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Question for Pixelator re Me262A-1A Color Scheme

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Question for Pixelator re Me262A-1A Color Scheme
Posted by rjkplasticmod on Wednesday, February 25, 2004 7:42 PM
This is directed to Pix because he seems to have good knowledge of the Me262, but if anyone else can help, please chime in.

Iv'e pretty much completed construction of a Tamiya Me262A-1A and am close to the prime/paint stage. I plan on portraying the model as Heinz Bar's Red 13. The Tamiya painting guide shows the bird in RLM 74/75/76 scheme, but the Aeromaster decal sheet #48-336 that I plan to use shows it as RLM 82/83/76. My references on the Me-262A are limited and I was hoping the Forum could save me some time searching for a reliable reference. Considering the late war time frame, I kinda lean toward the RLM 82/83/76 scheme or possibly RLM 81/82/76, rather than the Tamiya guide. Any guidance would be greatly appreciated.
RICK At My Age, I've Seen It All, Done It All, But I Don't Remember It All...
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, February 25, 2004 7:52 PM
Definately go with the RLM 82 & 83. I have yet to see a 262 in 74 & 75. Check out the Me 262 group build. I have included links there to a few sites with pics of Me 262s.

For Heinz Bar's 262, I have seen profiles with and without mottling on the fuselage sides. So if painting the mottle is difficult for you, it needn't be done. I'll dig around & see what I can find out for you about the specific bird. Is there a W. Nr. included on the sheet? If so, what is it?

I just found this pic painted in 81 & 82 over 76.



I have two decal sheets for Heinz Bar's 262, W. Nr. 110559
The Trimaster sheet says RLM 81 & 82 over 76
The SuperScale sheet says RLM 82 & 83 over 76.
The search goes on...

Here's some more pics, all war-time, some in color.
http://www.luftwaffepics.com/lme2621.htm
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Posted by rjkplasticmod on Wednesday, February 25, 2004 8:36 PM
Thanx Pix, sorry for mispelling your screen name. The Aeromaster sheet says no mottle on the fuselage sides, but there is mottle on the fin & rudder. Not a problem for me as I can handle that type of airbrushing. Actually I would prefer mottle on the fuselage, but I like to be as accurate as possible. The Wrks # on the decal sheet is 110559. I was pretty sure the 74/75/76 scheme was wrong, but I haven't built an Me-262 in several years. Only other was a DML/Dragon kit. I was surprised how similar the parts break down on the Tamiya kit was to the older kit, although the Tamiya fit better than I recall the DML/Dragon kit. Again thank you for the response and any further info would be welcome.
RICK At My Age, I've Seen It All, Done It All, But I Don't Remember It All...
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Posted by rjkplasticmod on Wednesday, February 25, 2004 8:56 PM
For some reason the above post didn't record on the Forum index, but it shows up ok. I'll post this so you know I did respond.
RICK At My Age, I've Seen It All, Done It All, But I Don't Remember It All...
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Posted by Jeff Herne on Wednesday, February 25, 2004 9:46 PM
I've seen 262s in 81/82/76, 82/83/76, even 81/83/76. RLM 74/75/76 were pretty much out of use on any of the new aircraft types coming into service in late '44 early '45, such as 262s, 163s, 152s, 190D-9s, and Ar-234s. Of course, there exceptions to the rule, a good example being Lennartz' Me-262 'White 11', Wk Nm 170061of Erprobungskommmando 262, which was painted in RLM 74/75/76!!!

With regards to Bar's 262 'Rot 13', the Werk Nummer is 110559, and as of March 19,1945, there was no mottling on the fuselage sides, but there was some RLM 76 mottling on the tail. It carried a yellow stripe forward of the fuselage cross.

The demarcation line between the upper colors and RLM 76 was a bit higher than usual on 262s, and although the line was wavy, it was a sharp demarcation line, not a soft one.

A good reference is Sundin and Bergstrom's Luftwaffe Fighter Aircraft in Profile. They do some pretty exhaustive research. If you'd like a scan of the aircraft, let me know.

Jeff
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Posted by rjkplasticmod on Thursday, February 26, 2004 6:41 PM
Thanks Jeff for the reply. If it's not a lot of trouble, I'd love to see the scan. I primed the model today and after cleanup of a few minor boo-boo's, I hope to start painting the camo this weekend. Curiose about the yellow fuselage stripe as it doesn't appear on the other references. Thanks again.
RICK At My Age, I've Seen It All, Done It All, But I Don't Remember It All...
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Posted by Jeff Herne on Thursday, February 26, 2004 6:54 PM
Here ya go...

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Posted by rjkplasticmod on Thursday, February 26, 2004 8:23 PM
Jeff, thanks much for posting the scan. Really appreciate your time. One fact about research, if you only check one reference you will probably get it wrong and if you check more you will probably get confused. Oh well, it's part of what I love about the hobby. Thanks again.
RICK At My Age, I've Seen It All, Done It All, But I Don't Remember It All...
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