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Posted by USMC6094 on Tuesday, November 24, 2015 11:38 AM

A warning on the decals, those new Revell decals are a BEAR to get to snuggle down, that is if the ones on my 48th CH-53D are any indication, Solvaset wont even put a dent in them.

 

Just a heads up, your Twins looking good so far

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Posted by Toshi on Monday, October 5, 2015 5:18 AM

7474

Toshi, great effort as usual. I'm amazed at how fast you can turn out nice looking models. I'm still not done with either of my 2 models since getting back into this a few months ago. 

Put another shrimp on the barbie

 

Thank you sir, I think I have way more time than you do sir!  LOL!  I thank you for the read and reply, I enjoy them very much.

Toshi

 

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Posted by Toshi on Monday, October 5, 2015 5:15 AM

allan

What is that thing in the middle?  Seems to start the offensive on adversaries even before the shooting starts. Lol.

 

Ive stayed with 1/72 since the 80s. Considered shifting to 1/48 a number of times but have always stayed with the scale. It'll grow on you. Makes for easy storage of built up kits too.

 

 

LOL!  Yes, it's a radome.  Radar technology was still in it's infancy especially in night fighters.  Hence such a large radar enclosure.  Till this day most radar is in the nose cone or the front of the air craft.

Mrs. Toshi asked about that as well!  LOL!

Toshi

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Posted by allan on Monday, October 5, 2015 1:12 AM

What is that thing in the middle?  Seems to start the offensive on adversaries even before the shooting starts. Lol.

 

Ive stayed with 1/72 since the 80s. Considered shifting to 1/48 a number of times but have always stayed with the scale. It'll grow on you. Makes for easy storage of built up kits too.

 

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Posted by Toshi on Sunday, October 4, 2015 9:25 PM

richs26

 

 
Toshi

 

 
patrick206

Hi, Toshi

The twin '51 really looks like one of the more questionable designs the U.S. ever came up with, to me at least. While at first glance it may seem like an easy adaptation of the P-51, after a careful look it's obvious it would take a major effort to produce the twin version. I suspect there is actually very little of the original remaining, a major engineering and production change. The twin was NOT simply a bolt two P-51's together and go fly it effort, I'll bet it was quite a challenge.

I'm looking forward to seeing this one completed, bet it will be a beauty. Thanks for the post.

Patrick 

 

 

 

 

Your not alone on that fact, I've researched some info in regards to the Twin Mustang and am shocked at it's lack luster performance as well as the Frankenstein assembly needed to get the Twin Mustang into the air.

 

Just as an example, the drop tanks would not assemble properly, they had to rig a P-51 drop tank to fly missions requiring longer runs.  Well, nothing is perfect!  Still, it is a unique aircraft in the annals of flight history and has a place now in my collection even at 1:72.  LOL!

Patrick206, thank you for your support as well as the read and write, I really enjoy our discussions.

Toshi

 

 

 

Actually the reason for its lack of performance lay with the Air Force brass as jets were the new thing and they did not want to put anymore money into them.  They were designed as fighter escort for B-29's, and were designed to use Packard Merlins like the P-51's, but the brass didn't want to pay anymore royalties to Rolls-Royce.  The first 20 were given Merlins, and designated as B models, and used as trainers.  The rest were given Allison V-1710's and the  performance sucked.  The trainers were faster than the actual service aircraft.  The round-the-world flight was done by a B model which is in the USAF Museum.  FQ-377 was the very last one in use by the AF at Ladd Field (Fort Wainwright) Alaska.  It was scrapped in 1953 at Elmendorf AFB, Alaska.  The F and G refugees from Korea were winterized as H models and sent to Alaska to buzz Army troops on exercises, and to bomb river icejams during Breakup (ah, springtime in Alaska for the lower 49'ers). Correction: not round-the-world flight but NY to Hawaii, I believe.

 

Thank you for the reiteration, I always look forward to new and interesting related information.  Thank you also for the read and reply.

Toshi

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Posted by 7474 on Saturday, October 3, 2015 6:46 PM

Toshi, great effort as usual. I'm amazed at how fast you can turn out nice looking models. I'm still not done with either of my 2 models since getting back into this a few months ago. 

