Hasegawa F-4E Phantom II

How long does the pitot tube on the tail need to be? Also, I have seen photos of F-4's with 2 pitot tubes on the tail...this kit has just the one I broke off. What's the difference?

Thank you sir. I stretched out a sprue to those numbers. That'll work fine. There may have been one in the kit that I scrapped with all the trimmed sprue pieces, but this will work ok.

As far as I recall, there's a nose pitot tube in the kit. It may be a little heavy but it's in there. 

Sarge, you are looking to make your nose pitot look like part number P-13 at the bottom of this page (it is the newer Hasegawa 1/72 kit)  www.1999.co.jp/.../3

I measured one of mine, and you want it to be .436 inch long, with that thick part at .282 long. 30 thou thick, with 15 thou thick on the thin part.

hope this helps

Rex

Ok, so is this a "long nose?" If so I need to fab a pitot tube for the nose. In 1:72, how long should it be? If I have to do one for the nose, I might as well do the one for the tailfin that I broke off too.....how long should that one be....does it have any shape or is it just a straight needle point.

Re the gun shround, lemme see if I can do a "retrofit"....

SargeUSMC

Ugh.....ok, so now that I'm thoroughly confused....heheheheh........this thing has a nose cannon. AND, after attaching the shroud, I found another one in the box....longer.....

The short muzzle fairing was used on earlier aircraft. The longer fairing was a later upgrade (to reduce engine ingestion of gun gases), utilised in new-builds and retrofitted to earlier aircraft. 

All phantoms had a tail hook. And long noses had the pitot tube up front

Ugh.....ok, so now that I'm thoroughly confused....heheheheh........this thing has a nose cannon. AND, after attaching the shroud, I found another one in the box....longer.....and I've also seen photos of F-4's with probes extending from the nose......I don't know that the nomenclature is, but there is no nose probe in this kit.......I suppose I could stretch a sprue out.....but it does have a TAILHOOK tho, ....hehehehe....guess I'll be tossing that into the spare parts tub.

Yes, the Germans had RF-4Es, and F-4Fs (in case you meant the gunned version)

Thanks for the correction tarn. I thought the photo-recon F-4 was an E conversion because of the nose extension. I think the Germans also flew Es, anyone?

Thanks Sarge...I dunno if you noticed but, I did use a set of after market seats, cockpit detail set and Hase weapons set...made a big difference in the quality of the outcome, IMO.

You are the freekin' man! What a build. I could learn a lot from you too......

Here's the link, Sarge, to the USMC GB:

cs.finescale.com/.../160457.aspx

The work in progress is a few pages back. It was my Marines tribute build.

We didn't have RF-4Es either.

We only had F-4B, F-4N, F-4J, F-4S and three flavors of RF-4B.

If you only want to have a Light Gull Gray over White aircraft, the Japanese operated the F-4E, as the F-4EJ, with the USN paint scheme for a number of years when they first got them.

You could build it as a What If in USN or USMC markings,,,,,,,,,,or as an Aircraft Gray USAF aircraft,,,,,in addition to all of the other USAF color schemes.

The one major difference between all of the USN variants and the F-4E was that the nose was different and we didn't get the gun.

So this stuff I'm using is bondo. I can thin this with laquer thinner and brush it on!?? Holycrap I gotta try that..........as for the rest, I don't know. What's the difference between an F-4E and an RF-4E?

Note: Glazing or filler putties for automotive use can usually be thinned with lacquer thinner and brushed on to fill a seam. The Bondo brand can be found in auto parts stores as well as retail stores in the automotive department. 3M makes an acrylic glazing putty that is also easy to use and it sands easily and it takes primer well. The problem with the 3 M brand is that it comes in a large tube and an average modeler could not use it in a lifetime. Sarge, did the Navy or Marines fly F4 echos. I know the Marines flew RF 4 Es, but I have never seen an F4E in Navy or Marine markings.  

gimme the link to some pictures!! I just realized this thing has Air Force decals! I'll have to get some Navy or Marine decals from somewhere!  ; )

Looks good Sarge...I just finished my first Phantom as well. I did it for the Vietnam Group Build running right now.

Wings & intakes.......

That was a good tip, Eric. I used it on the wing roots of my A-7 build...haven't sanded it yet, but I ripped the tape off and it's a nice, clean straight joint to process.......thanks.

They rotate. There should be a tiny gap in between them and the fuselage. If you plan on posing them other than neutral, technically you'd have to have the u shaped pivot cover posed at the same angle also, which is hard to do cause Hasegawa molds this piece with the fuselage on both the 48 and 72 scale kit.

Putty up to my neck here......going slow...taking my time.....do the stabilizer fins rotate fore and aft or are they fixed.....

roger that. ty

Yes. Although the pic isn't a straight on shot, but it's close enough on my screen

More putty work.....

Do I have a good angle on the stabilizer fins??

Ugh.....why can't I delete a bad post.....see below

Sure, now you tell me.......heheheheh........I'm being more cognizant of the fuel dump but I'll be making a new pitoh tube.....

I read a review of a Phantom model the other day, and the guy said that if someone like Quickboost would release 1/72 Fuel Dumps that they wouldn't be able to keep them in stock.

I was nodding my head as I read that, and had the same reaction to Straycat's post.

One thing that helps as of now,,,,,,,take those parts off yourself, before they go "PINGGG" into the parts warp, then you can just add them back later, at the end of the build. It sounds "wrong", but, at least you are in control when (not if) one of them comes off.

Rex