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Posted by F-8fanatic on Monday, January 12, 2015 2:39 PM

If you REALLY want to do something a little different, here's where I would take this....

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Clink on the pic "dirty dancing".....that had to be one seriously high "pucker factor" moment for the Crusader driver....

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Posted by Blairy on Sunday, November 16, 2014 11:04 PM

So I have made my decision to go with the MV-22 refueling the F-35B as per the photo above in a recent trial in 1/48. This is going to be one big dio!

Concept is as follows, with chrome tubing holding the aircraft up and timber base and obviously with the refueling line in between which I have not drawn:

I haven't been able to find much information at all on this test and am not sure whether fuel was actually passed through. Mid 2013 the first privately funded trials were conducted by Bell-Boeing with a prototype of the roll-on/roll-off aerial refueling system that fits in the cabin of the V-22. While the USMC and USN requested the trials the USAF are also interested in this concept. The first trials were conducted with F/A-18C's and D's, reports coming from the hornet pilots were that the stability of the drogue behind the large rotors were just as stable as the KC-135. 

Here are some extra links where I have grabbed some information if you want a read. Link 1 & Link 2

If you have any extra information please feel free to post.

Regards

Eli

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Posted by Blairy on Thursday, November 13, 2014 6:12 PM

And by the looks of it, the Osprey doesn't utilize any external components for refueling.

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Posted by TarnShip on Thursday, November 13, 2014 5:20 PM

Wow, not only does it look cool, but, you might end up being the first one to do that combo in model form.

Since they are kits, all of the others might have been done before.,,,,,,this photo is something like last week or last month, or something recent like that.

Rex

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Posted by Blairy on Thursday, November 13, 2014 4:49 PM

I think I have found the one! how cool would this look!

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Posted by TarnShip on Wednesday, November 12, 2014 8:02 PM

oh, and there was a third method,,,,,,,,a boom that swung down away from the Navy tanker, and sent a hose back out of the end of it with the drogue deployed from that hose.

Search for things like Savage refueling and early Phantom testing a refueling pod, I think there was an A-3 involved in those tests also.

Rex

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Posted by TarnShip on Wednesday, November 12, 2014 8:00 PM

Seasick, the contrast between the two systems is why my Uncle and I used to tease my little brother about the Navy and Marines having Male Aircraft and his Air Force having Females. (he was at George with the Weasel guys)

That late pod in Dave Roof's post is the type currently used on the Super Hornet, Blairy. I don't know why NASA did the flight tests for it. I guess that NACA might have done the testing on the D-704 back in the old days,,,,,,,but, I was just a kid back then.

Rex

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Posted by seasick on Wednesday, November 12, 2014 6:49 PM

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Posted by Blairy on Wednesday, November 12, 2014 6:19 PM

TarnShip

here is an OOB kit that does what you want, it is a Legacy Hornet with the newest refueling store

www.zone-five.net/showthread.php

you get one to do the decals and the pod, and any other 1/48 to do the receiving aircraft.

It is a bit large,,,,,,,,but two 1/48 Hornets might take up less space than two of the larger jets.

Rex

seems like that would really work, will have to find some other decals though. Do the supers use the same pod?

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Posted by Blairy on Wednesday, November 12, 2014 6:18 PM

so many ideas! sounds like this diorama could be a real hit.

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Posted by TarnShip on Tuesday, November 11, 2014 3:25 AM

that's pretty cool, another KA-6D model that includes the D-704 in the kit, that allows you to model the Tanker with the pod that was often carried as a backup plan

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Posted by Phil_H on Tuesday, November 11, 2014 2:55 AM

If you want to go small-scale (1/144), there's also this set, if you can get your hands on one.

http://www.dragon-models.com/d-m-item.asp?pid=DRA4595

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Posted by TarnShip on Tuesday, November 11, 2014 1:15 AM

here is an OOB kit that does what you want, it is a Legacy Hornet with the newest refueling store

www.zone-five.net/showthread.php

you get one to do the decals and the pod, and any other 1/48 to do the receiving aircraft.

It is a bit large,,,,,,,,but two 1/48 Hornets might take up less space than two of the larger jets.

Rex

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Posted by GMorrison on Monday, November 10, 2014 10:37 PM

I don't think that refueling kit is real. Asked around a bit never seen by my friends.