Put another shrimp on the barbie

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Posted by richs26 on Saturday, October 3, 2015 6:07 PM

Toshi

 

 
patrick206

Hi, Toshi

The twin '51 really looks like one of the more questionable designs the U.S. ever came up with, to me at least. While at first glance it may seem like an easy adaptation of the P-51, after a careful look it's obvious it would take a major effort to produce the twin version. I suspect there is actually very little of the original remaining, a major engineering and production change. The twin was NOT simply a bolt two P-51's together and go fly it effort, I'll bet it was quite a challenge.

I'm looking forward to seeing this one completed, bet it will be a beauty. Thanks for the post.

Patrick 

 

 

 

 

Your not alone on that fact, I've researched some info in regards to the Twin Mustang and am shocked at it's lack luster performance as well as the Frankenstein assembly needed to get the Twin Mustang into the air.

 

Just as an example, the drop tanks would not assemble properly, they had to rig a P-51 drop tank to fly missions requiring longer runs.  Well, nothing is perfect!  Still, it is a unique aircraft in the annals of flight history and has a place now in my collection even at 1:72.  LOL!

Patrick206, thank you for your support as well as the read and write, I really enjoy our discussions.

Toshi

 

Actually the reason for its lack of performance lay with the Air Force brass as jets were the new thing and they did not want to put anymore money into them.  They were designed as fighter escort for B-29's, and were designed to use Packard Merlins like the P-51's, but the brass didn't want to pay anymore royalties to Rolls-Royce.  The first 20 were given Merlins, and designated as B models, and used as trainers.  The rest were given Allison V-1710's and the  performance sucked.  The trainers were faster than the actual service aircraft.  The round-the-world flight was done by a B model which is in the USAF Museum.  FQ-377 was the very last one in use by the AF at Ladd Field (Fort Wainwright) Alaska.  It was scrapped in 1953 at Elmendorf AFB, Alaska.  The F and G refugees from Korea were winterized as H models and sent to Alaska to buzz Army troops on exercises, and to bomb river icejams during Breakup (ah, springtime in Alaska for the lower 49'ers). Correction: not round-the-world flight but NY to Hawaii, I believe.

WIP:  Monogram 1/72 B-26 (Snaptite) as 73rd BS B-26, 40-1408, torpedo bomber attempt on Ryujo

Monogram 1/72 B-26 (Snaptite) as 22nd BG B-26, 7-Mile Drome, New Guinea

Minicraft 1/72 B-24D as LB-30, AL-613, "Tough Boy", 28th Composite Group

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Posted by Toshi on Saturday, October 3, 2015 3:38 PM

BrandonK

IT looks real nice there Toshi. I've seen this kit many many times at the store and I could have sworn it was a 1/48 scale. If it is I'll pick one up. My eyes and periodically shaky fingers just won't allow me to do 1/72 kits. You are doing a fine job on the kit.

BK

 

I did not realize that it was 1:72 until I opened the box and Mrs. Toshi pointed out the size of the kit.  According to GMorrison, the 1:48 does not assemble well and that this 1:72 Monogram Twin Mustang goes together like as is it were a Tamiya.  I must concur, it did not need any putty and one small area needed to be lightly sanded.

Thank you sir for the compliments, I try to do my best.  I want to thank you for your support in my builds and for the read and reply, I so enjoy our discussions.  I look forward to it!

Toshi

 

P.S. I too cannot see any detail nor have such dexterity.  Mrs. Toshi occasionally helps me at times.

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Posted by Toshi on Saturday, October 3, 2015 3:32 PM

patrick206

Hi, Toshi

The twin '51 really looks like one of the more questionable designs the U.S. ever came up with, to me at least. While at first glance it may seem like an easy adaptation of the P-51, after a careful look it's obvious it would take a major effort to produce the twin version. I suspect there is actually very little of the original remaining, a major engineering and production change. The twin was NOT simply a bolt two P-51's together and go fly it effort, I'll bet it was quite a challenge.

I'm looking forward to seeing this one completed, bet it will be a beauty. Thanks for the post.

