just couldn't read it.

I figured out the differences - one's non-specular (FS 35042) and one's, basically, a semi-gloss. There is a tonal variation, but one that should be fairly easy to adjust. I've got FS 35042 and FS 15042 (gloss) so I should be able to cook something up that's relatively correct to FS 25042.

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Posted by stikpusher on Thursday, May 31, 2018 9:56 PM

iSteve

Oh I looked at the link. I just couldn't read it.

I figured out the differences - one's non-specular (FS 35042) and one's, basically, a semi-gloss. There is a tonal variation, but one that should be fairly easy to adjust. I've got FS 35042 and FS 15042 (gloss) so I should be able to cook something up that's relatively correct to FS 25042.

 

I suppose you could mix the two at a 50:50 ratio to get semi gloss.

But yes, on federal standard colors, the first digit denotes the finish. 1 is gloss, 2 is semi gloss, and 3 is flat. The second digit denotes the basic color range: 0 is browns, 1 is reds, 2 is oranges, 3 is yellows, 4 is greens, 5 is blues, 6 is grays, 7 is others, 8 is fluorescents. The last three digits designate the individual color shade within the range.

 

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Posted by damouav on Friday, June 1, 2018 12:56 AM

You could try Mr. Paint, I will be using their laquer paints for my Hobby Boss TBF-1. They have a  good range of US WW2 aircraft paint that is a very close match to the original.

Have a look here for actual colour reference.

https://www.cybermodeler.com/aircraft/tbf/tbf_profile01.shtml

I hope this helps.

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