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1/72 C-130H Hercules - 40th AS - "Screamin' Eagles"

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1/72 C-130H Hercules - 40th AS - "Screamin' Eagles"
Posted by SteveH1Eng on Wednesday, February 12, 2014 11:09 PM

I found out the other day that the C-130H aircraft that I used to maintain at Dyess AFB, Texas have either been retired, turned into ground trainers or transferred to other bases. The last C-130H left Dyess on 26 September 2012.

For 37 years Dyess' C-130 Hercules and its Airmen have built a legacy in the Air Force. That legacy came to end Sept. 26 as the last two C-130H models, tail numbers 1667 and 2063, departed for Little Rock AFB, Ark. On March 31, 1975, the H model era began when Dyess received the very first C-130H to roll off the Lockheed Martin assembly line. Over the next two years Dyess would eventually attain 52 more H models.

Dyess AFB is now home to the largest C-130J-30 Super Hercules inventories in the USAF.

I arrived at Dyess AFB as an A1C in February 1991. When I was assigned the C-130H were assigned to the 463d Tactical Airlift Wing (TAW), 463d Aircraft Generation Squadron (AGS) as a flightline Guidance and Control Troop. Around the end of 1991, the AGS concept went away and we were all assigned to Operations. We were all absorbed into the 773d Airlift Squadron. When the Air Force decided to do away with SAC, MAC and TAC to the now familiar, ACC and AMC. All tactical airlift assets, i.e., C-130s were assign to ACC. The 463d Airlift Wing and the 96th Bomb Wing stood down and we all fell under the new "One Base, One Wing" concept. Carswell AFB was closed and the 7 Wing stood up at Dyess AFB. The 772nd and 773d Airlift Squadrons stood down and the 39th and 40th Airlift Squadrons stood up, after standing down at Pope AFB.

The C-130H aircraft during the ACC years carried the familiar Tail Codes found on all ACC aircraft. In this case, "DY". The 40th AS carried a blue strip at the top of the vertical. This will be the basis for my model as they were the last C-130Hs I worked prior to be reassigned to Robins AFB, Georgia.

C-130H 74-1673


C-130H 74-2072


(Photo posted under "Fair Use")

With that said, a goal of mine has always been to model all the aircraft I was associated with during my aviation career. Why not start with the first one?

I want to do all of the aircraft in flight. Here is the beginning of my project:





The kit, out of the box, really doesn't represent the C-130E/H moniker on the box. Now that I think about it, it doesn't represent any flying C-130 version. At best, it may represent a C-130C, possibly a C-130D. This is due to the fact the kit still retains the original Allison T56-A-9 engine nacelles. These were used on early C-130 models. Later versions were upgraded to the T56-A-7 and -A-15 versions, which have a longer nacelle. I have seen C-130As with the Hamilton Standard four bladed prop fitted to the early engines.

Another area on the kit that is incorrect is the left and right sponsons. They are correct of early Herks, but later versions, the sponson was lengthened. This is very apparent when looking at photos of A and B versions versus E and H versions. The give away is looking at the prop arc line on the side of the fuselage. THIS IS NOT EASILY CORRECTED! I am leaving the kit as is for this build.

For years Testors and Italeri have marketed this kit as an E/H. While it is half right for an E model, it is about 1/4 right for an H1-H3 Herk model. The kit is missing some key components to make it a semi accurate H1-H3. Namely the two intake scoops on the right side of the fuselage. The E model NACA intake are molded into the fuselage. The lower Station Keeping Equipment (SKE) radome is missing.

Later C-130H3 Herks have additional and relocated pitot tubes and the paratroop doors have square port hole windows versus round windows for in previous versions and early H models. H3 have a different porthole arrangement on the forward fuselage.

Interestingly, Italeri's C-130J Super Hercules kit includes all the parts to make the H more accurate. Why they don't include Parts Tree F from the C-130J kit and amend the instructions to build the H model is beyond me.

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Posted by SteveH1Eng on Wednesday, February 12, 2014 11:10 PM

Flight deck update...

Updated from the early C-130A configuration to a later H configuration. Built the Nav side bulkhead, lowered on of the crew rest bunks and built the box to go under it (it's a storage compartment on the real aircraft), made the step at the end of the bunk (used for making sextant shots on the 130s I worked) and shortened the Nav table. Filled in the slot for the second navigation seat (our Hs only had one nav).