Patrick 

 

 

Your not alone on that fact, I've researched some info in regards to the Twin Mustang and am shocked at it's lack luster performance as well as the Frankenstein assembly needed to get the Twin Mustang into the air.

Just as an example, the drop tanks would not assemble properly, they had to rig a P-51 drop tank to fly missions requiring longer runs.  Well, nothing is perfect!  Still, it is a unique aircraft in the annals of flight history and has a place now in my collection even at 1:72.  LOL!

Patrick206, thank you for your support as well as the read and write, I really enjoy our discussions.

Toshi

On The Bench: Revell 1/48 B-25 Mitchell

 

Married to the most caring, loving, understanding, and beautiful wife in the world.  Mrs. Toshi

 

 

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Posted by BrandonK on Saturday, October 3, 2015 2:30 PM

IT looks real nice there Toshi. I've seen this kit many many times at the store and I could have sworn it was a 1/48 scale. If it is I'll pick one up. My eyes and periodically shaky fingers just won't allow me to do 1/72 kits. You are doing a fine job on the kit.

BK

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Posted by patrick206 on Saturday, October 3, 2015 12:40 PM

Hi, Toshi

The twin '51 really looks like one of the more questionable designs the U.S. ever came up with, to me at least. While at first glance it may seem like an easy adaptation of the P-51, after a careful look it's obvious it would take a major effort to produce the twin version. I suspect there is actually very little of the original remaining, a major engineering and production change. The twin was NOT simply a bolt two P-51's together and go fly it effort, I'll bet it was quite a challenge.

I'm looking forward to seeing this one completed, bet it will be a beauty. Thanks for the post.

Patrick 

 

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Posted by Toshi on Saturday, October 3, 2015 10:20 AM

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Posted by Toshi on Saturday, October 3, 2015 10:17 AM

My daughter turns 21 tomorrow, 25 years ago I retired from playing jazz to raise a family.  A job that payed nothing yet continues to this day.  May I add it's a job that was or is the most satisfying of all jobs in the world.  A Parent or a Father in my case.

During my time as a retired musician I was a Executive Chef and a Master Sushi Chef trained by the student of the personal Sushi Chef of the Emprorer of Japan.  Wow, that's a lot of words!  LOL!!!  In the end, that's all that was, it's not the title nor the theme of what makes you, it's the Who You Are concept that means the most.

She has requested for her birthday, she has a wake from 1:00pm to 4:00pm then a Semi Pro Soccer match to play until 7:00pm, and then it's back to my house for none other then what I detest making most!  SUSHI!  I don't hate the fact of making sushi, it's the size of the kitchen that I hate preparing in, it's just way too small.  I'll do it, it's her wish and what father can deny their little girl such a simple wish?

Now onto small, tis my humble opinion that I don't enjoy making models at 1:72.  Not that I hate it, I just can't see any detail nor there of even with my magnifyer head set with LED's.  Most disturbing is trying to hold onto the pieces.  Yes, I can do PE with no problem, I was unprepared for this is what I should be saying.  That's the most grievous of all things to do in any thing, unpreparedness!

So far I have my base coat down and after it dries I can spray my clear gloss and add my decals.  Until that point, please view my progress thus far.

 

Toshi

 

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Posted by Toshi on Saturday, October 3, 2015 9:45 AM

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Posted by Devil Dawg on Friday, October 2, 2015 10:53 PM

Bish
Nice work on the gun bays. I take it there are 3 more in each of the outer wings.
 

Nope, Bish, the six .50s in the center wing were all it needed. That much firpower concentrated in that small of a space really tore things up.

Gary Mason

Devil Dawg

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Posted by ikar01 on Friday, October 2, 2015 10:14 PM

When that kit first came out it had the markings for the 68th F.I.S. and was a good little kit.  I have one standing by for when I find markings for the 5th F.I.S.

Here's a couple shots of one they had at the museum at Lackland way back when I was last there for a police course.

 

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Posted by Toshi on Friday, October 2, 2015 6:48 PM

modelcrazy

 

 
GMorrison
The bad fit model is the 1/48 Modelcraft one. This one is a beaut- goes together like a Tamiya kit.