Hustler was 1/94

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Posted by seasick on Monday, November 10, 2014 10:28 PM

For the Super Hornet my source says the Buddy store setup as follows: A total of four 480 gallon tanks on stations on the two inboard hard points under each wing. On the centerline station its the same 330 gallon unit used for the buddy store on the Classic Hornet, and S-3. The E and F can both do it but the E carries more fuel.  One thing, if you want your Super Hornet to carry a heavy load of ordinance but are bumping in to your maximum launch weight, Cat with low fuel, and top your tank once in the air, and you are on your way. Smile

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Posted by mach71 on Monday, November 10, 2014 6:35 AM

After a further search it appears they are 1/240 scale.

I've found the KC-135 with a B-58 and a KC-135 with a B-47.

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Posted by Phil_H on Monday, November 10, 2014 5:16 AM

richs26
It could be something oddball like1/153rd or some such scale.

Definitely oddball - if the source kits are the ones I believe they are, the KC-135 is 1/139 scale and the B-58 is 1/94

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Posted by richs26 on Monday, November 10, 2014 12:46 AM

That is more likely Revell's old boxscale models, meaning that the model was designed to fit a standard-sized box with scale being not a standard scale like 1/200th. It could be something oddball like1/153rd or some such scale.

WIP:  Monogram 1/72 B-26 (Snaptite) as 73rd BS B-26, 40-1408, torpedo bomber attempt on Ryujo

Monogram 1/72 B-26 (Snaptite) as 22nd BG B-26, 7-Mile Drome, New Guinea

Minicraft 1/72 B-24D as LB-30, AL-613, "Tough Boy", 28th Composite Group

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Posted by mach71 on Sunday, November 9, 2014 7:49 PM

I found this while searching the web.

www.boxartden.com/.../Revell-SAC-Refueling-Team

I hope that was a real kit! I'm guessing it was a small scale. Maybe 1/200?

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Posted by GMorrison on Friday, October 31, 2014 4:21 PM

Go For broke!

Matchbox Victor K2 refueling an Airfix Vulcan during Operation Black Buck.

Academy makes a really cool KC-97G and the -97L with jet engines.

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Posted by Fly-n-hi on Friday, October 31, 2014 1:14 AM

Blairy
I stand corrected. More research i shall do.....

Minicraft is coming out with a 1/144 KC-135R pretty soon.  t sounds like its gonna be a nice kit!  That might be exactly what you need.

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Posted by Blairy on Friday, October 31, 2014 1:05 AM
I stand corrected. More research i shall do.....
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Posted by richs26 on Thursday, October 30, 2014 10:08 PM

That should be a KC-135R to be compatible with a C-17 as A models were long gone by the time the C-17 arrived.

WIP:  Monogram 1/72 B-26 (Snaptite) as 73rd BS B-26, 40-1408, torpedo bomber attempt on Ryujo

Monogram 1/72 B-26 (Snaptite) as 22nd BG B-26, 7-Mile Drome, New Guinea

Minicraft 1/72 B-24D as LB-30, AL-613, "Tough Boy", 28th Composite Group

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Posted by Blairy on Thursday, October 30, 2014 1:52 AM
Thanks for all the ideas. I think I have made a decision on what exactly i want to do, and it is a combination of a few of all your ideas. When i get to a proper computer I will whip up a quick blueprint and post it up. I am thinking of a 1/144 KC-135A and C-17
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Posted by RobGroot4 on Thursday, October 30, 2014 12:40 AM

If you are interested in fighter-fighter, Wolfpack makes a 1/48 refueling pod for an F/A-18E/F as an AM resin piece.  It looks like they are planning to do one in 1/72 (towards the bottom).  

[The links look like they may not take you straight to the items, if not, go to resin at the top, and then select 1/48 or 1/72 and just hit ctrl+F and search for "refuel," they also offer probe kits that will be useful to you.]

It is worth noting that the pod itself is shaped differently (the little propeller thing at the front which would be easy to scratch) and the flared end at the back for the drogue (not so easy to scratch).  Wolfpack's drogue is in the closed/stowed position, but I imagine one could be pretty easily scratch-built with a little wire.

I've got one of these for an F/A-18E in my stash and it looks nicer than the pictures on the website.  Good luck!

Groot

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Posted by Jim Barton on Wednesday, October 29, 2014 4:22 PM

You'll probably need a decent amount of space to display the finished models, even in 1/72-scale, but it sounds like a different idea!

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Posted by Straycat1911 on Wednesday, October 29, 2014 10:15 AM

I used to have that C-5 model; sold it off to a guy needed it more than me. It was an excellent kit, but very hard to find anymore.

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Posted by Straycat1911 on Wednesday, October 29, 2014 10:14 AM

Don, in 1:144 scale, would the tip of a Bic pen work? Cut it via the LAR method, trim the inside to scale thickness?

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