I'm not going to go totally overboard with this. It's really more for my benefit knowing that I corrected it somewhat and I know that it's in there.

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Posted by SteveH1Eng on Wednesday, February 12, 2014 11:11 PM

After a little more research, you can actually build an Early C-130H with this kit. The first H's look very much like an E model. The give away is a 73-XXXX tail number. These are known as standard H or H Zero . Dyess got the first C-130H1's then following production with upgraded H2 and finally H3's (which Dyess never flew).

1973 Model C-130H Hercules, Tail 73-1597 - H0 (Posted Under Fair Use)

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Posted by SteveH1Eng on Wednesday, February 12, 2014 11:12 PM

Nacelle and tank test fit...had nothing better to do while glue dried.

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Posted by SteveH1Eng on Wednesday, February 12, 2014 11:13 PM

I'm calling this done.

No one is going to be able to see this unless the get right up on it. As we used to say, "good enough for government work"

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Posted by SteveH1Eng on Wednesday, February 12, 2014 11:13 PM

Wings glued up, horizontals glues up, shimmed the outboard engine mounts, 2 engines nacelles attached... props dry fitted





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Posted by SteveH1Eng on Wednesday, February 12, 2014 11:14 PM

Around 1994-ish, our Herks went through EW mod. Here is the beginning of the EW mod process. Fill in the forward, lower cheater windows



Test fit of windscreen, flight deck is complete and painted and two of the props got some paint on them!

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Posted by SteveH1Eng on Wednesday, February 12, 2014 11:15 PM

The part I hate the most is done!!
Props dry fitted...look pretty good!

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Posted by SteveH1Eng on Wednesday, February 12, 2014 11:17 PM

Flight Deck is just about done...all that's left is the control yokes...once those are painted it'll be time to close up the fuselage.

Take a guess how much of this you can see once it's closed.  

When I was in the 40th, we wore black squadron hats with a head-on shot of a C-130. So I painted my crew in black hats. Not that any of the crew ever wore them while flying. I do remember this one pilot wearing a Cleveland Indians hat!

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Posted by SteveH1Eng on Wednesday, February 12, 2014 11:18 PM

I'm calling the Flightdeck done!

I found a couple of helmet bags in the Hasegawa Pilot/Ground Crew set



Next...close up the fuselage.

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Posted by SteveH1Eng on Wednesday, February 12, 2014 11:19 PM

Starting on the C-130H(H1) "updates"

The C-130E/C-130H "Super E" NACA inlet needs to be filled in for an H1. The AC Pack scoop from the Italeri C-130J kit needs to be added and then filled and faired in to the contour of the right side forward sponson.



Closing up the fuselage left a lot to be desired. I did run strip styrene along the inside problem areas where there was a potential step when I mated the two halves, but there were still some problems in other areas. Nothing a little filling an sanding can't fix.



Here are the differences in the two left side forward sponsons. The left one is the GTC (Ground Turbine Compressor) version for early aircraft. The right one is the APU (Auxiliary Power Unit) version for H1-H3 and J aircraft.

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Posted by SteveH1Eng on Wednesday, February 12, 2014 11:20 PM

The Italeri C-130J upper SKE radome is a perfect match for the C-130H Lower SKE radome. The C-130E/H kit already comes with the upper SKE radome. Here you can also see the AC pack inlet scoop filled and faired in.


Attached to the left sponson is the C-130J APU forward sponson part..."correct" for an H1-H3 Hercules.


Bottom shot showing the lower SKE radome and the AC Pack scoop.

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Posted by SteveH1Eng on Wednesday, February 12, 2014 11:20 PM

Updated the Beaver Tail to represent the EW mod. On the E/H. the tail was made longer.

I modified the J part and grafted it on the H tail.

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Posted by SteveH1Eng on Wednesday, February 12, 2014 11:21 PM

Blanking plates


EW Receivers

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Posted by SteveH1Eng on Wednesday, February 12, 2014 11:22 PM

Italeri J model EW receivers installed on the blanking plates - Needed for E/H model APR-39 upgrade conversion.


Italeri J model forward AC scoop installed - need for H1-H3 conversion.

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Posted by SteveH1Eng on Wednesday, February 12, 2014 11:23 PM

Horizontals are finally glued on and filled, but what I am more excited about is that my engraved plate came in!!