 

Good to know, I have beed scared off from doing a twin stang. I'll have to check into one after all.

 

So far, no issues or concerns.  I have yet to use putty and there is minimal sanding needed.

Toshi

On The Bench: Revell 1/48 B-25 Mitchell

 

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Posted by Toshi on Friday, October 2, 2015 6:46 PM

[quote user="plasticjunkie"]

Toshi

Our evening started out with taking Mrs. Toshi out to dinner at Outback Steakhouse.  We both dined on some really delicious well prepared Prime Rib.  

Toshi

I love eating there, specially their steaks!  Nothing like a delicious Blooming Onion with that fantabulous sauce to free up the cholesterol count!Indifferent

 

That's my favorite part of the meal, the blooming onion!  LOL!

Toshi

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Friday, October 2, 2015 3:04 PM

[quote user="Toshi"]

Our evening started out with taking Mrs. Toshi out to dinner at Outback Steakhouse.  We both dined on some really delicious well prepared Prime Rib.  

Toshi

I love eating there, specially their steaks!  Nothing like a delicious Blooming Onion with that fantabulous sauce to free up the cholesterol count!Indifferent

 GIFMaker.org_jy_Ayj_O

 

 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Friday, October 2, 2015 2:22 PM

GMorrison
The bad fit model is the 1/48 Modelcraft one. This one is a beaut- goes together like a Tamiya kit.

Good to know, I have beed scared off from doing a twin stang. I'll have to check into one after all.

Steve

Building a kit from your stash is like cutting a head off a Hydra, two more take it's place.

 

 

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Posted by BlackSheepTwoOneFour on Friday, October 2, 2015 2:21 PM

Did that kit 2 years ago. In fact, I did one years ago in my youth years as well so chalk that twice I've done this kit. LOL!. A fun build with no fit issues at all. It now sits in a collegue's office at my work place. (I gave it to him to show my appreciation for the help he's given me.)

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Posted by Bish on Friday, October 2, 2015 2:17 PM
Nice work on the gun bays. I take it there are 3 more in each of the outer wings.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by Bish on Friday, October 2, 2015 2:15 PM

Toshi
 
Bish

Nice subject, should be fun to watch. Good to see you going for a proper scale as well. Wink

 

 

 

Yes, I didn't realize 1/72 was so small.

 

Toshi

 

Small,no, just well formed Big Smile

You soon get used to it, it doesn't seem small to me after all these years. Even building something like a 109 which fits nicely in one hand sems perfectly normal. Its just down to what your used to.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by GMorrison on Friday, October 2, 2015 2:12 PM

The bad fit model is the 1/48 Modelcraft one.

This one is a beaut- goes together like a Tamiya kit.

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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Posted by Toshi on Friday, October 2, 2015 2:07 PM

More progress,

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Posted by Toshi on Friday, October 2, 2015 2:04 PM

Bish

Nice subject, should be fun to watch. Good to see you going for a proper scale as well. Wink

 

Yes, I didn't realize 1/72 was so small.

Toshi

On The Bench: Revell 1/48 B-25 Mitchell

 

Married to the most caring, loving, understanding, and beautiful wife in the world.  Mrs. Toshi

 

 

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Posted by Toshi on Friday, October 2, 2015 11:52 AM

roger_wilco

I picked up one of these a few months ago at Michael's,so I'll be following your build with great interest.I read an article once in Air Classics about the F-82's service in the Korean War.They were a bear to keep maintained and not the most popular aircraft with the ground crews.

 

Oh wow, that's an interesting fact as I've never knew about the maintenance of the twin Mustang.

Toshi

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Posted by roger_wilco on Friday, October 2, 2015 11:41 AM

I picked up one of these a few months ago at Michael's,so I'll be following your build with great interest.I read an article once in Air Classics about the F-82's service in the Korean War.They were a bear to keep maintained and not the most popular aircraft with the ground crews.

"Build what YOU want, the way YOU want, and above all have fun!" - RIP Modeler Al. 

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Posted by Bish on Friday, October 2, 2015 11:40 AM

Nice subject, should be fun to watch. Good to see you going for a proper scale as well. Wink

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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