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Posted by SteveH1Eng on Wednesday, February 12, 2014 11:24 PM

I ended up scratch building the SATCOM antenna. It was easier than I thought it was going to be.

Here the latest and greatest...Primed and Antenna'd.  I'm having a hard time deciding if I want to paint this model AMC Gray. I remember when these aircraft were first painted gray, they seemed to be a lighter gray than what present day AMC Gray. Maybe my memory is playing tricks on me. Anyone out there have any thoughts.

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Posted by jeaton01 on Thursday, February 13, 2014 12:29 AM

Nice post.  I'm always confused about the nacelle differences.

John

To see build logs for my models:  http://goldeneramodel.com/mymodels/mymodels.html

 

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Posted by GMorrison on Thursday, February 13, 2014 12:34 AM

I agree but I remain confuffeled.

I built my B from that kit and basically remodeled the nacelles out of putty, sort of by eye. I assume the various marks had a different engine.

John you gave me the H Airfix kit, looking to model it soon as a KC-130.

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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Posted by Pawel on Thursday, February 13, 2014 2:15 AM

Hello!

That's a very informative post. I wish somebody made a similar post about a Vietnam-era C-130. Modelling aircraft (and other equipment, too) with long life spans always gives you problems to find out what whas modified when and on which machines.

Thanks for sharing, have a nice day

Paweł

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

www.vietnam.net.pl

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Posted by SteveH1Eng on Thursday, February 13, 2014 7:45 AM

Pawel,

The Vietnam era Herks do get a bit convoluted. I recall one of my co-workers that was stationed at Rhein-Main AB telling me that all of the 130's he worked on were all Vietnam era birds.

I remember him telling me that they had one aircraft that they called "FrankenHerk". If I remember right it was three aircraft rebuilt into one. It was the nose of an E model, the wings of a B Model and like the tail of an A model. He said the wiring diagrams were hand drawn and shoved into the tech manual.

If you want more information on the H model, look here. It's a write-up I did for our clubs newsletter.

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Posted by SteveH1Eng on Thursday, February 13, 2014 8:06 AM

Jeaton01,

As far as nacelle differences go... for USAF versions remember this:

Short Nacelle: C-130A, B, C, D have the T56-A-9 engine. These are provided in the Italeri kit

Long Nacelle: C-130Es have the T56-A-7 engine (weird, I know the smaller number) and the C-130H has the T56-A-15 engine.

C-130Js have the AE2100 enignes which a different shape and prop. (You probably know that.)

The Navy and Marine and Foreign Military Herks...I honestly have no idea. It may be a safe assumption that the C-130F, K, M, P, Q, R, S, T, U, V, W all use the long nacelle, but I am not 100% sure. Check references if you go this route.

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Posted by Stage_Left on Thursday, February 13, 2014 9:06 AM

Steve- nice work and thanks for the info on the a/c details! Yes

Dave

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Posted by jeaton01 on Thursday, February 13, 2014 12:02 PM

Thanks, Steve.

John

To see build logs for my models:  http://goldeneramodel.com/mymodels/mymodels.html

 

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Posted by Pawel on Thursday, February 13, 2014 2:11 PM

Yeah, thanks for the info Steve! I remeber reading about the FrankenHerk looong time ago on a C130 related forum like 15 years ago. But I'd go for something more typical. From what I hear my best bet for a Vietnam era Herk would be an A or B model. Have to work on that yet. Good luck with your project and have a nice day

Paweł

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

www.vietnam.net.pl

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Posted by SteveH1Eng on Wednesday, February 19, 2014 10:25 PM
Photo showing HF Long wire antennas. Had to do a little work around the windscreen. Next up: Painting
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Posted by wayne baker on Thursday, February 20, 2014 8:17 AM

KC130F used T56-A7 engines when I worked on 130's in the 60's.

 I may get so drunk, I have to crawl home. But dammit, I'll crawl like a Marine.

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Posted by riptide on Thursday, February 20, 2014 2:33 PM

excellent work. i use to hump theses as a security specialist among other planes.

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Posted by SteveH1Eng on Thursday, February 20, 2014 11:03 PM
I got the Eduard Windshield Mask put on. I'm actually impressed with these!! I think she's ready for paint...
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Posted by Buckeye on Friday, February 21, 2014 11:31 AM

Very nice work!

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